I know that it's mostly a joke, yet it is worth mentioning that those valuable spices were exclusively used by the rich and wealthy. Ordinary people and their food did not benefit from the spice trade at all. If you delve a little bit into culinary history and find out what the aristocrats did with (for example) extremely rare and precious nutmeg the British Empire fought wars over, you want to dig up their bones, revive them, just so that you can kill them again.
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Walking down a high street in the UK. I smell loads of spices from even the shit takeaways.
curry doesn't count.
Why not? If that is the case then American cuisine is limited to corn syrup and growth hormones.
Because including any kind of Anglo infusion cuisine would go against the narrative that food in the UK is bad.
So it is the case?
Take it a step further then. Why does Italy get modern pizza? Tomatoes are not native to Europe.
Lol. You went to Florida and only ate fast food, didn't you?
There's more than one American cuisine. Southern, Northern Mexican (Cal-Mex, Tex-Mex, etc), New York (basically fusion of Jewish and Irish in a few things), American Chinese, etc.
American fast food is common, but not the whole thing.
Nope, if Britain can't have anything similar to another culture then America can't have anything Irish, Jewish or Mexican either.
or Mexican either.
Uh 'Mexican' isn't indigenous either . . . it results from the fusion of Native American, Spanish, and French cuisines, among others.
And there isn't a single Mexican cuisine either, there's multiple.
I've got a recipe from my Ojibwa neighbor's Grandmother for roasted grouse made with nothing more than honey, salt, and cranberries roasted in duck fat. Served with wild rice cooked with cranberries. The subtleties of the dish will blow your mind. It makes delicate Japanese dishes look like all show and no go flavor. The smokiness of the hand parched wild rice set against the tart cranberries is to die for. A meal meant for kings, (And Queens if you swing that way)!
And she can't get enough potato klub, lefse, and lutefisk when I make those Norwegian dishes I learned from my Grandmother and Mother.
It's like there is no accounting for food tastes.
There are some indigenous mexican peoples still around, and with that their cuisines.
A minority cause of all the invading and pillaging done by Europe and America, but they're still around.
Latest census data: 11,800,247 self-identified Indigenous Mexicans (9.36% of the total population of Mexico)
Then burgers don't count for Americans either then. They're a German invention
So you're saying the American's Apple Pie (German) and Bagels (some debate, but Eastern European) count but Curry doesn't?
The rest of the world thinks that Britain doesn't use spices, what we don't know is that for some reason, we seem to use them in our confectionery.
We really like ginger.
The British eat so much Indian food it's crazy. There's a Nando's on damn near every corner in London.
It’s just like how in America there is a Mexican restaurant in every small shitty town.
I'm assuming those are meant to be unrelated statements?
Cause Nandos is Portuguese-African fusion food
Nando's is South African
South African and Portuguese fusion food.
The history is that South Africa had a lot of Portuguese immigrants during the Portuguese civil war, and that then made a whole new cuisine that's a fusion of South Africa and Portugal.
And the owner was from that region, and brought that cuisine over to England, big hit, made a chain of it
I think they were connecting two seperate cuisines which heavily feature spices, not goving Nandos as an example of indian food.
Everyone always forgets that Chicken Tikka Masala is a British dish and one of the most popular meals in the country
The British claiming tikka masala is like NYC claiming pizza.
It's quite well established that it's a British dish. Curry in general isn't, but Tikka masala is. It's like Canada claiming Pizza Hawaii.
Its not so clear cut: https://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/npr/1145119758/who-created-chicken-tikka-masala-the-death-of-a-curry-king-is-reviving-a-debate
"It's kind of like: who invented chicken noodle soup?" says Leena Trivedi-Grenier, a freelance food writer who probed the various origin claims in 2017. "It's a dish that could've been invented by any number of people at the same time."
"How do you colonize and enslave an entire country for a century and then claim that one of their dishes is from your own country?"
Still possible it was created by the South Asian diaspora in Britain but there's a reason the likes of Nigel Farage want CTM "remigrated" and not so for the likes of Shephard's Pie or Yorkshire Pudding.
I dated a British girl in high school. She microwave broccoli in water. No salt or seasoning. No butter. No nothing.
She took it out, drained the water and told me her dish was done.
That was the last time she made anything for us.
I feel like I’m missing something, was her task not to cook the broccoli? What is meant by “dish”? It is just broccoli? Am I Bri’ish?
That doesn't sound all that bad? Not everything needs to be salted. Broccoli in and of itself has a nice flavour, imo
I don't know. I normally bake or sauteed my broccoli. Never heard of microwave boiled.
Sounds like me, except I would drink the broccoli water.
Once you reset your palette, cutting out excess salt and sugar and cheap fats, and processed foods, you learn to enjoy the taste of whole foods all on their own. Salted ourselves to taste, which is far less than processed food will add.
...there's gotta be a healthy solution somewhere between industrially processed meals and plain microwave-boiled broccoli
A toaster oven, or regular oven I guess if you’re fancy, some olive oil and a sprinkling of red chili flaked will get you done delicious roast broccoli (400°F/205°C for ~15 minutes)
No! If you don't take an extreme stance on this topic, you might be seen as boring!
The fact that you think it can only be one or the other is really fucking sad.
People think Britain doesn't use spices. Read Mrs Beeton's recipes from the 1800s. It's ALL the herbs & spices - all spice, curry, chilli, cardomom, fenugreek, ginger, mace, nutmeg, pepper, saffron etc. British cooking really hasn't changed that much if you look at it in its entirety.
Sure, privately and those who have time. But the public houses aren't going to stock a full cabinet of spice, replacing a spice cabinet is spendy.


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