It's almost like they want their fanbase to remain single and sexually frustrated
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It’s called Stank Booty here where I live, and it’s quite the cock block actually.
so how many men is "some men?" weasel words imply the actual reality is someone saw a statistically insignificant number of tweets and didn't want to say that because it weakens the point they already decided they want to make.
anyway my junk smells great after a shower, and i know people with sniff kinks, so... i guess that makes me more alpha than these losers.
Let them. Better odds for the rest of us.
My wife has always told me that women really just want a guy who is nice to them and doesn't smell, and monosphere weirdos keep telling them to do the opposite.
Well you're not going keep a small army of incels addicted to "content" and dubious financial apps signed up to via affiliate links if you get them all laid now, are you?
I’ve read my fair share of romance novels by women and it’s common to describe the main love interest as smelling like freshly clean laundry lol. Literally just show up clean with clean clothes on. It’s not more complicated than that.
Your wife is being disingenuous with you. Nice isn't what women are attracted to.
Technically true. Fun and interesting are what most people are attracted to regardless of gender. People also are particularly prone to developing attraction to people they feel good being around.
Kindness is however a prerequisite for a large portion of women (and an absolute no go for plenty of other women, because people). The ones who want kindness are much better partners
100 percent disagree. The number one thing that women consider in a long term partner is financial stability. People confuse "kind to me" as kind. The shittiest rich people have the most partners. People are attracted to power and success. The stories come along after.
Well, I was nice to her, and now I'm married, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Doesn't mean your a nice person.....
OK, well then I'm glad I said, "be nice to them," not, "be a nice person in your heart of hearts."
By telling you to trust virgin men instead of women on matters of what said women think, said virgin men fried your understanding of the world forever.
oh here we go. with the nice guys. yeah, be an aggro butthole, lay out the insults, they LOVE IT! buddy. you've been sold the garbage and you're eating it.
That's a lot of projection, I never said any of that. All I said was that being a nice person isn't what attracts mates.
Is this just a feed back loop for incels? Woman rejects them at first date because they smell terribly and they have new "evidence" of all women hating them?
Yep. Just like all male influencer advice. It's a pit of despair you can only keep falling down so long as you keep taking their advice
Acting like they will stop being incels if they use Axe and buy a fit is disingenuous.
Quit generalizing. I'm not acting like that.
It's not that hard... shower 4-8 hours before the date, then don't do anything that makes you sweat significantly or become dirty. You'll still be clean, but won't have scrubbed away your natural smells and the like.
If you show up to a cafe smelling like an anime convention or a TCG tournament then you have only yourself to blame when your date runs away gagging.
Dart tournaments are just as bad.
Lol fr? I thought dart people were more on the normal side than the nerd side...
Oh God no. They drink a lot and eat like shit. State dart tournaments smell like BO and a porta-pottie. There's so much methane I'm surprised none have exploded yet.
A young woman once did comment positively on my scent while I was perspiring lightly, but I had showered previously, so that probably helped the most.
Definitely a big difference between fresh sweat on a clean, healthy person and STANK!
Lmao why did you say this so formally?
"Yeah, ladies, once you get a deep whiff of my good old American masculine STANK, you'll be putty in my hands."
- Some Smelly Incel.
I’m pretty sure if it’s anything-maxxing it’s stupid as fuck. Unless it’s giving me money-maxing. I’m all for that one.
Max-maxxing. Max everything out. Have everything and do everything. Become one with the universe, be the beginning and end of time
fibremaxxing: consume nothing but wood and grass so you quite literally shit bricks that can be used for construction.
seriously, using high-fibre (animal) poo in mud bricks is a legitimate construction technique that works great in dry climates!
Maybe something with this?
Regarding human attraction, evolutionary theory suggests that individuals may be subconsciously drawn to partners with dissimilar MHC genes. This preference is often mediated by body odor, as MHC genotypes influence the scent of sweat and other bodily fluids. Choosing a partner with different MHC alleles increases the likelihood that offspring will inherit a diverse set of immune genes, potentially enhancing their pathogen resistance and overall fitness.
Maybe, but I wouldn't put too much faith in this being the source, because (a) these male influencer types often just transfer (outdated) findings from research on animal behavior to humans (see this "alpha/beta/sigma" stuff) and (b) the idea here seems to be "more is better" which makes no sense even if you were to (wrongly) equate body odor with sex pheromones.
That this somehow transfers to not showering leading to positive interactions with women is mere speculation.
But, y'all go ahead and try whatever. It's not like talking to women respectfully and showing an interest hasn't worked for, well, since forever.
I guess measuring skull dimensions went out of fashion.
First they embraced the debunked Alpha Wolf shit. Now they think humans still have pheromone receptors.
Yu-Gi-Oh tournaments is where all the ladies at
I’m not up on whatever trend but it may work in some cases provided they’re not just marinating in filth (there’s definitely a difference).
I got psy-op’d by society into being very anxious about possibly smelling around a date since I sweat easily so I ensured absolutely every time before one was a VERY thorough shower and scrub til’ I was practically raw, generous application of deoderant, etc. and applied a light bit of tea tree oil before I went on a date.
On one of the early dates with my now-wife while we were watching a movie, she finally turned to me and said that there was some sort of smell to me that was giving her a headache for the past few dates and asked if I could just not use that moving forward.
It turned out that she actually hated the deoderant and tea tree and so on and actually some sort of wire is crossed in her head such that my natural body scent smells like passionfruit to her (she very positively rates passionfruit). So my early efforts to come off as if I have never had the concept of sweat in my life were directly sabotaging my attempt to appeal to her nose, in addition to making me feel insecure about it when there was really no need.
going light on perfume (or straight up not using it at all) should be borderline mandated by law, so many people suffer from being surrounded by pungent perfume, it can literally trigger asthma attacks!
Keep yourself clean, use like a single spritz of perfume, and apply it a while before you head out so it has time to mellow down a bit. And please god use gentle subtle scents, not Febreeze Facefuck Fury that singes people's nose hairs clean off..
some people are really sensitive to tea treec oil smell, I honestly find it pretty upsetting to smell, had to use it as some sort of remedy for something I don't remember, but I remember how much I hated the smell. there's always a downside to over doing it on smells.
My first GF, many years ago. I was snuggling with her, and smelled her hair. I said it smelled nice, and she pulled back to tell me she hadn't washed it in three days. In the moment, because I was so young and inexperienced, I felt a little foolish.
It doesn't take long to realize it's okay to like what you like.
Is time flowing in reverse? I swear this was a thing ten years ago.
It's the same Naturalist fallacy that health-and-wellness hucksters love to pitch to people. Another one I loved was "don't wash your hair, that causes baldness", leading to an entire graduating class of college kids going around with bedhead for a year or three.
Source? Because, the only info I've come across is a decades-old study that linked aluminum with Alzheimer's which was disproved a year later.
So as long as I'm not a zebrafish or a literal mine worker I should probably be fine then?
I also note that you're making a suspiciously large number of pro-stinky comments in this thread.
I wasn't insinuating that you were misogynistic, though I can definitely see how that could be taken from my comment in the context of the article.
I did read the third one, or at least what was available for free. It briefly mentions antiperspirants in passing in the same paragraph that mentions all of the likely much more serious confounding factors (including, for example, actual ingestion) that could be leading to aluminum crossing the blood-brain barrier.
From your links I'm convinced that I probably shouldn't eat or inhale aluminum, but I see much less reason to avoid anti-perspirants.
Edit: I'm also skeptical of your Nature link for all of the usual reasons to be wary of meta-studies.
Hi, that was me. This place is pro-science, which is why when people post articles with only the most tenuous possible connection to the conversation at hand in order to promote the pro-stink agenda they're spouting all over the thread, it tends to be quite the turnoff.
The same way that stinky people tend to be quite the turnoff.
I don't have to like the science - it just needs to actually be relevant to the conversation (that is, people showering and using deodorant), and not a handful of essentially random studies dug up as flailing, ad-hoc support to a thread-wide crusade against basic hygeine.
Edit: To be more clear, if I hadn't already noticed all of your other comments spammed around the thread, I probably wouldn't have downvoted the studies you posted. It was the specific impression of disingenuously throwing any science you could at the wall and hoping it stuck that made me want to downvote.
Same reason I downvote most studies posted by vegans and creationists, actually - the distasteful practice of taking an ideological position and then trying to find/manufacture "science" to support it after the fact.
It's relevant in the same way that equating using a salt scrub in the bath with death from directly eating a pound of table salt is relevant.
"I really like using my salt scrub - it gives me super smooth skin." "Bro, sodium HAZ negative effects on the body. THIS IS RELEVANT."
Also, I made a late edit to the above comment that might be of interest since this thread is originally about why I downvoted you.
I don't like eating aluminum. I like licking armpits. I am biased.
This is a very fair point that I admit I did not take into consideration.
It's absolutely a reasonable position to not be in favor of anti-perspirant if it's likely you'd be in a position to ingest it, at least for your potential partners specifically.
That said, I also think that's likely a minority position in the thread, enough so to warrant a disclaimer when you posted the original studies.
This is especially the case if that fact is what your argument against using anti-perspirants is actually resting on, and you're not just trying to find post-hoc support of your dislike of anti-perspirants in general.
It still doesn't really explain the studies about miners and zebrafish though.
We don't have to agree, except on one thing. Chuds suck because they're assholes, not because they stink.
The closest I can get is "Chuds suck because they're assholes, and the fact that some of them stink is a very small but valid additional reason to not want to be around them."
They also don't wash their asses because its "gay".
Look, be clean and don't smell like sweat. But it's not always a good idea to go crazy with cologne either. I've had one person tell me that my natural scent was extremely attractive.
As always, it's entirely dependent on you and who you're trying to impress.
Any excuse to not have to wash your ass, boys. 🙄
I can't speak for anyone else but I can tell you when I look for a partner the main deal breaker is if they don't shower often enough. I don't want to smell Eau de Ass in my daily life.


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