Standard of living is going down, via cost of living crisis, not being able to pollute like we did in the past, and billionaires taking all the productivity increases. People don't understand why, they can't accept the situation, so they get angry, find an outgroup to blame it on, which the right says they'll fix by getting rid of the outgroup.
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Wealth and power.
Unscrupulous rich people benefit from the far right, so it is to their advantage to amplify it in media and technology.
There is real and legitimate discontent and disillusionment with the political mainstream, and they're steering those people towards the far right by feeding the public lies that are plausible on the surface and provide an easy target for blame.
They're supported by opportunic charlatans who can get rich by being the mouthpiece.
Do you think that the boost has more to do with the fact that the general political mainstream is collapsing (i.e. perceived as useless) across multiple nations all at once? I mean, we’ve had wealthy businessmen pretty much all throughout history, so is this like a ‘trigger event’, so to speak?
I think the change is that today’s ultra-rich don’t act the same way the rich of the past did.
The “robber-barons” of the early 20th century were phenomenally rich and powerful, and they built schools, libraries, parks, and other public goods with a small fraction of their wealth because they understood that they had at least some tiny obligation to give back to the society that provided the conditions under which they could get so wealthy.
Today’s rich are actively preaching against the concept of empathy, and resisting any notion that they owe anyone anything. They are convinced that even a single dollar of their fortunes going to anything other than their own personal aggrandizement is a deeply offensive idea. And they are so willing to resist doing anything positive for the world that they spend enormous amounts of money to create propaganda networks to convince others that they don’t owe anyone a single cent of their fortunes. They buy ad campaigns to convince people that taxing them is bad, spending in some cases more money than the taxes would cost them… all because they firmly believe no one but themselves should see even the tiniest benefit from their money.
they understood that they had at least some tiny obligation to give back to the society that provided the conditions under which they could get so wealthy.
I feel like this is revisionism to some extent which inadvertently whitewashes their legacies; the real reason is they actually feared worker uprisings and did what they could to placate the population. Something not necessary now
The legitimate reasons for discontentment have existed for a long time, but I suspect that powerful people have found a way to capitalize on it en masse. They're taking the kernel of truth (that the mainstream political options aren't being effective) and directing people to solutions that benefit themselves.
Idk if it happening internationally is just collateral damage, if they're trying to operate internationally, or other powerful people elsewhere have just learned from the previous successes.
So no, I don't think there is a trigger event, so much as reaching a critical mass. They've come into the means of control (digital media making distribution of ideas so cheap, making manipulation of media exposure so easy), and a public who is so used to being lied to and mislead that they can't identify trustworthy sources (FUD), and they're striking while the iron is hot.
Ah, I see. So it’s more like a ‘tipping point’ that’s built up over a long time?
Fear is the fuel.
Scared people are selfish, and selfishness is the only common denominator in all right wing politics. They don't have great visions of how to run a society. All they want is to stop someone else from having "their" piece of the imaginary pie.
It takes a lot more positive outlook to have the trust to build a society where people take care of someone they don't know directly.
not just the billionaires, but also state actors that want to see europe or britain or america or 'the west' in general, implode into chaos and disarray.
Until actual power takes root. Ask how all those wealthy people who helped putin, stalin, mao, hitler into power did in the end.
Their wealth makes them powerful, that power makes them feel invincible. Until somone gains enough politial power to burry them.
See how quckly elon musk bent to trump when they started their little spat. Money is powerful, but the politically powerful still control the police and military.
Dictatorships hustorically are all supported by the wealthy. The wealthy think they can control the dictator. Then the dictator turns on them because he no longer needs their support.
I'm extremely curious, what "wealthy people" put the Bolsheviks and CPC into power? Russian workers and peasants, and the Chinese peasantry, are "wealthy?"
You seem to be conflating democracy with capitalism, and history with a world of imagination.

Which actors from the State are you referring to?

It's definitely what I want to see happening also, from the State of Washington.👍📉🔥
It is not capitalism itself, but rather representative systems of government that sooner or later lead to corrupt oligarchies.
Even socialist states have corrupt elites, so it doesn’t depend solely on the system of government.
But yes, with regard to our situation: Democratic capitalism is coming to an end, because democratic means cannot be used to exploit the population any faster or more intensely (though in a system based on infinite growth, this is a necessity)—which is why things are now becoming undemocratic once again.
Occupy Wallstreet.
People like to joke that it did nothing, but it terrified the corporate masters of the world. They have been trying to teach us uppity poors a lesson ever since.
Propaganda. The elite get people fighting a culture war instead of seeing what’s really happening: the continued funneling of wealth to the few.
Propaganda powered by algorithmic feeds on social media.
For example, my grandfather legitimately believes things are better under Trump. The economy is doing great, gas prices are a blip, and Trump is hard at work cleaning up all the corruption in the US government.
He gets all his news from Facebook, and this is what it tells him.
- Rising costs / decline in incomes
- Failing infrastructure
- Decline in education
- Repression of history
- Brainwash through social media
- Nostalgia
Social media promoting far right content
People have drastically less free time than 30+ years ago. That free time was crucial for forming community, emotional fulfillment, and pursuing personal goals. Deprived of these things leaves people vulnerable to manipulation and mutually exclusive thinking.
Conservatism is a political movement masquerading as philosophical/principled. It appeals to peoples good intentions, validates their preconceptions, defines their identity in negative terms, and binds their self worth to their status within their group.
The current system no longer works for an average citizen. Current and future generations can't expect a higher standard of living than our parents had while the environment gets destroyed all around us. This disillusionment with current ruling class leads people to support anti-establishment candidates which tend to be far right populists. It's still possible for socialists to provide a valid alternative but in many countries the left is too fragmented and/or too focused on the wrong issues.
Left wing populism will rise out of the broken dreams of right wing populism, then maybe we can do democracy again??
Maybe. More likely current system will not survive this and we will end up with some sort of neo-monarchies where powerful leaders control most of the countries (Putin, Xi, Trump... we're already pretty close) working hand in hand with corporations and billionaires operating as independent states and people either working for them, starving or both.
I have the US tech companies bailing out the US debt bubble, and seizing control of the country on my bingo card!
Have you seen Incorporated: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4118466/ ?
Shows really well what it might look like. Great show, such a shame it got cancelled.
Not yet but its almost TV season over here, so I have added it to my list! Im a big sci-fi fan.
Have you seen anything interesting recently (that's not Start Wars or Marvel)? I'm always looking for good SciFi.
I did Apple TV last winter and I gotta say, they might be the king of sci-fi shows. But i haven't watched TV since there was snow on the ground. Pluribus, foundation, and The silo are the three I'm really excited to get a new season to watch. All the sci-fi shows i watched on there were genuinely enjoyable. I had no idea they were doing sci-fi so it felt like finding a treasure trove. Totally worth dropping the 1-2 months of subscription fees and binge watching.
It started with the War on Terror of the 2000s destabilizing the Middle East and leading to an influx of refugees into Europe. White supremacists naturally freaked out when they saw more than one brown person, so this started an anti-immigrant sentiment which only continued to build throughout the years. Couple that with funding from rich white supremacists and propaganda from foreign agents like Steve Bannon, and here we are.
And the internet, it went mainstream in the 2000s, in everyone's pockets by the mid 2010s. Where a village would have a couple of idiots, maybe a racist, maybe a pedo. They were all relatively isolated from others like them in the world. On the internet they banded together, like everyone else but without a society to tell them no, the impressionable and idiots started following the wrong people. Add in a rich sociopath on mainstream media and the foreign interference, and here we are
Left: why are bogans voting for Pauline Hanson
Left: well they're evil white supremacists
Meanwhile Mohammed tells me we're letting the wrong kind of people into this country (Indians).
Left: Only white people can be racist!
Until you accept that people everywhere hate mass immigration you have no fucking chance.
"US tech giants allying with European far-right to strip back EU rules", Jan 14 2026
Billionaires trying to distract people from their ever increasing wealth and the powerful people in positions of influence. Who owns the vast majority of media, at least in the global west?
It's been seen so many times through history if the status quo is challenged find a scape goat. Every possible example can be seen, different religions, different skin colour, different political beliefs, different gender, different abilities, different sexuality, etc. As soon as power/money is threatened a different focus of hatred is found.
Billionaires. They fund right-wring advocates, because tearing down establishment concepts like "rule of law", "industrial standards", "equality", and so forth is very useful to the wealthy.
I think it was the palantir guy I saw a video recently of some like industry convention from 10-15 years ago where he was saying "we can't win at the polls. That's why I like technology, because if we can control Technology, we can control everything" (or something like that, I don't remember verbatim). So yea, the Billionaires have always loved the far-right ideals. Once they have all the money, it's the only way they can get more power, and therefore feel more important. "Big Tech" is in a position to control so much of the information flow directly into people's brains that they can control the unwashed masses to go to the poll and vote against their own interests.
Nobody said it and I'm sure it's not the only source, but Russia has funded at least Germany's main right wing party. I think I read about them funding others as well.
Plus they try to make their own sabotage look like left wing extremism. And they employ bot farms to spread hate online.
This has done a great job of destabilising basically every western country.
Honestly, i genuinely believe that social media algorithms are being manipulated by billionaires to push an agenda that saves them from tax or accountability.I am centre left and try to mould fb and insta feeds by specifically flagging content i dislike or dont agree with and it keeps coming back. Some of the insane 'stop the boats' shit i see here in the uk from creators and bots i have never heard of or interacted with in anyway is very, very suspicious.
Agreed. It's not an accident or an attempt to drive engagement. It is a targeted propaganda and influencing campaign. That's the exact reason I am on Fediverse.
A couple years ago I cut way back on YouTube because it kept trying to steer me into right-wing bullshit. Example: I like construction and I have dreamed about building a cabin. I watched a few videos about timber frame structures. A couple about hand-made buildings. All of a sudden, I noticed that the creator of one video was building a cabin with a holstered gun. Weird, I thought - until I checked the new list of recommended videos. I had fallen into the alt-right prepper wasteland, just because I think nailing boards is fun.
That's a question for the ages for sure. I'm worried it's going to get quite a bit worse before it gets better.
As far as I can tell, there are multiple ongoing components to what's going on.
There is definitely some Russia-driven agitprop going on, with the apparent aim of weakening the West through division. But on its own I think it's not a sufficient explanation, for two reasons. The same research showed that Russia is also pushing left-aligned agitprop points to increase division. And Russia was not similarly involved in the 1930's, which nevertheless saw a somewhat similar trajectory.
But it's still a factor either way of course.
The main force, I think, is the collapse of capitalism. That capitalism is its own self-destruction mechanism has been observed for centuries; it's kind of one of the main takeaways from Das Kapital. With the ceaseless rise of wealth capture by the ruling classes, discontent rises correspondingly among the general population, and the beige centrist neoliberals that tend to occupy power seats in most democracies keep onboarding more and more far right talking points in an apparent effort to keep this discontent from getting an actual left wing government elected: drawing false equivalency between left and far right policies, forming coalitions with the far right to prevent even a mildly left wing party from forming a government, etc.
The latter seems particularly driven by the flow of donor money from the wealthy elites.
But it also looks like in many countries, the national media are disproportionately captured by said wealthy elite, who also increasingly push the same far right societal framing for the same core reason.
Historically speaking, this private capture of wealth and power does not stop on its own, and it goes to some pretty bad places before it gets better. It's bleak as hell, but we can take hope, I think, from another historical observation: it always gets better, eventually.
Till then, take care of each other, y'all.
Chuds noticing things getting worse, and their leader offering solutions and someone to blame. It's always been like that. Happened in Germany in the 1920s, happened in the US in the 2010s.
Now that it's accelerating, it's gonna be interesting to see which conclusions are drawn after their chosen ones have been in charge almost the entire time.
Ever since Neoliberalism became dominat amongst mainstream "center" large parties in the West:
- Inequality has explode.
- Social Mobility has collapsed.
- The super-wealthy who are behind all of it because they paid the mainstream politicians to reduce their taxes, to have the State stop controlling, shapping or in any way participating in even the provision of life's essentials (most notably housing), to enact policies that support big asset owners all paid for with austerity for those who income mainly comes from their work and to remove any and all oversight over money making activities, have been heavilly funding political parties that blame the consequences for the many (especially those at the lowest end of the wealth ladder) of all that on foreigners ("immigrants", "foreign interference") as well as News companies to parrot such ideas.
I mean, the first two things could also have made the (non-center, non-mainstream) leftwing grow, but unlike the far-right the people who have most of the wealth aren't funding parties fighting for more equality or buying newspapers to have them spreading the idea that we should tax the rich more to pay for universal healthcare and high quality education for free or that the democratically elected state should have greater oversight over and participation in the provision of life's essentials such as housing, so the left only ever advances amongst the well-informed and politically aware, not amongst whose beliefs come tabloid headlines, privatelly owned "news" channels and loudmouth "influencers" who make money from ragebaiting and reinforcing those views.
There are a few little leftwing victories here and there (the recent win of Die Linke in Berlin's municipal elections, Mamdani's election as Mayor of New York and so on), but almost all of the money and pretty much all the propaganda that passes for News nowadays is pushing rightwings views so of which being pretty much Fascist views.
The mechanisms by which civilizations grow, stagnate, collapse and recover have fascinated people since at least the ancient Greek philosophers.
Civilizations initially grow because they make life better for the average citizen. Cooperation leads to more reliable food and more babies survive to make more babies.
After some time some stressors on the civilization lead to widespread conflict. Historically this have been linked mostly to famine and plagues. Economic instability can also lead to a civilizations segmentation and conflict. The "fall of civilizations" is historically the segmentation of large civilizations into smaller entities as people rally around a local leader who promises them the "right" things.
So what's happening right now - a shit ton of stressors.
Birth rates are negative in most industrialized nations. This indicates that on a widespread basis, globally people do not feel that they have the resources to raise kids.
Climate change is triggering serious fears of famine. This is why denying the obvious heat increases is so popular. "Oh no, it's not the hottest and dryest summer on record. Our crops are hunky doey."
Plagues - Well COVID happened and triggered a lot of widespread fear. That disease is still seen as a curse from the supernatural for most humans instead of a biological inevitability was made crystal clear.
Wars - stealing someone else's resources looks pretty good when you fear there is not enough resources to go around. "It's too hot in the U.S. to grow crops, let's invade Canada and steal Greenland!"
So humans are doing what they have always done when stressed. Look for someone who looks like a "strong leader" who can make things right in their world again.
Economic despair.
We all know something is deeply wrong with the world, but it's easier to see and blame brown people than to see all the ways that we are being squeezed by the Epstein class.
In a US context, but perhaps the dynamic is the same around the world, is that Republicans blame immigrants and the Democrats, defenders of the status quo, blame nobody.
This is a serious electoral handicap, when your side is prevented from effective world building, when you are not allowed to identify enemies.
The dynamic is quite different around the world.
For one, most other Western democracies have multi-party systems where the choice is not restricted to just moderate conservatives and fascists.
Secondly, many of these democracies where the popularity of fascists has surged are doing much better than the US economically.
By which metric is the economy better than the US's?
Overall the US economy has been fairly strong since the mid 2010's, with the exception of inflation and a Covid related unemployment blip. And a chronic shortage of housing that has been brewing for decades.
Of course, the products of that economy haven't been distributed equitably so perhaps that's what you mean?
By which metric is the economy better than the US’s?
By compound broad economic metrics (IHDI, etc.), as well as certain specific metrics like life expectancy, poverty and violent crime rates, income inequality, corruption, and so on.
True but I don't really see those as merely economic metrics, with the exception of income inequality. They're affected by many things, not all of which are part of the economy directly.
Billionaires.
What I don’t get though, is we’ve had millionaires and billionaires all throughout history, so what’s triggered this specific boost?
It's finally gotten to a point where wealth and power are concentrated into a sufficiently small enough group of people they can:
- Collectively agree to all do the same thing
- All benefit from their cooperative action
- Afford to bribe as many officials as it takes to have complete control of any political system of their choosing
- Wield enough of the world's resources that everyone else has no choice but to follow suit
Millionaires didn't have enough clout to control the media or didn't need to, billionaires do and do need to.
Without wanting to be controversial….
Society tends to swing back and forth wildly, attempting to find communality. Gay people were openly oppressed, then accepted, then granted legal equality in marriage, then some adoption agency starts giving gay couples a boost up the waiting list - and somebody completely loses their head and the reverse process begins.
We went from housewife who knew her place (/s) to “believe all women” in less than 3 generations. Some people can’t cope with the change of pace or seeming over-correction.
Again, immigration: they should stay over there. We actually do need some medical staff and shop keepers. Wow, their food is nice. He was born and grew-up here and is one of us. I look like I’m the foreigner in my own high street. Send them all back.
If society goes too far, or too quickly, one way then there tends to be a knee jerk reaction back there other way.
Conservatism has always been popular, because a lot of people like the status quo. WHEREVER THAT MAY BE AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME. The fact that conservative values change over time is immaterial.
it's funny how last year everyone was blaming Americans for being "dumb white racist shitbags" while Americans were asking this same question.
welcome to the club assholes.
want to know what's driving fascist ideologies?
instability. poor governance. fear.
so the question becomes, who benefits the most when world leading countries begin to fall apart?
- Russia
- China
- Israel
- Corporate Interests / Banks
out of those four, who has the track record to run psyops at a worldwide scale. Who has a successful history of buying politicians? Who has the best ability to manipulate the world population without them knowing?
Lots of stuff but in general bad economic conditions and lots of propaganda to point fingers. It amazes me how badly right wing goverments want immigrants out, yet without them they wouldn't have a fraction of the success they had. If anything, they will employ policies that make the divisions more stark and immigrants more predisposed to not being able to adapt.
Gotta blame foreigners for all the pain successive governments of very much local politicians bought by very much local fatcats, as well as the fatcats themselves, have inflicted on the majority of people.
By the way, this applies not just to the "immigrants" scapegoating but also to the "foreign interference" one.
At least for the richer, developer countries, the locals have way, WAY, WAY more power which they used over decades to shape the country to be what it now than foreigners.
Inequality and decades of painting anything left as evil communism.
Plus liberals would rather hand the reins to fascists than socialists.
Victim blaming is also something rapists do.
The Left is for sure partly responsible.
There's a lot of things the 'left' will not address or even admit is a problem. There's a stubbornness to them that is undoing them.
On top of them not being actually on the left... And apparently hating the actual left to the point of happily destroying themselves.
What are you actually trying to say? It's extremely vague and hard to get at your point.
So this is why people don't like your comment:
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It's vague. You're not actually taking a specific stance on anything; you're just vaguely complaining about "things" that the left will not address, and "stubbornness", so that someone can fill in the gaps with something it would be reasonable to complain about.
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It has the appearance of someone conflating "Leftism" with "The Democratic Party of the United States." That's generally bad form.
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The context of this post is a worldwide rise in right-wing views, so the above point is even worse than normal. Whatever issue you're thinking of (which we don't know, because you're not actually taking a position, per the first point), it's possible it isn't associated with Leftism outside of the US at all.
No one can tell you that you're wrong if you never actually make a specific claim, right?
There's an actual German party called The Left. You capitalized it, yet I still don't think you're referring to them. You're just dumb and barely literate. You go on to out it in quotes. ??? If you are referring to the party, they won locally and are on the rise. They're offering something the center doesn't, an off-road to an unpopular war and sanctions that's only hurt them and helped American billionaires. They're offering something the right doesn't, Mamdani-like reforms in Berlin.
Democracy works when you offer what your electorate need, not what your donor demand.
Billionaires
Billionaires buy up assets at inflated prices, over paying on land, houses, yatchs, stocks, antiques, businesses, they do this to avoid paying income taxes.
Instead they borrow against newly aquired assets. "Of course I'm good for this massive bank loan, I just bought a Monet, a mansion, and three profitable companies I'm going to liquidate!"
So they're jacking up prices, which contributes massively to inflation, whilst avoiding giving back in the form of taxes. They avoid taxes like the plague so everyone else has to cover their tax burden to society.
They're a burden to society. Rather than draw an income and pay income taxes, they'll buy another media company or lobbying company and just entrench their power, and influence. Just on the face of their economic behavior - they're corrupting and destroying society.
People feel betrayed because they can't feel the benefits of economic growth. Jobs aren't safe anymore. But funding a family still requires a stable income. Humans love having social and economic security. If a government refuses to make that happen, they will vote for whoever promises to punish the old government - even if no fix for any of the actual problems is proposed.
If you are a politician, the solution is disgustingly trivial: stop taking bribes and do your job. Governments are infrastructure. They are meant to support the people governed by them.
So far the solution implemented by the big old parties was to double down on making everyone but the Epstein class poorer until voter morale improves.
Here come the antiestablishment liberals in the US, just like the antiestablishment conservatives who called others RINOs. They will never be against the establishment, just better liars. Seeing Kamala enter the stage again is disheartening. Israel buys both sides.
I think it's a combination of stupid people, misinformation, disinformation, and social media
The world is complex. Humans aren't equipped to deal with that level of complexity. Also the amount of information we are bombarded with is far beyond what we have evolved to deal with.
The right offers a simple solution.
There is one group, "the other", that is the root cause of all your problems. Get rid of them and everything will be swanky again.
This plays on one of our earliest and most ingrained senses of survival. As a social tribal species, we are very good at noticing things that are "like us" and "normal". "Different" and "new" was a potential threat. It literally kept our species alive against far more powerful predators and competition from like species back we we huddled together against the dark night.
Unfortunately we're just wired that way. It takes knowledge, wisdom and a healthy dose of curiosity/wonder to overcome that. Why do you think one of the first goals of the right is to dismantle education?
Sounds so very 1984
“GOLDSTEIN! GOLDSTEIN!!!” They cried out
Putin! Putin!

An infamous historic empire's bloodthirsty nature is no news to me, but the Anglo American Empire has reached its end.

Russia has more natural resources than any other nation, ESPECIALLY per capita. That's all you need to know about the West's adversarial nature toward them.
Europe and America have never been satisfied without stealing what's not theirs to feed this veracious appetite of the capitalist rulers.

I agree that democracy doesn't work without an informed and educated electorate. That's why college should be free, like it is IN GERMANY.
It's highly possible that at least some Germans voted for AFD because they're the only major party offering an end to an unpopular war and sanctions that has destroyed the German economy and climate goals.
I'd probably just not vote at all, but I could understand how some might.
The problem is billionaires controlling policy, but not so much AFD's policies.
But they're fascists, so they will probably also support Ukraine once they get what they wanted. Power. Same as Trump's empty promises on ending wars.
It takes familiarity. It is likely why urban areas tend to be more liberal than spread out rural areas.
Also to add that the people with money and power control the game, they have total control over the news papers/channels/websites, the algorithms on social media, everything.
They push their agenda and whatever they need to keep us distracted, arguing, missing the actual things that matter and disillusioned to our ability to change the direction we are heading.
Power will always be in the interest of maintaining power.
There is more than enough money and food to go around, there is the ability to throw our best and smartest at solving our problems and people as a whole generally are good and want to get along.
The cost of people with the mental sickness that allows them to disregard everybody else to continue endlessly sucking up every bit of power and money is immeasurable.
The only real solution is to provide as much friction as possible. Push back when you can, be a voice of change or support somebody else who is that voice for you, dont be afraid to question your own beliefs, do what you can to help and be kind to your fellow human.
People are dissatisfied with the economy and the far-right says, "This is happening because of immigrants," the left says, correctly, "This is happening because of billionaires," while liberals just say, "This isn't happening, everything is fine." The far right's narrative beats the liberal one because it at least acknowledges that people are struggling, even if the reasons and solutions it offers are totally wrong. Unless the economic conditions can be reversed, and the far-right are the only ones people see offering an alternative, the growth of the far-right is inevitable.
As for the left's (correct) narrative that the billionaires are the problem, it has the advantage of actually being true and making sense, but it has the disadvantage of threatening monied interests, which are going to try their best to subvert and silence it. Billionaires will generally prefer to promote the far-right because it doesn't threaten their interests.
However, the left's narrative is the only thing that can really counter the right's narrative. You can't keep insisting there's no problem as things get worse and worse and expect it to work. The left is weak right now and faces an uphill battle, but it's a battle where there's a possibility of winning, while the liberals are ultimately doomed.
pieces of shit.
and elon musk.
but i repeat myself
It's money. Of you're ever unsure it's money. It's always tax breaks for the rich and hating minorities. It's always money. All the time.
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