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[–] 91 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Conservatives are EXTREMELY good at indoctrination. The kids will unfortunatley probably never question their racist father's racist remarks.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It’s not really that so much as Indians of high caste (which his wife is) basically consider themselves ‘white’. So as far as they’re concerned he’s talking about other people, not them.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Casteism and racism are functionally equivalent. Both are based on how / where you're born rather than who you are.

    For centuries, people of European descent saw themselves as the global upper caste because of their skin tone and heritage.

    It's taken time to undo that regressive thinking, and even though there are some white people who continue to think themselves superior today, most are not racist.

    Similarly there are people of Indian upper caste heritage that do not support caste discrimination / supremacy.

    I can't speak for Usha Vance herself but her mom, in her capacity as provost of the University of California San Diego's Sixth College, created a pilot course on race, ethnicity and gender in biology and medicine, served on the university's biological sciences diversity committee, and wrote proudly of her school's commitment to diversity.

    I strongly doubt that she sees herself as "white". She also does not strike me as a woman that would raise a family with racist or casteist values. Where Usha went wrong is anyone's guess (probably at some point in her education in the US / meeting Vance) but her heritage likely has little to do with it if her mom was championing these values openly.

    Both casteism and racism must be abolished.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    just look trumps children, ERIC or JR wanted to be independent(join the services) in thier youths, but trump threatened them he will cut them out of his WEALTH they do not behave. his daughters, DIL are all on board with trump.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    the german far right leader (female) is married to an indian sri lankan woman and when asked about how that relates to her plans of deporting brown people she said her wife 'does not count because she was adopted by a white family in switzerland'

    i mean, they also run a populist platform aimed at poor people with a libertarian program to wipe out social assistance though, so why am i even suprised by the hypocrisy?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Indian Sri Lankan . Also, she is openly pride.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago*

    fair enough, corrected!

    also, who is openly pride, alice or her wife? apparently they also have some kids and are in a civil partnership, but she does oppose same sex marriage (because 'tradition' of course?). i always have that mental gymnastics meme in my head when i read about her or hear her speak... x)

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  • [–] 30 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Vance needs to spend the rest of his life in prison

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    [–] 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Maybe it's a decade of creeping fascism gmthats made America dirtier.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Vance is one of those freaky shapeshifters whose positions and principles contort anew as necessary to stay adjacent to power.

    His kids are likely not just traumatized by him but terrified of the kind of monster he is.

    They hate and fear him already.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    "A multi ethnic America is dirty!" he said about a country that exists from the colonisation and immigration of a hundred different ethnicities.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Maybe he thinks that the whites in America should go back to England???!

    Because the one true original ethnicity in America are Native-Indians and everybody else who came afterwards, including his own ancestors, were the ones making it multi-ethnic.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Pretty sure there were also Germans, and Poles, and French, and Swedish, and Dutch, and Spanish, and Portuguese, and Italians, and quite a lot of Irish and one particular point in history.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Married to a brown woman, but the backdrop behind him is almost all white, young, able-bodied, thin women.

    Uh huh. Yeah. Tell us how much you actually love your wife, you couchfucking pressure sore of a human.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Most Indians in American politics are Republicans. Those repubs think they are white. I feel Usha and her kids don't see the brown when they look in the mirror. Sad.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    Many certainly have been but there have been several on the left also. Arguably the most prominent on the left today in American politics is also of Indian heritage - ZM.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    Most Indians hate Mamdani. Cause most are right wingers.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Most Indians are right wingers based on what data? According to Carnegie’s 2024 Indian American Attitudes Survey (IAAS) 60% of Indian Americans intended to vote for Harris and 30% for Trump. There is no granular post election data at this demographic level, only for Asians in general, but this is skewed towards democrat more than almost any other minority group, most of which were closer to a 50-50 split this election.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    In their country, not according to US politics. Most Indians in India support Modi.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Modi won 36% of the popular vote. Trump won 49.8% in comparison.

    If we look at population data as a whole, 17% of Indians voted for Modi and 23% of Americans voted for Trump.

    Living in America, I don't feel that most Americans support Trump. I'm not sure how we can say most Indians support Modi when an even lower percentage of the population voted for him.

    Modi's approval ratings are higher

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    funny that there hasnt been many INdian related hate compared to other POC. yea doge definitely increased it, but it hasnt stuck for long, part of it might be that many "industries depend on indians to survive.

    its because indians coming from a HIgher caste in indian culture, they believe they are above the lower caste. so when they see whiteness as epitome of wealth and power, thats how they identify it as. and many indians from these castes are often very wealthy. "almost all not so rich " ones i know are more progressive.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    It's much simpler buddy. Indians back home love Modi, and they see Modi in Trump. That's also because how during first term Modi was trying to warm upto Trump, and go as far as endorsing him, something no other Indian leader had done before. And Modi is a fascist. Hence they love Trump

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I don't know how his wife accepts what he says

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago

    Hating your parents and making your kids hate themselves and you - is that what family values means to Republicans?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    His kids will grow up and learn to hate him. Just like Musk's and Trump's do them.

    I also predict when he loses in '28, his wife will leave him, then run for Congress as a Democrat a couple of years later. It will be a very messy and public divorce.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago

    He said it's become dirtier and poorer since Trump's first term, which is actually true.

    It's just that it also got dirtier and poorer during trump's first term too.

    trump broke a bunch of shit, and Biden didn't fix it. Now Trump's breaking more shit and we're gonna keep getting dirtier and poorer.

    Has nothing to do with with ethnic makeup tho.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    That's jumping to conclusions, that they don't hate him already.

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  • Self-hating brown people is what that makes. Whatever your parents rage against that you see in yourself fuels all the mental health problems as an adult.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    Yeah, like when the Irish came over to America right Vance?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    His kids will have enough money that they won't need to grow up, they can be entitled self indulgent teens their whole lives.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    I am waiting for the Right to say that saying the N Word isn't racist.

    They already believe that (they gave a woman millions of dollars for calling a child that)

    I just want them to admit it.

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    I mean, I get it.

    It's why you don't buy a white couch. It shows all the stains. You want a darker colored couch to hide dirt, orange juice spills, that kind of thing.

    Only rich people have money for a white couch. Because if you spill some wine on it, and the stain won't come out, they can afford to replace it, no questions asked.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Sociopaths only ever care about themselves and for them everybody else - even their children - are only worth as much as the utility they have for the sociopath.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    Diaspora Indians are, somehow, white Europeans. Also, some confused Latinos. They'll learn eventually that Western imperialism cannot be separated from white supremacy, requiring the dehumanisation of others as a foundation, and they'll be a main target sooner or later before white infighting takes place ("are Italians even white???"/"fucking Krauts!").

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Diaspora Indians already know this. There's a ton of racism directed at Indians today, it's not for off from the post 9/11 period, but arguably less physically violent. There is no brown person in America that thinks themselves white and, even if they did, American society has a way of constantly reminding them that they are not.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    There is no brown person in America that thinks themselves white

    My two cousins are half-Thai but thanks to the genetic dice they both look vaguely central american. They got abused quite a bit growing up both for being asian and for being "mexican". This taught them empathy for others who ... lol just kidding. They're both trump-loving white supremacists who rant against immigrants despite their own mother being an immigrant from Thailand.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Couchfucker

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Thomas Jefferson sold his kids to slavery and we still put him on our currency. vance is the fucking same kind of scum.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

    Presentism at work. Jefferson died around 200 years ago

    Edit: I stand corrected.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    i can't imagine any point in history where it would be acceptable to sell your own children into slavery. i think even in ancient greece, you wouldn't sell your own child as a slave.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    People did this all of the time, not sure about the Greeks specifically (but I would assume they did also).

    If you were dead broke, you married off one of your kids... if you couldn't do that, you sold them.

    People still do this TODAY.

    Imagine if you couldn't feed your own children. Wouldn't selling them be preferable to watching them waste away until their inevitable demise?

    (not that Jefferson did it because he was starving, he just needed some walkin' around money)

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    [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I would like this dude to come to queens in NYC, the most ethnically diverse area in the world. The actually when there to study genetics with DNA samples. They'll give him a NY welcome for racists.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Honestly it’s the pedophilia they need to worry about

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    What? America is already one of the dirtiest countries In ve seen. People just throw shit out of their cars. I'd hope that maybe some diversity could help clean that shit hole up a little.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    The Ronnie Reagan pipeline

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Pretty sure they already do

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    What the fuck did he just say about my son!? Racist piece of shit! Wait, Fuck him, I'm German/Norwegian. Am I dirty too? What ethnicities is he? Fucking turd!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    First daddy came for...

    (Yes couch, I know, valid, but chill out - this is a Holocaust reference. Let it be...)

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    You can also see that homogenic societies like Japan are way cleaner.

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