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[–] 43 points 1 month ago (1 child)

Legitimately though wtf happened? Before covid I was the weird one for being online all the time, now I'm weird for wanting to have actual conversations now and everyone else is glued to the screen.

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  • [–] 121 points 1 month ago* (17 children)

    I was hanging out with this late gen Y crowd, and literally everyone had their phones out and were messaging other people in the friend group who weren't currently hanging out. Instead of hanging out, they were messaging others who weren't and might later. Then when those people stop by, they'd start messaging other people they're not with. Now and then they'd look up to say "so and so is doing so and so" to someone, like give an update from the person that wasn't there.

    Kinda agree. We fucked society up with phones. I both admire that we can hold such a powerful computer and carry it in our pocket, and hate that it's normalized.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    Someone pointed out how there's no phones in Star Trek and it's probably deliberate. I get it.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    There is an episode where a new game is brought on board. It's really enjoyable, and once people start playing, they don't want to stop. Soon, the whole crew is addicted. It turns out the creators of the game are using it for mind control.

    Seems like the perfect metaphor for modern cellphone/app usage.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    I dont think that in the 60s-90s anyone would have necessarily anticipated the existence of smartphones as they are now. Rather than it being a “deliberate” choice not to have them in the show. Its just not a futuristic idea of communication that existed at the time. Theres not smartphones in The Jetsons either. Earlier ideas of what the future would be like were a lot more utopian than the dystopian hellscape induced by smartphones and social media. Their various ideas of the future were a modification of the way people actually lived then, which was simultaneously less connected but also more interpersonally social. They dreamed of a more connected future, but not one where that level of connection would rip apart established social fabrics

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    There's a lot of newer Trek shows that seem to have stayed away from smartphones too, though.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    There's not a whole lot of entertainment value in having a bunch of people sitting in silence texting other people off screen with the occasional loud video being played to nobody. Even if they are in space.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Ditto for AI. Oh, sure, they played with AI, but always in an embodied holodeck character or an android, never as a disembodied computer program. Imagine a show where every major decision point on the bridge was "do what the computer says."

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago

    My friend group was really late to adopt smart phones. I was always the nerdy one, so i had a cracked iphone as soon as it was available. Years later, tgey still rocked the dumb phone. None of us cared about social media at all. The smartphones slowely dripped in, because that was the only thing that you can get.

    Boy that broke our whole group. A thing we would always do is hang out, listen to music, talked about movies, whatever. I did this for a long time my the last guy without a smartphone. The day he got an iphone, that was gone. We did it one or two more times and then we kinda drifted apart. Instead of talking about movies and music it was: let me look this up... I saw this thing on (whatever) This was before tiktok, i can't imagine what younger people go through.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    While I agree it got worse, I remember some people doing exactly that when I was in high school in the 2000s - sms were enough to constantly distract them form what was going on in front of them

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    [–] 41 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Don’t forget scrolling while driving.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Dude I see this way too often. I say there's a 50% chance I look over and someone is on their phone

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago*

    Tbf, there's a 50% chance I'm in gridlock traffic.

    Everyone could be scrolling their phones on the train or the bus, but that's for poors and city slickers.

    I need to be jerking off to OnlyFans from the driver's seat of a Ford F-Over9000

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    One of my coworkers was laughing the other day about how he's always on tik tok while he's driving.

    He didn't get the reaction he was looking for, because I was just like "what the fuck is wrong with you!?!"

    I was driving with another coworker the next shift and despite having his airpod in one ear he was in the passenger seat scrolling through tik tok with his phone on speaker. Every 5 seconds it was a new audio clip. After about 2 minutes I was starting to contemplate driving into the side of a bridge and ending it all.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Listening to someone scrolling TikTok reels on their phone with the speaker on is a unique form of psychological torture

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  • [–] 36 points 1 month ago

    My youngest is always calling out my music as "this is a Tiktok song" ... child, that song is almost older than I am.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 month ago

    Algorithmic flattening will be the death of me. Everything is homogenized and made palatable for the masses, either that or engorged to extremes to capture the last neuron that still has an attention span.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I just don't like how much video is vertical now.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I remember everyone was making fun of people recording videos vertically 20 years ago, now somehow it's the norm.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I often get told to take pictures vertically. Sure, let's get more sky in this picture. Its not like we are at the beach with a nice view on the horizon or anything. I live by the coast in Hampshire, the Isle of Wight is pretty much always in the background of any picture taken by the beach. At least it is when visibility is more than a couple of km.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    The irony of saying this on 4chan.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    I can't stand the unrealistic body image and behaviors that TikTok creates

    Stares at vore comics for 40 hours every week

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    [–] 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I'd settle for getting rid of 'tiktok speak'.

    'So my brother uses a lot of dr*gs and I'm worried he's going to buy a pewpew and unalive himself'

    That kind of brainrot. It's infecting the rest of the Internet.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Oh its bad but even worse since "unalived" was still too spicy so its now things like "alt F4 life" or some shit. I like the creativity, but the censorship levels make me want to scream.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Alt F4 life has some creativity I can appreciate. Until everyone repeats it far too much. Tiktok just seems like the same few things repeated endlessly. I hear it on my partners phone. Oh, this 5 second soundtrack again that I have heard 2000 times before. How original... And then again when the video loops and repeats.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    It's not just the censorship on TikTok. They can do whatever the fuck they want with their shitty ass platform.

    What bugs me is the people who adopt that EVERYWHERE. Like hey guys we're on the grown-up Internet now we can stop talking like 9 year olds.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    And this was 3 years ago.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Tiktok bullshit is banned on my pihole. Stupid fucking name too, "tiktok". Spy central brain rot.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    Ahh fortunately I'm old and date other people who don't use tiktok either.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    Deeply melodramatic. Humans have always been and will always be annoying

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  • [–] 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Somehow 4chan sounds like a healthier option.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    A solar flare would solve lots of things besides TikTok.

    It would cause many problems too, but I'm not sure they're worse than the problems we have now.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    A catastrophic one would result in probably 80% of the population dying in a year. Starvation, exposure, lack of medicines, etc.

    You judge if that’s worse.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 month ago* (7 children)

    Its one of the filters, of the great filter.

    These people have NPC-ified themselves, and they basically have the AI behavior routines of zombies, just ones that can do a slightly more convincing emulation of socializing.

    Brain dead by way of vanity and consumerism.

    Sorry, turns out that a wide swath of humanity is too dumb to recognize what this stuff does to them, that our technological abilities have evolved way, way faster than our biology has.

    We never should have made computers this user friendly. Because, when, you do that, it lowers the barrier of entry/usage down so low that you end up programming the less aware users, moreso than the software.

    Not to mention that TikTok, Twitter/X and Facebook are all owned and controlled by delusional narcissist freak anti-social Epstein class people, who openly view normies as dumb cattle who exist to be distracted and surveilled and groomed and conned.

    So give them a simulation of socializing, a simulation of culture, a simulation of even rebelling against that culture... so long as they control the black box algorithm, the algo that knows them better than they know themself, the algo that harvests them via either subscription payments or data extraction.

    They figured out how to induce drug addiction behavior, without selling an actual drug... they hacked the human brain, via a much more advanced version of basically networked, interactive television.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    The Wachowski's were truly visionaries ahead of their time.

    We're all a bunch of brainless pods hooked into the apparatus of the Epstein class. They're puppet-masters controlling literally everything now...because they are controlling the flow and storage of information and drip-feeding us what they want us to have and nothing more.

    They are gatekeeping reality from us.

    Not just social media...legacy media is just as bad...if not worse. Remember, Sinclair and Nexstar own the vast majority of local news networks. In some networks (i.e. Providence, RI), there is a legit duopoly -- Nexstar owning WPRI (CBS Affiliate), and Sinclair owning WJAR (NBC Afiliate) and now WLNE (ABC Affiliate).

    They didn't just buy the rights to air The Price is Right when they bought those stations. They bought control over the news staff, directly. People that have built up generations of trust with the community. Maybe even interacted directly with you or someone in your family at a public event.

    Hell, the meteorologist from one of these stations did the commencement speech for my highschool graduation.

    There's like, two or three conglomerates that handle the majority of terrestrial radio stations, too. And ditto for print media...at least the "big local" papers. I wouldn't be surprised if the local city papers are seeing the same fate.

    Who controls the past now controls the future, who controls the present now controls the past.

    Now testify.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    "The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media.”

    “Some members of the media use their platforms to push their own personal bias.”

    “This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.”

    That... that was 8 years ago, now.

    ... some of us did not need to be told twice to WAKE UP, but most... well, they preferred the blue pill.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    These people have NPC-ified themselves

    Fascist talk

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    people use other short form content platforms besides tiktok

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    My boyfriend defaults to Instagram reels if he's unstimulated for approximately 3 seconds...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    If it helps, I once years ago spent easily 12-16 hours a day on TikTok but don't watch any these days. I'm actually quite intolerant towards short videos and don't like even watch things people try to show me. People can change, they just gotta notice how harmful it is to their brains. Embrace the boredom.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    You mad? probably should break up with them then. There is always another mirage over the next horizon.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    I guess some things really must get worse before they get better

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    What I fear is when TikTok’s (or YouTube, Facebook, whatever) shaping of public opinion becomes more dramatic and blatant.

    For instance, let’s say a leader connected to the Tiktok’s owner didn’t like their political opponent? What if they just deprioritized them from the algorithm, so their name is basically unknown?

    Or what if a certain scandal was countered by boosting opposition videos?

    If this sounds like I’m describing extant scenarios, well… yes.

    Censorship is no longer hard. It’s statistical. Truth doesn’t matter if it doesn’t show up in feeds, and this is more scary to me than any mental effects Tiktok may be having.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Anon has become the boomer.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I hated TikTok since day1. For me it was just a worse Vine, especially the moment people tried to use it for more serious shit.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    This is worse than Facebook and Twitter times

    It's not. It's exactly the same.

    The only difference is that you're getting older, so you're experiencing it more viscerally than when you were ten years younger and didn't know better

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Uhh people spend like 8 hours on average on their phones now, that was most definitely not the case when I was growing up.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    People used to spend more time on the couch watching broadcast TV!

    Bring it back!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    If people brought their tv to every event and outing ever I'd have the same criticism

    And television isn't tailored to each individual with content engineered to make sure they don't look away for as long as possible

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    i was playing console games for 10 hours a day in the 80s and 90s

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    Functionally very different things. Those old games weren't programmed to feed you a never-ending stream of content that's designed to provoke ever more extreme reactions from you to keep you engaged with the feed. Did they provoke extreme reactions? Maybe, but that's more because they needed to be hard enough that you couldn't finish them during a rental period and you had to buy them.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    Uhh people spend like 8 hours on average on their phones now

    I would legitimately wish all 8 hours were instead spent trolling some random naked in rust.

    Maybe Real Life™ should just get good?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    >here's a new mental illness term

    4CHDESS = 4chan derangement and estrangement syndromes (there's a whole group of them)

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Honestly, yeah

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Imagine them watching seven samurai, with 20 minutes of chanting on an empty road at the start.

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    The exact same as been said about facebook, video games, TV, and cinema even before.

    I bet the same will still be said of the next thing that get popular among young people...

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    [+] -6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Outrage against a legitimate problem with nostalgia for times the problem still existed in other forms and some ableism sprinkled in for spice. Delicious.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    It's not ableist to point out the epidemic of 'TherapySpeak' on TikTok.

    They didn't actually make any ableist insults.

    It is a legitimate problem that TikTok is a prime vector for spreading and normalizing medical misinformation regarding mental health and psychology terms and concepts.

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