Over 90% of those deaths are Americans.

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[–] 96 points 1 month ago (27 children)

Modeling indicates there are more "excess deaths" due to COVID19, roughly 900-1600 per week. See link below.

The best numbers I know of are coming out of https://www.pmc19.com

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  • [–] 62 points 1 month ago (21 children)

    These are insane numbers! Somehow the long covid ones are the ones that scare me the most. An ex colleague of mine got long covid after an infection in 2023-2024 (when covid “was over”). She now has so much brain fog she can’t live independently anymore… scary shit

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  • [–] 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Indeed.... I know somebody who else has it and is just energy starved like crazy. If she goes anywhere she just crashes in the evening and needs 3 days to recover. Doing anything is basically wondering whether its worth it to crash for 2 days afterwards...

    And the research for it has dropped. So its basically an "I hope it passes this month" by the doctors as there's no actual treatment (apparently).

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    i track that website, as well as wastewater surveilance to give me some idea of how careful I need to be, week by week.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    What metrics do you use? Like, what's the line at which you wear a mask?

    I used to go by number of infections per 100,000 but I can't find that anymore and I feel lost.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Question: "infections per 100,000" - with what disease? in what time or spacial frame? Personally and professionally I'm not just concerned with SARS-CoV-2. What disease? What sort of exposures are likely for you? Influenza is not yet on the rise, but likely will be. When it starts up get your vax, you'll likely get about 3 months of protection. If you have immune issues, consider a second flu shot in 3-4 months. Masking, handwashing. Rotavirus sucks, but handwashing takes care of most of the risk. Measles? Get your vax!

    Time and intensity are important. Are you going to be outdoors, with a small distantly space group and/or over a shorter time frame? Is this event/ time with a larger group, lots of heavy breathing (gym, singing, use your imagination), indoors, for a longer period of time?

    Many infectious diseases have post acute syndromes. Consider which of those is worth the risk to your life and those around you. Beyond the acute phase: a comprehensive literature review of long-term sequelae resulting from infectious diseases https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10864624/#s3 Then mask up.

    At the moment PMC19 modeling shows that we are in the beginning of the 13th peak in Covid19. Ask yourself, do you wish to participate in this peak, or no?
    If no then mask up.

    Go a little more granular, local, small, find the waste water surveillance for your county, if it's available. Look at the county level for PMC19, which alas is from the previous weeks data. PCR takes time to run. Same for waste water surveillance.

    Consider if your town is a big tourist destination/ had a big influx recently for some big event. My town has huge events nearly every weekend of the Summer, which attracts people from other areas. I generally avoid such events, since 2020. And if I decide to go, I wear a mask.

    Consider where you are going: Regardless of those numbers, anyplace where large numbers gather (big group choral event), or large numbers pass through (grocery store), wear a mask.

    Consider how much your death from cardiovascular disease, which is increased for 3 months post covid19, yes even a mild case, will mean to those around you. Also consider how much the death of someone you care about will mean when you get a mild/ asymptomatic and pass it along to them, e.g. your unvaccinated!?! elder parent.

    Consider social implication in a small group - does everyone vs anyone vs no one in that group do anything useful in preventing the spread of infectious disease, e.g. testing, masking, handwashing, vaccination, participate or not if obviously sick (oh it's just a sniffle, oh, it's just allergies, oh X obvious symptom goes without any change in behavior whatsoever).

    Apparently I can keep going on this, and have probably already "flooded the zone". These are some consideration.

    tl;dr - wash hands, wear a mask, get vaxxed, avoid exposure to ignorant people who don't give a care for themselves or for you.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    I wear a mask anytime I'm inside with anyone outside my bubble since 2020. Which means I haven't eaten at a restaurant without good outdoor seating in 6 years, which is annoying for my friends.

    The covid vaccine is no longer available in my country.

    I always said I'd remove the mask when the number of covid infections dropped below 1 case per 1 million people. Now that countries don't track infections, I don't know how to translate that boundary into waste water testing or whatever data we have today.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Same with me, and restaurants. I hang with friends outside, turns out that was mostly a good choice.

    Ok, so back to my questions: 1 case of what, per million people over what time frame? There were over a million or more C19 new daily infections during the 4th thru 12th waves of this disease. We are over 500K new daily infections per day and 3.69 million cases per week, and rising on the current, 13th peak. Per the graph on pmc19.com.

    According to (https://www.statista.com/statistics/861113/estimated-number-of-flu-cases-us/) each flu season in the US from 2011 t0 2025 had from 9.4 to 51 million cases. Take a look at that graph, especially 21/22 to 24/25. When the numbers start to rise, or as soon as now get your flu vax, and... wash your hands, wear a mask.

    My point being there are common diseases, Covid19, Influenza A, Influenza B and others, which will outright kill a person, or give them post acute effects that will kill, or disable.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I'm not worried about getting some short-term, non-chronic infection of influenza or covid. I'm worried about getting long covid. Or giving any of that to someone else who is more immune comprised than myself.

    My boundary is 1 person testing positive for covid in one day per 1 million in my region (roughly 100 km or so from my work/home). If we had a few weeks pass were less than 1 person per 1 million people were positive for covid 19 per day, I'd feel the risk was low enough to eat inside a restaurant.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The weekly infections isn't so bad. That means everyone catching it once every 2 years on average. I assumed it would be an annual or semi annual thing.

    However, the world is forever changed. I was recently on holiday in Bali with my mother in law. She was quite unwell with cocid like symptoms. Couldn't get a test anywhere. The locals would sell anything if they could make a buck, as they are mostly subsitence living. I assume it's a policy.

    I know they are still available in Australia but they are less prevalent and nobody bothers testing or isolating if they are. People think it's just a cold as they don't personally get very sick. The selfishness and lack of scientific and medical understanding in the age of information is an indctment of humanity.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    its called sequelae, alot of viruses can cause post-viral syndromes, long covid is the unofficial term. i believe it triggered my atopic dermatitis more early than usual.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I was chatting with someone recently with lots of long covod symptoms. They were mild but persistent for over a year. Her doctor said it's not long covid as too mild. I was thinking to myself, isn't everything on a spectrum. If her match, it's covid, unless he has an alternative answer. Unless you see black and white, it's horwes, not zebras.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    As always, diagnoses are simplified medical/social constructs that don’t fully capture the reality.

    and it doesn’t help that there’s loads of prejudice against Long COVID in medicine.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I wouldn't say it's just long COVID there's prejudice against. It's a lot of the hidden disorders -ME/CFS, fibromyalgia, POTS, ehlers-danlos syndrome etc etc. I think long COVID has brought more interest and research to some of the other conditions

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Brain fog doesn't seem like the best term, it needs something more clinical.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Thanks for sharing this website

    I just don't understand why all this beautiful data is shared in an image format?!?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Makes it easier to share, like this.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Wut. You can take a screenshot of a data table.

    But it makes it a lot more difficult to share the text. And it's impossible for blind people to read

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  • [–] 191 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Don't forget, they stopped reporting a lot of COVID related deaths as COVID a while back. Lots of sweeping things under the rug.

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  • [–] 56 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    This whole epidemic was sweeping under rugs from start to probably forever. Insane malpractice on so many levels and right wing nut jobs cry about governments asking them to wear masks or getting a shot as if that was a problem.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I find some irony in the fact that a lot of those that refused to wear masks during Covid are now wearing masks as ICE.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    they stop mid 2022. people were still get nasty covid infections, one of parents had covid that caused very painful sore throat a year later, gave us a minor infection. then last year when the razor blade variant was running around, i had in sept. i believed it was partially responsible for triggering atopic dermatitis.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    My partner has long COVID; from that we see a community of those getting diagnosed is increasing as well.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I always found it interesting how most people seemed to only focus on survivability. Like, COVID was almost always spoken about as if there were only two outcomes: die or not die. Conversations about the disease, virus, or vaccines often completely ignored the lasting damage that the disease can leave survivors with.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The mental and physical degradation is just brushed aside.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Its like those people who focus only on GDP per capita ....

    But then never focus on Reported Quality Of Life.

    Who cares if the GDP Per Capita is like 1 million per a person if over half of the peoppe occupying a region are billionaires?

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  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Yesterday I heard that in my country of the Netherlands, 4 people received euthanasia last year due to long covid. Euthanasia is doctor assisted suicide, and to receive it you must prove "unbearable suffering" with no hope of improvement. They weren't super old either, the youngest was 51.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    It can attack every system within our bodies, and even hurt our brains if we're unlucky. We failed to contain and stop the spread. Now it's mutated and will be with our species for the foreseeable future. Videos of those with really bad long covid are so sad. Physics Girl had her whole YouTube channel flipped and talked about it openly. Fascinatingly horrifying.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah, that why it was first misdiagnosed as a respiratory illness and only months later it was discovered it’s a BLOOD illness.

    We should call it the ‘blood flu’ … might make people realize it’s not a simple cold.

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  • Young people too are increasingly requesting assisted suicide. I read an article about how in 2025, of the 8 people that made a request through the largest assisted suicide association (DGHS) due to ME/CFS, 5 were between 24 and 29 years old. There are sadly no official numbers for total assisted suicides due to ME/CFS (or any other reason) available.

    Looking at a statistic I found, in 2024 the same association helped just 4 people in the same age range request assisted suicide:

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago (22 children)

    There's a really bad surge in Texas right now that hit me like a truck. I'd had it a few times before, but this was by far the worst and the shortness of breath and brain fog aren't going away this time.

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    Hasn't everyone had it at least once by now?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I had it only once, when I didn't wear a mask to a work function. In like 22. My wife uses meds that makes her immunocompromised so she's still masking. I'm not but probably should be. I do wear masks on planes and stuff

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    My husband and I still have not had it. At first we thought maybe we were just asymptomatic. Nope, I got sick and hospitalized from the vaccine with myocarditis and the doctor said if I got actual Covid I’d probably die. So my husband has masked up really thoroughly as well.

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    Still haven't had one with symptoms. Ftfy.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Yeah that's me. I tested and had it, back in January 2021, when my whole family had it. No symptoms for me. I always say I never get sick, but I'm fairly confident I'm just a disease vector at this point and I just never get symptomatic. My kids will bring stuff home from school, my wife will get it, and fortunately I'm able to just carry on.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Never tested positive for Covid over here. One cold one time in 2025, other than that I just haven’t been sick since 2019. I also had a stockpile of N95 masks before the pandemic because I was worried about a pandemic. I figured it would last about 5-10 years, and so far I have sadly been basically correct.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Lucky you. I got that the first time I had Covid during the pandemic. I was one of the "lucky" 35% or of people that ended up with those long term effects. I still lose words in mid sentence and can't remember what I was going to say next. The word is there in my head, and then instantly gone. It's the worst thing in the world......

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  • [+] -12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I heard that nicotine might be beneficial. try a nicotine patch.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I heard ivermectin works. Go buy a bunch. /s

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  • [–] 35 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I got long COVID and now my memory is like the guy from Memento.

    Obviously I'm exaggerating, I have trouble remembering what I've done yesterday though

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    It's surprising how many of the long COVID symptoms are common with ADHD. I will expand on this topic later but right now I have to find my car keys.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    COVID broke public health. You can't even get tested where I live. Nobody has any idea of the prevelance.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Tests are in every pharmacy and relatively cheap.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    That's not a public health test as it's not reportable. Just lime I can take my own temperature but public health doesn't care. Compare the treatment of COVID to sexually transmitted infections that are reported and contact traced.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    I've been saying it's endemic for the whole earth for years. Now it's just another thing to test for (in my area) when people come in for upper respiratory issues along like flu and strep.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    its only gets reported in the news, if the new variant is particular severe, like last year, otherwise you never hear about covid. also people around me, dont think it exists anymore, even in a covid-conscisous city.

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    In this case, I'm referring to the baseline or prevalence throughout all of Earth's population. Whereas pandemic is more like an epidemic that has spread to other contries.

    Covid is common now like the common cold, flu, strep. It's always gonna be with us I'm afraid. I would also believe that most every human has been exposed to the virus at this point.

    https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/featured-topic/endemic-epidemic-pandemic

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  • [–] 58 points 1 month ago* (8 children)

    Sorry, this is wrong. Right now it's about 200 people per day

    https://www.pmc19.com/

    And that's not worldwide. That's just in the US.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    doesn’t that say 5.4 daily?

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Can you point me to where it mentions that 5.4 stat? I'm probably misreading a chart.. I found this section which I think moldy_rice was reverencing:

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    What the internet could be. Makes me smile.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Jesus have you read any Instagram comments sections? On anything almost, people are absolutely vile to each other. I didn't get it the hostility and name calling is just astounding.

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