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[–] 150 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

If you see that many ads you still have malware, we just call them apps now.

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  • [–] 130 points 2 months ago (11 children)
  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    How did you get a screenshot of my ex wife's old Samsung netbook?

    She called me up once, asked if I could have a look at it because it was slow as hell. Opened IE and I'm not kidding when I say that literally 1/3 of the tiny screen was toolbars.

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  • [–] 60 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Now the virus is the operating system.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I screamed when I saw a ad in the fucking Windows 10 start menu. Literally suggesting you download Minecraft. Like wtf Microsoft -- this is a work computer.

    Not sure what win11 has but I bet its Cortana or bing or whatever AI slop they use.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Conversely, ads are now one of the primary vectors how malware is distributed, so you still have at least 3 viruses on your computer. 👍

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Just like how boomers always used to assume millennials are children, everyone keeps assuming gen z are children.

    The absolute youngest gen z are 14, only 4 more years and there won't be any child gen z left.

    Though with how fucked gen alpha is appearing due to the systematic destruction of teaching basic reading skills plus brainrot plus AI; I have a feeling us gen z will go the way of gen x, being silently overshadowed by our neighboring gens over time. Also the nihilism, gen x and gen z share a lot of nihilism.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Watching TV, ads ran every 15 minutes and lasted 3 minutes when I was a kid but then jumped up to 4-5 minutes. So, 4 minutes of ads and 11 minutes of show, then another 4 minutes of ads. Unskippable, awful ads for deodorant and slap chop

    Oh discussion is only about computers. I remember the first popup ads and pop under ads and they put a fake x so when you click it instead of closing it takes you to install malware

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  • [–] 57 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Facts.

    I mean, I haven't seen that shit on my system in years because I run redundant adblockers but... when viewing someone elses computer.... it's crazy.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago

    Listen, I'll admit I've never experienced a virus download automatically and rarely experienced a virus from a sketchy file.

    But nearly all of gen Z remembers the free internet. Even up to 2016 it was still possible to view every major website without an account.

    Every time I disable my ad block, or I see Internet Archive fail to save a webpage, or I'm forced to download the app for the privilege of scrolling down a thread; I get mad at what was taken.

    We didn't realize how brief the era of mostly reliable and always verifiable universal information access would be. Now we can't trust any video because Sam Alton threw gasoline on the AI fire to make a failed Tiktok clone.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    What ads? uBlock, Sponsorblock and an automatic cookie decliner and the Internet experience is only hindered by log ins.

    Also change your DNS and if you can use a VPN and a faked user profile like user agent switcher.

    Sites these days collect all the data they can, that includes your screen size, system data like sound drivers and operating system or your language and IP Adresss which sites you visit at what times (that is where the DNS comes into play).

    But yeah, the Internet has changed a lot and for the worse. So far there are ways to mitigate them.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (11 children)

    gen-z and alpha don't know anything about computers.

    frankly, i have no idea how anything is even maintained. it's probably on the backs of millions of first and second-gen immigrants.

    some of these dumbasses i work with can't even navigate basic windows features--and these are college bound young adults.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I read comments like yours and always thought it was hyperbole, then I became a bioinformatics teacher.

    Not hyperbole. iOS and Android destroyed future generation's ability to understand traditional computing.

    They can't unzip a file, they can't navigate a directory hierarchy deeper than one level, they can't reply to an email without replying to all recipients.

    A class about BLAST had to become a class about how to install a program on Windows.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    wait... how to install a program on windows? you mean download the installer, yes, yes, next, i agree, next next next, done?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    The main installation method young people run into nowadays is the Steam or phone app store experience: search for the thing in the store, click "install," wait briefly, click "open." Installing a program from a website or physical media is not as common an activity as it used to be — other than installing Steam itself or similar, for example, which is a quickly forgotten inconvenience.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    gen z here, you're thinking of young gen z or gen alpha. us old gen zs have a lot in common with milenials, as in we're the ones doomed to export to .pdf and "fix the wi-fi please"

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    ome of these dumbasses i work with can’t even navigate basic windows features–and these are college bound young adults.

    It's funny, if you have a generation that hasn't ever needed to use Windows, wasn't trained on it, pretty hard to knock them for it. It would be the same thing as taking Windows users and dumping them on Mac, or worse, dumping them into a rando Linux distro and saying 'good luck, why do you suck at this'. Its a pretty popular YouTube video topic for the tech sphere lately though.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Still the case. Except now the malware is from the OS/hardware vendor.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    "Back in my day" if a platform or service would look at all your messages and sell the data it would be called active spyware and we treated that like the antichrist.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Software peaked around 2008. And that's a looong time ago now.

    Yes there has been a few improvements since then, but nothing that can really be said to compensate for the massive enshittification of performance, basic quality control, UI, UX, pricing as well as the anti-user practices that have become commonplace.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Sad I never got to experience it.

    The 2008 financial crises rendered me homeless through my teenage years and my early adult years. I went from experiencing Windows XP/Mac OSX 10.4 straight to Windows 8.1 (I just missed Vista and was quickly introduced to Windows 10).

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Me being on the family computer running XP and finding porn for the first time around high school age. Learned a lot of things immediately after.

    Got caught and lectured.

    1. So I learned to wipe history and cookies.
    2. I honestly don't remember anymore how adblockers work back then or it exists. Probably does. But fuck all the fake Download buttons and X to close buttons.
    3. I learned how and where from to torrent safely eventually.
    4. became the tech support cleaning all the stupid toolbars. FML
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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago

    OMG I remember browser toolbars! One time I used my relatives PC and there were like 6 toolbars stacked on top of each other... I was like what have you been doing with this?!

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Advertising is the most prolific form of environmental pollution wrought by commerce.

    It needs to become as socially acceptable as smoking, and every instance of it must be exhaustively scrutinised and required to be justified.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I don't think you lot know how old gen Z are, older gen Z are turning 30 next year

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    It's roughly the right ballpark. Yes some of the oldest gen Zs dealt with that era in their childhoods, but by the time they were not depending on their parents to curate their computer, most of them weren't dealing with that reality anymore.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    Well these days the OS is the virus

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I've a friend who uses chrome on Windows and absolutely refuses to switch to Firefox for ublock. His kid is three and already knows what ads are.

    I don't get it.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Yeah those people are absolutely frying their children's brains. I can't imagine not protecting kids against constant notifications or ads.

    I think the worst is when parents give their children a phone, but do a really shitty job vetting what apps they install. Like, why did you let your small child install 150 "free" "games" which show two ads every 75 seconds? Are you insane, stupid, evil or all three equally???

    My god I am so triggered.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    sure kid. for me it would be a long interstate road trip in a car that runs leaded gas, has no A/C and only an AM radio.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Fedi is great because if you saw as many ads as I see every day on fedi, it meant you had at least one virus, not three.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Life was easy back in the day. People asked me to fix their computer. "I installed Firefox 3.5 and ABP. Life should be good for you now."

    Come back years later annnnnnd they have been goaded to use Chrome and have trillions of bullshit apps. Was like "sorry, you have to actually pay me real money to fix this, people in this industry are actually very well compensated"

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    get this man a true

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Reminded me of this certified hood classic.

    Excel Hell

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Or you're a teenager making fat stacks with multiple ad bars. And by fat stacks, I mean fractions of a cent.

    There was an ISP that also gave a discount (or was it free?) if you had the ad bar running. NetZero was it?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I think? or Juno.. one of the dialups.

    man I cant believe I remember Juno.. or NetZero.

    edit I just looked it up.. NetZero still exists.And is still operating, as a dialup internet provider.

    more so.. the company that owns NetZero, also owns Juno.. and owns K-Marts (Americas K-Mart, not Australia's) BlueLight Internet service as well.

    Talk about a memory hole

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Wow, that's wild. I guess there's still a market for dialup, even in the age of mobile and satellite.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago*

    Basically every time America gives huge telecom conglomerates money to expand rural services they literally just steal it and face no consequence whatsoever. It’s such a scam, politicians look good because they vote to spend 400 million dollars to expand rural access, comcast and Verizon take with the promise that in 5-10 years things will be better, then they do nothing hoping people will forget. Even when an expose article is written on the issue American cynicism kicks in and the politicians get away with letting them steal literally hundreds of millions of dollars.

    It’s basically money laundering. It’s also a reason rural areas (which already tend to skew republican) have more support for musk, because for a lot of them starlink is the only real option for passable internet, but that’s expensive for internet that is pretty shitty compared to a basic broadband connection. And thus ~20% of rural Americans and almost 30% of Americans on tribal lands have no access to broadband in 2026

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Now the viruses are in your brain. Never really went away...

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The whippersnappers think that as long as the ad is coming from someone hot and it's in their FYP, it must not be an ad.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    Eh, as a member of Gen Z I remember AOL dialup before we moved to cable, and using Mac os 9 on some of the iMac g3's the school had for reader rabbit/type to learn.

    I fondly remember infecting the family XP machine for cursor mania lmao.

    Kind of like the modern "Lincoln telegraphing a samurai".

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    That's the thing: that's still true, it's just that Windows, Chrome and Facebook/IG are all malware, and people (of all generations) seem to fail to process that undeniable fact.

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