If you see that many ads you still have malware, we just call them apps now.
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Ya know, that Alexa was probably more helpful than today's too. 😅
How did you get a screenshot of my ex wife's old Samsung netbook?
She called me up once, asked if I could have a look at it because it was slow as hell. Opened IE and I'm not kidding when I say that literally 1/3 of the tiny screen was toolbars.
I was looking into making a toolbar extension for fun, they look really whimsical. But all major browser removed the possibility :(
Fake and gay, we had and trusted chrome by then
Now the virus is the operating system.
I screamed when I saw a ad in the fucking Windows 10 start menu. Literally suggesting you download Minecraft. Like wtf Microsoft -- this is a work computer.
Not sure what win11 has but I bet its Cortana or bing or whatever AI slop they use.
Conversely, ads are now one of the primary vectors how malware is distributed, so you still have at least 3 viruses on your computer. 👍
Just like how boomers always used to assume millennials are children, everyone keeps assuming gen z are children.
The absolute youngest gen z are 14, only 4 more years and there won't be any child gen z left.
Though with how fucked gen alpha is appearing due to the systematic destruction of teaching basic reading skills plus brainrot plus AI; I have a feeling us gen z will go the way of gen x, being silently overshadowed by our neighboring gens over time. Also the nihilism, gen x and gen z share a lot of nihilism.
I remmeber early years of Facebook and other similar era stuff. It was pretty alright as far as ads go.
I also find this weird. I feel like millennials have more in common with gen z than any other two of the "gens".
Watching TV, ads ran every 15 minutes and lasted 3 minutes when I was a kid but then jumped up to 4-5 minutes. So, 4 minutes of ads and 11 minutes of show, then another 4 minutes of ads. Unskippable, awful ads for deodorant and slap chop
Oh discussion is only about computers. I remember the first popup ads and pop under ads and they put a fake x so when you click it instead of closing it takes you to install malware
Facts.
I mean, I haven't seen that shit on my system in years because I run redundant adblockers but... when viewing someone elses computer.... it's crazy.
Going to my parents' house is mildly maddening. They watch network and cable TV... The sheer number of ads is unbelievable to me.
Listen, I'll admit I've never experienced a virus download automatically and rarely experienced a virus from a sketchy file.
But nearly all of gen Z remembers the free internet. Even up to 2016 it was still possible to view every major website without an account.
Every time I disable my ad block, or I see Internet Archive fail to save a webpage, or I'm forced to download the app for the privilege of scrolling down a thread; I get mad at what was taken.
We didn't realize how brief the era of mostly reliable and always verifiable universal information access would be. Now we can't trust any video because Sam Alton threw gasoline on the AI fire to make a failed Tiktok clone.
What ads? uBlock, Sponsorblock and an automatic cookie decliner and the Internet experience is only hindered by log ins.
Also change your DNS and if you can use a VPN and a faked user profile like user agent switcher.
Sites these days collect all the data they can, that includes your screen size, system data like sound drivers and operating system or your language and IP Adresss which sites you visit at what times (that is where the DNS comes into play).
But yeah, the Internet has changed a lot and for the worse. So far there are ways to mitigate them.
gen-z and alpha don't know anything about computers.
frankly, i have no idea how anything is even maintained. it's probably on the backs of millions of first and second-gen immigrants.
some of these dumbasses i work with can't even navigate basic windows features--and these are college bound young adults.
I read comments like yours and always thought it was hyperbole, then I became a bioinformatics teacher.
Not hyperbole. iOS and Android destroyed future generation's ability to understand traditional computing.
They can't unzip a file, they can't navigate a directory hierarchy deeper than one level, they can't reply to an email without replying to all recipients.
A class about BLAST had to become a class about how to install a program on Windows.
wait... how to install a program on windows? you mean download the installer, yes, yes, next, i agree, next next next, done?
The main installation method young people run into nowadays is the Steam or phone app store experience: search for the thing in the store, click "install," wait briefly, click "open." Installing a program from a website or physical media is not as common an activity as it used to be — other than installing Steam itself or similar, for example, which is a quickly forgotten inconvenience.
gen z here, you're thinking of young gen z or gen alpha. us old gen zs have a lot in common with milenials, as in we're the ones doomed to export to .pdf and "fix the wi-fi please"
except when a website stops working when you enable adblockers, ive ever used monkeyscript
ome of these dumbasses i work with can’t even navigate basic windows features–and these are college bound young adults.
It's funny, if you have a generation that hasn't ever needed to use Windows, wasn't trained on it, pretty hard to knock them for it. It would be the same thing as taking Windows users and dumping them on Mac, or worse, dumping them into a rando Linux distro and saying 'good luck, why do you suck at this'. Its a pretty popular YouTube video topic for the tech sphere lately though.
"Back in my day" if a platform or service would look at all your messages and sell the data it would be called active spyware and we treated that like the antichrist.
Software peaked around 2008. And that's a looong time ago now.
Yes there has been a few improvements since then, but nothing that can really be said to compensate for the massive enshittification of performance, basic quality control, UI, UX, pricing as well as the anti-user practices that have become commonplace.
Sad I never got to experience it.
The 2008 financial crises rendered me homeless through my teenage years and my early adult years. I went from experiencing Windows XP/Mac OSX 10.4 straight to Windows 8.1 (I just missed Vista and was quickly introduced to Windows 10).
You missed Windows 7 because you were homeless? Bruh.
Hope you're doing better. At least it's the golden age of Linux right now!
Me being on the family computer running XP and finding porn for the first time around high school age. Learned a lot of things immediately after.
Got caught and lectured.
- So I learned to wipe history and cookies.
- I honestly don't remember anymore how adblockers work back then or it exists. Probably does. But fuck all the fake Download buttons and X to close buttons.
- I learned how and where from to torrent safely eventually.
- became the tech support cleaning all the stupid toolbars. FML
Advertising is the most prolific form of environmental pollution wrought by commerce.
It needs to become as socially acceptable as smoking, and every instance of it must be exhaustively scrutinised and required to be justified.
You mean the people who consume ads get extra work breaks throughout the day?
Thank you. People use power usage against cryptocurrency but their eyes glaze over when I ask how much of our resources are wasted serving constant ads to every screen in existence.
Completely agree. The worst are maybe the nonstop ads for various prescription medications. Those used to be illegal.
I don't think you lot know how old gen Z are, older gen Z are turning 30 next year
I just want you to ask yourself, does putting that information out in the world make anyone's day better. Cmon friend, no one wants to see that.
It's roughly the right ballpark. Yes some of the oldest gen Zs dealt with that era in their childhoods, but by the time they were not depending on their parents to curate their computer, most of them weren't dealing with that reality anymore.
You're off by 3 years
I've a friend who uses chrome on Windows and absolutely refuses to switch to Firefox for ublock. His kid is three and already knows what ads are.
I don't get it.
Yeah those people are absolutely frying their children's brains. I can't imagine not protecting kids against constant notifications or ads.
I think the worst is when parents give their children a phone, but do a really shitty job vetting what apps they install. Like, why did you let your small child install 150 "free" "games" which show two ads every 75 seconds? Are you insane, stupid, evil or all three equally???
My god I am so triggered.
It’s because most people do their browsing on their phone and so when they use a computer browser the internet just looks “normal”
I guess Firefox is some sort of outcast in their eyes, or something like that.
sure kid. for me it would be a long interstate road trip in a car that runs leaded gas, has no A/C and only an AM radio.
I've never even owned a car with A/C. I guess you can't miss what you don't know?
Fedi is great because if you saw as many ads as I see every day on fedi, it meant you had at least one virus, not three.
Life was easy back in the day. People asked me to fix their computer. "I installed Firefox 3.5 and ABP. Life should be good for you now."
Come back years later annnnnnd they have been goaded to use Chrome and have trillions of bullshit apps. Was like "sorry, you have to actually pay me real money to fix this, people in this industry are actually very well compensated"
I remember installing all the stupid search bar add-ons in the 2000s. How naive I was back then! Got to learn things the hard way I guess
Reminded me of this certified hood classic.
Or you're a teenager making fat stacks with multiple ad bars. And by fat stacks, I mean fractions of a cent.
There was an ISP that also gave a discount (or was it free?) if you had the ad bar running. NetZero was it?
I think? or Juno.. one of the dialups.
man I cant believe I remember Juno.. or NetZero.
edit I just looked it up.. NetZero still exists.And is still operating, as a dialup internet provider.
more so.. the company that owns NetZero, also owns Juno.. and owns K-Marts (Americas K-Mart, not Australia's) BlueLight Internet service as well.
Talk about a memory hole
Wow, that's wild. I guess there's still a market for dialup, even in the age of mobile and satellite.
Basically every time America gives huge telecom conglomerates money to expand rural services they literally just steal it and face no consequence whatsoever. It’s such a scam, politicians look good because they vote to spend 400 million dollars to expand rural access, comcast and Verizon take with the promise that in 5-10 years things will be better, then they do nothing hoping people will forget. Even when an expose article is written on the issue American cynicism kicks in and the politicians get away with letting them steal literally hundreds of millions of dollars.
It’s basically money laundering. It’s also a reason rural areas (which already tend to skew republican) have more support for musk, because for a lot of them starlink is the only real option for passable internet, but that’s expensive for internet that is pretty shitty compared to a basic broadband connection. And thus ~20% of rural Americans and almost 30% of Americans on tribal lands have no access to broadband in 2026
It is America, i'm sure theres still places that have nothing but phone lines for access to the outside world.
The whippersnappers think that as long as the ad is coming from someone hot and it's in their FYP, it must not be an ad.
Eh, as a member of Gen Z I remember AOL dialup before we moved to cable, and using Mac os 9 on some of the iMac g3's the school had for reader rabbit/type to learn.
I fondly remember infecting the family XP machine for cursor mania lmao.
Kind of like the modern "Lincoln telegraphing a samurai".
That's the thing: that's still true, it's just that Windows, Chrome and Facebook/IG are all malware, and people (of all generations) seem to fail to process that undeniable fact.


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