ALRIGHT THAT'S THE CORRECT WAY TO CELEBRATE HALLOWEEN, LETS FUCKING GO.
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Flock will be on the alert October 31.
But I have observed you can wear a Halloween costume, including masks, any day starting October 1st without attracting (the bad kind of ) attention or seeming out of place. It's fun, economical (get more use out of costume) and I encourage everyone to do it as often as feasible. Whether you deflock your neighborhood or just provide cover for those who do, you'll also be confusing the cameras and messing with the data.
They can “be on the alert” on Halloween and it wouldn’t matter. Not like they can post a cop at all 200,000 of their cameras.
And then its a national lockdown for a month, no elections mind you, while new cameras are installed nation wide.
I really, really hope people don't go out en masse and destroy every single Flock camera that is unconstitutionally filming and profiling them, because it would be a terrible crime to do so. Definitely do not do this people.
Definitely don't remind people to leave their phones at home or use a Faraday bag to shield their tech.
Indeed. Not having those signals to trace could make it significantly more difficult for law enforcement to identify you, and we certainly don't want the essential job of law enforcement to be inhibited.
Also people shouldn't be wearing masks. That would be make them even harder to identify for law enforcement.
Camera can still track you with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, keep that in mind
It can't if you leave your phone and electronics at home, which you should be anyways.
Only the most dastardly vandals would leave their phone (and all other Bluetooth devices) at home, plugged in charging, auto-lock fully disabled, on their home WiFi, with YouTube set to auto-play a playlist. That would create a watch history that the vandal could later use to prove that they were active at home at the time of the crime. Again, you definitely shouldn’t do that.
they probably are constitutional, but only because the constitution says nothing about tge government buying data from private companies.
yep, flock exists purely to get around the 4th amendment and the requirement to have a warrant.
People are downvoting you, but you’re right. It’s one of the reasons why the constitution is weak in the modern era, and in need of massive additions. It just is too vague, too geared towards a world that no longer exists, and hasn’t existed for over 70 years.
9th amendment.
It's the best amendment, despite being, legally, the most useless.
I would argue that it was meant to cover the kind of situation where a private company is given government permission to gather surveillance data from the citizenry, in exchange for access to said data.
Not American. What is flock? Is this like a ring doorbell? Are people suggesting to destroy personal property of their neighbours?
Or is this like some government cameras that are in public spaces filming ?
Or is this like some government cameras that are in public spaces filming ?
It's a nationwide network of cameras used by federal, state, and local governments to track and profile people in public. It doesn't just record, but builds a database of information on every car, license plate, and person that's filmed, so it's seen to be very dystopian.
Even worse, the tech gets it wrong and mistaken identity is common, and it ends up endangering people due to the violent methods US police employ. However, it's privacy concerns that are foremost, because there's an amendment in our country's Constitution that should prohibit this kind of privacy violation.
If you'd like to learn more, I made a YT video on the topic recently.
don't forget how many of them are just straight up creep cameras, installed pointing at childrens pools, playgrounds, peoples homes, etc.
And this is why calling them “license plate readers” is hugely disingenuous, to the point of being straight up propaganda. The term vastly downplays what they can do. They don’t just scan license plates. They scan nearby devices’ Bluetooth and WiFi signals. They scan faces. They scan gait to determine specific limb proportions. They scan tattoos and birthmarks. They scan bumper stickers, dings/dents, etc… If you walk in front of a camera, it will use every trick in the book to try and figure out who you are specifically.
It's a revenue stream for Flock. Allowing members of the Epstein Class to view the stream of children.
Wild stuff. That is far worse than I thought was going on.
What a scary timeline and I hope the country and sort out this stuff and reform this type activity.
They're not just cameras. They also log nearby mobile devices. They've gone from a few hundred nationwide to over 100,000 in like 2 years.
Uber is going to start implementing the same thing, so mobile Flock that you wouldn't be able to take down.
Government contracted cameras in public spaces.
Not just cameras. They also have RFID, WiFi, Bluetooth, and probably other crap I don't remember. The idea is that even if the face rec doesn't identify you, they still can by probing for credit cards and mobile devices. Disgusting.
Wow. Thanks for informing me. Stay safe guys
I'm dressing as a Flockjack for Halloween! I wouldn't mind Halloween shifting to be an annual purging by the people of government surveillance.
We could just cut out the middle man and purge the rich.
Just spitballing, we could call it, oh i dunno The Purge ^^TM^^ or something.
(Trivia: on windows, alt+0153 will give you the ™ symbol - it's ctrl+shift+u+[some hex string I can't remember] on linux! If you're on mobile, godspeed.)
Unfortunately, alt codes never worked for me because I don't have a numpad. L to all my fellow 80% or smaller keyboard users. Works fine on Linux though, the number is 2122.
Use Faraday pouches or leave your phone at home this Halloween. Flock cams gather Bluetooth, cellular, and WiFi data as you pass by them
It's part of the same issue - lack of US GDPR.
We need to demand US GDPR because there are other issues - companies like Lexis nexis are buying your stolen data from the dark net and reselling. Facebook pervert glasses, google siphoning our data and others we don't even know about
Probably the rock in a shoe trick as well if that's actually a thing.
In my shitty MAGA and evangelical suburb, they welcome Flock.
Even in wealthy 'liberal' neighborhoods they welcome them as well, because they assume they help protect them from 'the poors'.
The data probably shows which conservative religious men are meeting other men regularly for sweaty, breathless one on one 'political discussion'
I would be careful calling this "de-flock" because one of the more prominent groups against Flock is called Deflock and they already get lies from police calling them a terrorist organization despite never advocating for anything like tearing them down. If I really was putting on my tin foil hat, I'd say this was an intentional false flag operation called "de-flock" to further muddy the waters with regards to the Deflock organization. That's a bit much, though.
Note that I'm not saying folks shouldn't be participating, I'm only saying a different name for the activity would be prudent.
C'mon, Americans. We know you guys are cool. We believe in you! Shake this shit off!
Basically we need to get the word out to not use products from those aligned with Trump and thiel.
If I were a teenager I would be playing a very different version of Nicky Nicky Nine Doors.
U got any good alternatives to recommend? I was given a ring camera as a house warming gift, one of the nice flood light cam ones. Want to get away from ring but also don't want to buy more crap LOL but I want to add a camera to the rear of my house and refuse to have ring recording me on my patio nor do I want to up my subscription. Keep migrating toward self hosting my camera system as the best solution but fuck I also don't have the time to go setting that up right now ... Rambling here but in search of good advice 🙏
Yeah this is always been my problem. I kind of do want CCTV cameras on my house because I do live in a sort of high crime area, but I don't see why I should have to pay a subscription to a company just so they can train an AI on my camera footage.
ReoLink appears to keeps things off the cloud. But their doorbell cameras do not support rtsp or anything, its something proprietary. But regardless, they appear to use some form of ddns to allow the camera to stream directly to your phone without going through the cloud.
Why wait 2 months? Just do it whenever it's convenient.
It's a night you can freely walk round with a mask on
Just don't forget to leave any electronic devices at home.
You could just wrap your phone in tinfoil, but there is an exact way that you have to do it. If you have ever been somewhere remote without signal, your phone will nuke it's battery trying to find signal by increasing the antenna's power. You have to put it in airplane mode to save your battery. Not matter what you do, even turning your phone off, the antenna will be live sending some signal. The takeaway is that even with a hacky Faraday cage, your phone will try it's hardest to phone home and could win with a tiny tear in the foil.
Honestly just easier to leave it at home. Or in your vehicle, assuming you didn't pass by the camera on your way, and leave it sufficiently far enough away. I doubt they can read RFID from cards yet, even at a close enough distance to cut the pole down, but might want to leave those at home as well.
Leaving the electronics at home also seems easier to explain in case you're stopped, compared to trying to explain why you have a phone wrapped in tinfoil in your pocket.
Why is it so hard for people to just leave their electronics at home?
Looking at ICE, any night is.
I really feel like you could astroturf MAGA rednecks into destroying flock cams with the right propaganda campaign. And probably a bunch of other shit they think they believe in. But there are conservative think tanks already engaged in this type of online propaganda pushing them in the other direction.
All of their media makes up fears that they will be robbed, car jacked, shot, or have to answer to a supervisor of a different gender or race than you.
Bullshit like flock cameras, more police, and ICE are obvious answer when their pea brains are soaked in fear hormones every waking hour.
I also heard that people are focusing on a Spiderman costume in particular. It’ll be popular since the movie just came out and it has full face coverage. You can also order a size larger and wear extra clothes to hide your real body size.
Tips on how to protect yourselves when you have to, you know.
Masks, camouflage outfits park somewhere far?
Flock is approved for drones 🤦🏻♂️
https://www.flocksafety.com/products/flock-aerodome-drone-as-automated-security
https://www.budk.com/12-Gauge-Skynet-Drone-Defense-3-Pack-35975/35975.html
Thankfully capitalists still willing to sell ya the rope to hang them with.
We had millions in the streets for NO KINGS. Your telling me we can't get 80k Flock/Axon cameras down.
Americans rediscover the origins Carnival and Saturnalia.
Guessing you mean:
During these festivities, there was a temporary release from social obligations and hierarchies to make way for the overthrow of order, joking and debauchery.
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Which is... yeah, the whole origins of "trick-or-treat". Not sure it quite needs rediscovering.
Time to invest in Sawzall and blade manufacturers.



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