As an atheist, I ask for prayers that the backup's good.

E: Your solidarity has worked. The backup is good and not too old. Note for myself and you - install your OS on a snapshotting filesystem so that live backups are possible.

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[–] 37 points 1 month ago

This needs to be marked NSFT (Not Safe For Techies).

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago

    Note to self, make new backup when I get up in the morning.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (16 children)
  • [–] [S] 23 points 1 month ago (15 children)

    Because on the latest ASRock boards it's damn near impossible to remove their metal heatsink bullshit for installing M2 drives. It's easier to strip naked the drive and use their bullshit. Except when it isn't. 🥹

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    So the heatsink is not needed? Or did you plan on putting it back afterwards??

    I'm so confused.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 month ago

    The motherboard has big, built-in heatsinks on its M2 slots. You install a naked NVMe drive in the M2 slots and the motherboard heatsinks (with thermal pads) hug it from both sides.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    So you're a better engineer than whoever designed that metal heat sink "bullshit".?

    Why would you do this? It makes no sense. Hope you learned something.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Lmao these kinds of comments always crack me up. You speak with confidence from a position of ignorance with a sprinkling of “the engineers know best”.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Odd, I do detect someone speaking with confidence from a position of abject cretinitude.

    Can you guess who it is?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Two things, an ssd and a motherboard, both with heat sinks built in. You can’t use both heat sinks. One of them has to be removed, and OP chose the wrong one based on the incorrect assumption that the heatsink on the ssd was not held on with such a strong adhesive.

    You come in here with essentially “lmao you’re an idiot why would you remove the heatsink? The engineers know what they are doing why would you know better?”

    So if they should remove neither of the heat sinks, since an engineer put them both where they are, they should just throw out the drive?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Re-read their comment. They had to remove THIS heatsink because the ASRock mobo made it too difficult to remove the mobo side heatsink, which is meant to go over naked drives

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago

    Then either buy the right motherboard or the right drive. Peeling things off at random and then lashing out at the engineering is some kind of tistic temper tantrum for the emotionally disregulated.

    Seek therapy.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Not the heatsink in the picture. The motherboard's M2 heatsinks:

    Especially the bottom one. It leaves no space for installing an NVMe with a stock heatsink. To remove it, it requires access to the rear of the board, which now has this big ass metal backplate covering it. So one has to remove the whole backplate to access the screws holding the bottom M2 heatsinks. Only then they can be removed and a factory-heatsinked SSD installed. I thought that would've been more work, and I didn't want to modify a board I have not tested yet that could need to be RMAd if defective.

    The lessons for me are:

    • Always keep a recent system backup
    • Don't remove stock NVMe heatsinks I did not install myself - they could be glued
    • If stuck with such SSDs, mod the motherboard after testing it
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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Dear dummy, please select your item carefully BEFORE purchasing it.

    Duh. Exhausting dealing with people like you.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    LMAO, this SSD was purchased many years ago and was in active use. The previous ASRock board it was used in had the same toolless M2 mechanism but did not have a backplate which made the bottom heatsink easily removable, which I had done and this exact SSD was installed in it. The new board's product page doesn't say anything about a backplate blocking M2 heatsink removal, or a backplate at all. Given the information available I bought the right product.

    Now kindly fuck off.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    You could maybe reflow it in a toaster oven.

    Maybe...

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Yes. This is possible to fix with some skill and some flux.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Maybe

    Bit hard to tell due to the resolution of the image, but it looks like some traces may have come up with the IC.

    Sometimes, pads can still be left behind on the PCB while no longer being connected to the vias underneath them.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago*

    I’ve done this. I don’t remember the retailer but they let me RMA it when I told them their website had recommended the particular SSD and external enclosure combo being bought together but they wouldn’t fit together without first removing that part.

    I will never attempt to do this again. Fucking stupid.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Ah see... The problem here is that the front fell off.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    What am I looking at? That doesn't...oh ... Oh my lord.... Brb going to double check my backups in solidarity

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    A cellphone repair shop can probably save it for not too much expense. They have te right tools.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Thats a good advice, for that to work you just need to remove the solder, reball the memory ic and solder back if there are no broken/ripped pads. If there are any ripped pad then still can be done but you need an expert at microsoldering to rebuild the tracks

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I do see one potentially ripped pad on there (top right). The rest seem like they should be fine.

    Hard to tell with the image quality though. I’d definitely give it a shot regardless, spend a few bucks to save potentially many times more. Especially in this economy.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I dont think thats a ripped pad. Right(middle to botton) side of the chip whatsoever... Those are ripped 100%. You can still see part of the trace too

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    how exactly can you tell? just curious

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Those thingies sticking out are like part of the traces. It can be solder, but that looks very sus and with the brown shade i assume its the back of a trace hehe
    EDIT: and i just noticed there is a fitting mark on the other side. So very very likely ripped traces. And the more i look at it the more i think thats more ripped traces then alive ones haha

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Did you just pry it apart?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    This is a whole new side of the DRAM vs DRAMless SSD debate.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 month ago*

    U know, in my panic before remembering I have a backup, I actually considered trying to power it on like that. Maybe the controller could run DRAMless, I thought. Then I came to my senses that running an SSD with potentially shorted traces in a new board is prolly gonna make a bad situation worse.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Have you tried soldering it back on?

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    Insert "I will never financially recover from this" pic

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Did you film it so you at least have footage for a teardown video?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    That might be fixable with a reball. Hard to say from the picture if the pads are damaged, but they look pretty consistent. So either none are damaged, or they all are.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    This is your OS disk? How would having a snapshotting OS like btrfs have helped in your situation?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Root on Btrfs/ZFS would have ensured I have a root backup from an hour ago. Ext4 (without LVM) means I can only make a backup every now and then when I turn off the machine, boot into alt OS and take an offline copy.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    With the disk effectively fubar how would the snapshot from an hour ago of helped?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago*

    Would've been transferred to the big redundant storage. Whe using ZFS in particular, local snapshots are essentially instant, then ZFS transfers only the missing snapshot delta to the other ZFS storage, delta tends to be very small and therefore fast. Put those thigs together and hourly live full system backups become very practical. I already have this setup for my laptop. Restoring a complete system from backup becomes - ZFS sync from the backup to the new drive, restore the EFI partition, boot from it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    that's nothing a heat gun and some flux cant fix.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Kiwi on a rock

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I'm a little drunk, let that be explanation/excuse here:

    When I was very young, like 3 or 4, in the early 90's, I remember seeing commecials for what I now understand are fake fingernails. It was a commercial that showed a woman grabbing her--to a 4 year old--normal woman's long fingernail, and casually prying it back so that it popped off and hinged back with a sticky yellow goo under it. What the commercial was selling was an acrylic nail that attached to your real nail without messy adhesives, what 4 year old me saw was a woman casually tearing her body apart. To this day I chew my nails to the quick so nothing can get under them, and I'm damn near 40.

    This gave me the same "why the FUCK did you pull on it like that?" feeling as that commercial.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    So the thing on the right is a heat sink and the part that looks like a connector is actually a chip that was ripped off the SSD on the left, correct? That's unfortunate.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    System can always be reinstalled, just backup your data, that's the important part. Can recommend Duplicati for windows and Pika backup for Linux (borg frontend that makes it easy).

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Glad your backup worked. I don't backup my desktop or laptop anymore. Everything important is in Nextcloud or on the NAS, and I have scripts to rebuild a fresh system when needed. I have found that works better for me.

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