Legitimately though wtf happened? Before covid I was the weird one for being online all the time, now I'm weird for wanting to have actual conversations now and everyone else is glued to the screen.
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I was hanging out with this late gen Y crowd, and literally everyone had their phones out and were messaging other people in the friend group who weren't currently hanging out. Instead of hanging out, they were messaging others who weren't and might later. Then when those people stop by, they'd start messaging other people they're not with. Now and then they'd look up to say "so and so is doing so and so" to someone, like give an update from the person that wasn't there.
Kinda agree. We fucked society up with phones. I both admire that we can hold such a powerful computer and carry it in our pocket, and hate that it's normalized.
Someone pointed out how there's no phones in Star Trek and it's probably deliberate. I get it.
Data: Captain Picard, we are being hailed!
Picard: don't put video on
Data: but they want to video chat sir
Picard: text them "what's up"
There is an episode where a new game is brought on board. It's really enjoyable, and once people start playing, they don't want to stop. Soon, the whole crew is addicted. It turns out the creators of the game are using it for mind control.
Seems like the perfect metaphor for modern cellphone/app usage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)
I dont think that in the 60s-90s anyone would have necessarily anticipated the existence of smartphones as they are now. Rather than it being a “deliberate” choice not to have them in the show. Its just not a futuristic idea of communication that existed at the time. Theres not smartphones in The Jetsons either. Earlier ideas of what the future would be like were a lot more utopian than the dystopian hellscape induced by smartphones and social media. Their various ideas of the future were a modification of the way people actually lived then, which was simultaneously less connected but also more interpersonally social. They dreamed of a more connected future, but not one where that level of connection would rip apart established social fabrics
There's a lot of newer Trek shows that seem to have stayed away from smartphones too, though.
There's not a whole lot of entertainment value in having a bunch of people sitting in silence texting other people off screen with the occasional loud video being played to nobody. Even if they are in space.
Well yeah, but they are based on the universe that was invented earlier. It would be pretty jarring for them to have made a change like that
They have communicators and iPads.
My friend group was really late to adopt smart phones. I was always the nerdy one, so i had a cracked iphone as soon as it was available. Years later, tgey still rocked the dumb phone. None of us cared about social media at all. The smartphones slowely dripped in, because that was the only thing that you can get.
Boy that broke our whole group. A thing we would always do is hang out, listen to music, talked about movies, whatever. I did this for a long time my the last guy without a smartphone. The day he got an iphone, that was gone. We did it one or two more times and then we kinda drifted apart. Instead of talking about movies and music it was: let me look this up... I saw this thing on (whatever) This was before tiktok, i can't imagine what younger people go through.
While I agree it got worse, I remember some people doing exactly that when I was in high school in the 2000s - sms were enough to constantly distract them form what was going on in front of them
Glad to be an older millennial. Was in my late 20’s when smart phones were normalized
Don’t forget scrolling while driving.
Dude I see this way too often. I say there's a 50% chance I look over and someone is on their phone
One of my coworkers was laughing the other day about how he's always on tik tok while he's driving.
He didn't get the reaction he was looking for, because I was just like "what the fuck is wrong with you!?!"
I was driving with another coworker the next shift and despite having his airpod in one ear he was in the passenger seat scrolling through tik tok with his phone on speaker. Every 5 seconds it was a new audio clip. After about 2 minutes I was starting to contemplate driving into the side of a bridge and ending it all.
Listening to someone scrolling TikTok reels on their phone with the speaker on is a unique form of psychological torture
My youngest is always calling out my music as "this is a Tiktok song" ... child, that song is almost older than I am.
Algorithmic flattening will be the death of me. Everything is homogenized and made palatable for the masses, either that or engorged to extremes to capture the last neuron that still has an attention span.
I just don't like how much video is vertical now.
It'd be marginally less irritating if we'd stuck with 4:3 aspect ratio I suppose.
Yeah, I remember everyone was making fun of people recording videos vertically 20 years ago, now somehow it's the norm.
I often get told to take pictures vertically. Sure, let's get more sky in this picture. Its not like we are at the beach with a nice view on the horizon or anything. I live by the coast in Hampshire, the Isle of Wight is pretty much always in the background of any picture taken by the beach. At least it is when visibility is more than a couple of km.
The irony of saying this on 4chan.
I can't stand the unrealistic body image and behaviors that TikTok creates
Stares at vore comics for 40 hours every week
Stares at vore comics for 40 hours every week
Then anonn goes to church for communion
4chan: the place that makes you unable to like things unironically, because honesty is cringe, and every normie is a secret hypocrite.
Imagine living through the age when the normies ate everything that was fun about being on the internet. Can't say i blame them.
I'd settle for getting rid of 'tiktok speak'.
'So my brother uses a lot of dr*gs and I'm worried he's going to buy a pewpew and unalive himself'
That kind of brainrot. It's infecting the rest of the Internet.
Oh its bad but even worse since "unalived" was still too spicy so its now things like "alt F4 life" or some shit. I like the creativity, but the censorship levels make me want to scream.
Alt F4 life has some creativity I can appreciate. Until everyone repeats it far too much. Tiktok just seems like the same few things repeated endlessly. I hear it on my partners phone. Oh, this 5 second soundtrack again that I have heard 2000 times before. How original... And then again when the video loops and repeats.
It's not just the censorship on TikTok. They can do whatever the fuck they want with their shitty ass platform.
What bugs me is the people who adopt that EVERYWHERE. Like hey guys we're on the grown-up Internet now we can stop talking like 9 year olds.
Tiktok bullshit is banned on my pihole. Stupid fucking name too, "tiktok". Spy central brain rot.
Ahh fortunately I'm old and date other people who don't use tiktok either.
Somehow 4chan sounds like a healthier option.
A solar flare would solve lots of things besides TikTok.
It would cause many problems too, but I'm not sure they're worse than the problems we have now.
A catastrophic one would result in probably 80% of the population dying in a year. Starvation, exposure, lack of medicines, etc.
You judge if that’s worse.
Humans are like this in times of unprecedented abundance. They will not become more reasonable when times become hard.
And neither will I. Good luck everyone.
Its one of the filters, of the great filter.
These people have NPC-ified themselves, and they basically have the AI behavior routines of zombies, just ones that can do a slightly more convincing emulation of socializing.
Brain dead by way of vanity and consumerism.
Sorry, turns out that a wide swath of humanity is too dumb to recognize what this stuff does to them, that our technological abilities have evolved way, way faster than our biology has.
We never should have made computers this user friendly. Because, when, you do that, it lowers the barrier of entry/usage down so low that you end up programming the less aware users, moreso than the software.
Not to mention that TikTok, Twitter/X and Facebook are all owned and controlled by delusional narcissist freak anti-social Epstein class people, who openly view normies as dumb cattle who exist to be distracted and surveilled and groomed and conned.
So give them a simulation of socializing, a simulation of culture, a simulation of even rebelling against that culture... so long as they control the black box algorithm, the algo that knows them better than they know themself, the algo that harvests them via either subscription payments or data extraction.
They figured out how to induce drug addiction behavior, without selling an actual drug... they hacked the human brain, via a much more advanced version of basically networked, interactive television.
The Wachowski's were truly visionaries ahead of their time.
We're all a bunch of brainless pods hooked into the apparatus of the Epstein class. They're puppet-masters controlling literally everything now...because they are controlling the flow and storage of information and drip-feeding us what they want us to have and nothing more.
They are gatekeeping reality from us.
Not just social media...legacy media is just as bad...if not worse. Remember, Sinclair and Nexstar own the vast majority of local news networks. In some networks (i.e. Providence, RI), there is a legit duopoly -- Nexstar owning WPRI (CBS Affiliate), and Sinclair owning WJAR (NBC Afiliate) and now WLNE (ABC Affiliate).
They didn't just buy the rights to air The Price is Right when they bought those stations. They bought control over the news staff, directly. People that have built up generations of trust with the community. Maybe even interacted directly with you or someone in your family at a public event.
Hell, the meteorologist from one of these stations did the commencement speech for my highschool graduation.
There's like, two or three conglomerates that handle the majority of terrestrial radio stations, too. And ditto for print media...at least the "big local" papers. I wouldn't be surprised if the local city papers are seeing the same fate.
Who controls the past now controls the future, who controls the present now controls the past.
Now testify.
"The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media.”
“Some members of the media use their platforms to push their own personal bias.”
“This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.”

That... that was 8 years ago, now.
... some of us did not need to be told twice to WAKE UP, but most... well, they preferred the blue pill.
These people have NPC-ified themselves
Fascist talk
people use other short form content platforms besides tiktok
My boyfriend defaults to Instagram reels if he's unstimulated for approximately 3 seconds...
If it helps, I once years ago spent easily 12-16 hours a day on TikTok but don't watch any these days. I'm actually quite intolerant towards short videos and don't like even watch things people try to show me. People can change, they just gotta notice how harmful it is to their brains. Embrace the boredom.
You mad? probably should break up with them then. There is always another mirage over the next horizon.
Vine was a thing but died and then there was not much until tiktok became popular
What I fear is when TikTok’s (or YouTube, Facebook, whatever) shaping of public opinion becomes more dramatic and blatant.
For instance, let’s say a leader connected to the Tiktok’s owner didn’t like their political opponent? What if they just deprioritized them from the algorithm, so their name is basically unknown?
Or what if a certain scandal was countered by boosting opposition videos?
If this sounds like I’m describing extant scenarios, well… yes.
Censorship is no longer hard. It’s statistical. Truth doesn’t matter if it doesn’t show up in feeds, and this is more scary to me than any mental effects Tiktok may be having.
Anon has become the boomer.
I hated TikTok since day1. For me it was just a worse Vine, especially the moment people tried to use it for more serious shit.
This is worse than Facebook and Twitter times
It's not. It's exactly the same.
The only difference is that you're getting older, so you're experiencing it more viscerally than when you were ten years younger and didn't know better
Uhh people spend like 8 hours on average on their phones now, that was most definitely not the case when I was growing up.
People used to spend more time on the couch watching broadcast TV!
Bring it back!
If people brought their tv to every event and outing ever I'd have the same criticism
And television isn't tailored to each individual with content engineered to make sure they don't look away for as long as possible
i was playing console games for 10 hours a day in the 80s and 90s
Functionally very different things. Those old games weren't programmed to feed you a never-ending stream of content that's designed to provoke ever more extreme reactions from you to keep you engaged with the feed. Did they provoke extreme reactions? Maybe, but that's more because they needed to be hard enough that you couldn't finish them during a rental period and you had to buy them.
>here's a new mental illness term
4CHDESS = 4chan derangement and estrangement syndromes (there's a whole group of them)
Imagine them watching seven samurai, with 20 minutes of chanting on an empty road at the start.
The exact same as been said about facebook, video games, TV, and cinema even before.
I bet the same will still be said of the next thing that get popular among young people...
Outrage against a legitimate problem with nostalgia for times the problem still existed in other forms and some ableism sprinkled in for spice. Delicious.
It's not ableist to point out the epidemic of 'TherapySpeak' on TikTok.
They didn't actually make any ableist insults.
It is a legitimate problem that TikTok is a prime vector for spreading and normalizing medical misinformation regarding mental health and psychology terms and concepts.
Can't forget the misogyny!

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