i can see how cool it would be for sheet music! i personally use paper but i have been considering putting sheet music on my e-ink tablet. personally, if i'm already bringing a bass guitar or clarinet case and music stand, it's easy enough to also bring a tablet sized thing. i don't need it to also be my phone. i like having my phone be just a phone, and as portable as possible. i already have a separate camera and music player and notebook. probably i will get a dumbphone when my iphone dies.

That's surprisingly reasonable, actually. Do you know if the hinge replacement is included, and will you be charged separately for the "screen protector" (another €29)?

A friend had one of those Z Fold-somethings, naturally the screen exploded after 2.5 years of use (in a country where they don't offer any repair services), I looked into replacing the screen myself and the procedure for it looked straight up impossible compared even to other Samsung phones.

If you're buying a foldable you don't give a fuck about money. $2000 is about market rates for this type of device rn:

And it's clear that all foldable screens explode in 2-3 years of regular use, so you're pretty much setting 2 grand on fire anyways just to look cool.

At least I "trust" apple to actually replace your phone when that happens.

My iPhone SE is at 68% battery life and 6yrs old. This may the closest we get to a smaller phone. I will likely wait until next year and hopefully buy the version 1 cheaper.

But the iPhone mini is what I want darn it. Considering the SE and Plus lines are also dead, I’m not sure they were what the people wanted either. But I suppose Apple is just throwing gimmicks phones at the wall to see what sticks.

I definitely don’t want this and it’s hard for me to see how this is any more useful than just having an iPad or a laptop in a bag a long side your phone.

Is this an actual production iPhone Duo?

Yep

Damn

Certainly better than my 2023 Pixel Fold but mine's 3 years old. Youtube reviewers said the crease wouldn't be noticeable once there's content on it but I can always feel it when I scroll and text doesn't look perfect over those pixels. I do like having a bigger screen for my failing vision but I waited 2 years and got my open box/refurb unit for $350 last year, I don't expect that kind of depreciation on this thing.

Someone had to work to find the perfect angle to hold it at to see this. Won’t be an issue for normal people.

I’ve been waiting on the idea of a folding phone until Apple did it, cause I pretty much was sure only they could do it right. It looks like I was right, but I’m still not convinced that they can/have solve(d) the crease problem.

I can’t afford to upgrade right now, especially at these prices, and I probably wouldn’t just because I want other people to test it out first. Also, we’re at the era when iPhones last for years and years. I’m still on my iPhone 14 Pro and perfectly happy with it. If I got the iPhone duo now, and it wasn’t built to last like my iPhone 14 Pro, I’d be pretty pissed. So I’m perfectly happy to let others test it out, or even wait until the iPhone duo two or three before I commit, again, especially at these prices. (holy banana boobies!)

I used to upgrade every year until my 11 Pro, then a few years until my 14 Pro, and now I haven’t upgraded since because Apple makes their phone so goddamn well. The only reason I’m even considering upgrading at this point is because I want a USB-C port, and I have finally dropped my iPhone so many times, that it has lost it waterproofness. Because I never owned an iPhone more than a year, this hasn’t happened before, but after year 4, I’m in a bit of a tough spot.

Math is like that…

Edit: oh shit, like seven people made comments while I was editing this. Sorry!

As someone who hasn’t actually had one ever, that should probably answer your question

But I do have a not-tiny amount of OCD, so it’s a type of thing that would annoy me insanely, even though it didn’t really matter that much

That's.... the pretty standard rate for a book style foldable. Not Apple being Apple.

Apple's lies somewhere in between the $1900 Galaxy Z Fold 8, and the $2100 Galazy Z Fold 8 Ultra. And the price is right in the middle at $2000.

The Pixel Fold 11 Pro is $1900.

The Razr Fold is $1900.

The Oppo Find N6 is $1900.

Look, Apple‘s build quality just can’t be beat. They make a solid goddamn product. I have been buying Apple products for over 25 years, and I have never had a single Apple product fail on me. Not once.

Now you can complain all you want about the software, but that’s mostly a matter of personal opinion, and some matter of weirdness. But the software is also pretty solid, saved for some odd choices here and there.

It’s all BSD/UNIX after all (or, a rather odd derivative akin to the likes of Solaris, but that’s another conversation)

However, recently, the corporate philosophy and my own philosophy has become divergent, and Linux has become a lot more attractive. And, finally, far more capable than it has been in the past. finally, a worthy replacement.

That’s what macOS always was: what Linux wasn’t yet. But it is now. and Apple has run the fuck out of time.

For example, until the last five or eight years or so, Apple used to be a major contributor to some of the most important open source projects on earth,… Until the last five or eight years or so… Not so much anymore. There are a lot more examples, but I don’t think you wanna hear it.

For all of the awesomeness that Apple once held, it really was Tim Cook that took a shit on all of it

Apple really did used to be great 😢

That’s fair, and to each their own. I just can’t see Steve Jobs approving this design as is.

What idiot would ever put a screen on the outer surface?!?!?

/s

“Foldable iPad mini that becomes an iPhone while folded” is probably my ideal take on the folding phone.

And that screen becomes an outer surface… so it’s going to get dinged up a LOT.

That's literally every single phone in existence right now....

but the thickness of a mid-sized paperback

It's 2.5mm thicker folded, than a regular iPhone pro is.

It looks like they’ve taken an iPad Mini and made it foldable with an extra display for when it’s closed

Yeah that was the idea.

We really are.

And that’s for the 256GB version. I wonder what the 1 and 2TB sizes cost?