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[–] 118 points 1 month ago (28 children)

So we're down to just the one Amendment now?

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  • [–] 61 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    not sure which one you're referring to. can't be the second, they executed Alex Pretti on the spot for legally carrying a pistol. after disarming him. which is also a violation of the 5th: "nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"

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  • [+] -12 points 1 month ago (21 children)

    This is not a violation of the 1st amendment, and we should be careful about claiming as such. What we know about this President is that he loves to play the Reverse Uno card and take all the horrible shit he does and turning around and accusing others of it.

    If I were President I would absolutely ban the likes of Fox News and Newsmax from The White House. There's nothing to be gained from engaging with them. You're just giving them ammunition to use in their disinformation campaigns.

    The 1st amendment does not guarantee anyone the right to ask The President questions.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

    Reprisals against media by denying access to official press conferences because you don't like their accurate reporting is in fact against the first amendment, "Artyom"

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  • [+] -9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

    Please cite a source that says The White House has to allow every Tom Dick and Jane "reporter" in existence, "CrimeIsLegalNow"

    E: lots of downvotes, zero sources. 🤷

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    [Edit to cater to sensibilities]

    Since we're not allowed to call people by their names, let me hash out a couple of points that, in my humblest perspective, should be mandatory knowledge for humanity in general. First one is don't talk about things you know nothing about, or if it that proves challenging to memorize, perhaps a well-known aphorism: "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt". The second lesson is that adults are responsible for their own education. People who proudly flaunt their ignorance and make it other's job to educated them produce the same revulsion as a pig gleefully wallowing in its excrement. It's dragging the rest of humanity down, it's a burden.

    Now as for the specific context here, on if banning specific journalists from the White House is a first amendment violation: most definitely yes in this case.

    The first aspect to it is what's known as the principle of "Viewpoint Discrimination".

    This is very well established by the Supreme Court: when the government suppresses or punishes a message just because it disagrees with the speaker's point of view, it crosses the line into viewpoint discrimination. Extending this to the White House, from the moment you have a "public" event with an accreditation process, and you then proceed to ban access because of the "unfavourable coverage" (and this is a direct quote), this is clear cut viewpoint discrimination.

    The second aspect is the argument that White House press conferences are akin to designated public forums.

    While the President is not legally required to hold press conferences or call on specific reporters, if a public forum is established for the press corps, the administration cannot selectively expel certain journalists as a tool for censorship or intimidation.

    The third aspect is existing case law and past rulings:

    Sherrill v. Knight (1977): The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the White House cannot deny press credentials arbitrarily. It established that the White House must have clear, published, and consistent standards for granting or denying access, and must provide due process.

    CNN v. Trump (2018): When the White House revoked Jim Acosta's "hard pass" following a... rough press conference, CNN sued. A federal judge granted a temporary restraining order forcing the administration to restore his access, citing Fifth Amendment due process violations. Unfortunately the judge pussied out of also explicitly flagging First Amendment free speech rights on that one, but the White House folded and reinstated the credentials. Ultimately, the most important aspect here is that this is blatantly unacceptable behaviour.

    If you do feel it is justified, apply a litmus test: would it still be acceptable if it was done by [insert someone you hate here]. For example, would it have been acceptable for Biden to ban a Fox reporter because of bad coverage?

    The final conclusion is that this is not even something that the courts should have to rule on: people should be out in the streets shouting for their freedom and against the massive assault they're under. Rights are something that need to be fought over, as they're never granted freely, and relying on the Courts alone to uphold them will fail.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    It's fun to stumble upon this argument subthread a day later.

    Once you get to the end of the multiple-screen, several-paragraph smackdown comment with multiple actual citations, the crickets are SO much louder!

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  • [+] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    If you do feel it is justified, apply a litmus test: would it still be acceptable if it was done by [insert someone you hate here].

    Woah, woah. Slow down there pardner. You're trying to teach leopard sensitivity training to someone who can't perceive a leopard until their face is halfway chewed off.

    Shame on you. The empathy impaired are people too, and they can't be held accountable to awareness of rights that are not directly benefitting them at the moment.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The empathy impaired are people too

    Unlike the clear and present reasons why journalists must be allowed to question the powerful, you're gonna have to provide evidence for this one.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    The 1st amendment does not guarantee anyone the right to ask The President questions.

    yet imagine if biden or obama had tried.... just imagine

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    That's a fun whataboutism that maybe one day we'll be able entertain.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    [Edit to cater to sensibilities]

    Is telling the difference between a thought exercise and whataboutism that hard for you?

    Let me fill in that gap: a thought exercise is when you change a scenario so that the core idea can be explored under different circumstances, to see if it still holds up. It's a way of deepening our understanding.

    Whataboutism is when you point to wrongdoing by someone else to make the current accusation seem invalid.

    If you can't tell the two apart, shut up. If you can tell the two apart and you're trying to subvert conversations with malicious intents, then we're here to call you out.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Your favorite president rapes children dude get real

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  • [+] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    LOL that sounds like a whole lot of mental gymnastics, but let me spare you the burden of insulting me for no reason in the future and block you. Goodbye!

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  • [–] 72 points 1 month ago

    The gigantic baby is having a tantrum again.

    As always, the conservatives are projecting, since they love to call everyone else a snowflake, and yet, they made the world's biggest snowflake the god-emperor of their party.

    Conservatives cannot deal with even the least bit of criticism.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Instead of a swear jar, have a When He Dies jar; every time you read a headline that is fucking goddamn infuriating why the fuck isn’t anyone doing anything about this meddlesome fucking priest Jesus fucking Christ and so many goddamn enablers I FUCKING HATE ALL OF T—… anyways, whenever you feel that after reading a headline, put $20 in a high yield savings account, and when he’s fucking gone, you’ll have two cent’s worth because OF THE GODDAMN INFLATION FUCK THIS MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    I did a similar thing except instead of every time it was just once and instead of $20 it was $60 and instead of a savings account it was a bottle of champagne, and now I just get to think of the day when I'll finally get to pop it

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  • [–] 50 points 1 month ago
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    https://apnews.com/article/ap-lawsuit-trump-administration-officials-0352075501b779b8b187667f3427e0e8

    So, AP had been in a lawsuit since Feb 2025 over their reporters being blocked. This is madness. A clearly violation of their constitutional rights. Rights that affect their ability to report on this administration. And the courts don't seem to care at all.

    Of course the Trump will block others. There are no consequences for this guy.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    CNN is conservative. What a farce!

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago

    Ahhh. So Politico is more than likely a trustworthy news source. Good to know.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Maybe all news outlets should stop putting him on TV, stop attending his press conferences, and stop feeding his ego overall.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    they wont. they are addicted to him, because he brings in ratings and viewship like nothing else.

    Its why he got elected both times, because he gets insane levels of coverage, more than all other candidates combined. because media has a vested financial interest in his existence in politics.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    its also why they tried desperately to manufacture controversy under biden, because biden was a boring president that wasnt committing 20 atrocities a day, so people werent constantly watching the news to see what the fresh horrors were, cause there were none.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago

    I am the snowflake now! 🫲🍊🫱

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  • [–] [S] 53 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Did he just manage to give an air of legitimacy to cnn/msnow somehow?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Even r/Conservative thinks this is dumb. And they have a Charlie Kirk logo

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    And even when they're disagreeing with Dear Leader they're still fucking wrong and stupid.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    Fine, all that they really need to run is one headline every day: "Dementia Grandpa Says Some Stupid Shit." It's evergreen.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    So, they must be doing at least halfway decent reporting then.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago*

    Good, there's no better indicator of weakness and intellectual disability than demanding to live in a hug box, free from criticism.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    MAYBE if we Kiss his Ass MORE he'll Let us BACK in?

    -CNN!

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    What a tiny dicked fuck.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY, RIGHT HERE ON THIS TWITTER CLONE MADE EXCLUSIVELY TO HOUSE MY MENTAL ILLNESS!!!!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    Every day that ends in a Y, the stupid PoS geriatric moron pedophile says another stupid thing...

    I can't wait for a different type of day to come. Don't even have to say what type.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Good. They’re just as responsible for his position as he is. Maybe they’ll be forced to open the emergency can of whoop-ass. Although I doubt it. They’ll just run stories on influencers for two years.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    They should all get together and agree to not cover anything about Trump for two weeks, see how he reacts then.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    My theory is that if nodoby says his name for 24h he will fade away.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Oh, he definitely believes that if people aren't talking about him he is dead. That's why he doesn't even care if it's positive or negative, no press is bad press for him (he learned that well from Roy Cohn).

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    He wouldn't notice. I doubt he even watched fox news. He's gone mentally.

    His staff and cabinet are behind the ban. The only time Trump hears bad news is when a reporter asks him to comment on the bad news. Now he'll hear nothing but sunshine and rainbows; he's completely isolated from anything that's real.

    Things are going to nose dive quick.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago*

    Take note, a litmus test for media doing at least some decent journalism.

    These outlets should be proud, honestly.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Surprised it took this long.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I can only guess they must be ready to release a scandalous tidbit from the trump/epstein files so he reverted back to his "Look!! Over there!!" management style.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    I thought he had banned just about everyone 2 or 3 times already?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    All of these outlets have been e dlessly charitable to both him and Israel to a degree of complicity. Their CEOs and primetime "journalists" would be tried for treason and crimes against humanity in rational times.

    But they show even the itsy bitsy tienies amount of stray from Trump, and this is how their, and let's be real, almost unyielding loyalty has bee rewarded.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    *until bought by the Ellisons

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    What's the latest on that case with the AP? Did they ever get access back or is it stuck in the courts somewhere getting slow walked for eternity?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    AP is neutral in the overton window sense... They are calmly complicit and won't rock the boat. The news wire is subscribed to by every local broadcast news station and the few corrupt small town papers left. Guess what type of folk own those outlets? Without a fairness doctrine or any enforced regulation, we're toast.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Normale greatest-democracy-in-the-world+behaviour

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    At least we don't have that arrogant laughing brown lady.

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