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[–] 79 points 2 months ago (23 children)

Immich is a better alternative to Google Photo

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    I recently made the jump. It's crazy how much effort goes into optimising Nextcloud it still remains the most demanding thing on your server and your sanity.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Hot take. Nextcloud is hot garbage. If you want file sync use Seafile. So so so so much faster and more resource efficient. For the rest of next cloud functionality just use a tool specific to that.

    Nextcloud is still tied to the old php/fpm model. There are better approaches now days. Hell even owncloud is rewriting away from the php/fpm approach.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    This is exactly what I did. I replaced it with a Immich, a webdav client, and an xmpp server (prosody). I only needed online storage for phone photo access/backup and syncing my keepass DB and contacts. I set these apps up once and now I don't need to touch them.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Nextcloud is great but too often it's compared to Google Drive instead of Google Workspace (as seen here). If all you need is cloud storage, use Owncloud (Nextcloud upstream) or any of a thousand similar tools (I use Cloudreve). If you need a full office suite, use Nextcloud.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    The problem is not php-fpm, the problem is when people who perform as SysAdmin dont know how to tweak it properly.

    I deploy Nextcloud instances for production environments. :/

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Why would I need to tweak it when what I ran was provided by Nextcloud as a complete package?

    I've also never used a commercial Nextcloud host that has acceptable performance.

    If they are providing their AIO Nextcloud unoptimized that's even more of a reason to dislike it.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I am just about to start experimenting with opencloud.eu. It is another developer revolt fork of Opencloud (this time their infinite scale project) so it is supposed to be a lightweight single binary that uses a real filesystem and no database at all. Lacks all the add ons of nextcloud, buy I am tired of maintaining it.

    Anyone try it?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Setup is incredibly bad. They have a very very strict set of parameters to be able to log in at all. I have pretty much given up OK it as there is no way for me to log in for the first time with default admin credentials. It simply doesn't accept the states environment variables on docker and you get 1 attempt to log in before it gets stuck in a loop and you have to purge the image and every volume and file to get a second attempt.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Yep, though I have a bug in my use case from a older version, and I still didn’t have the time to try the new stable version. I also translated the Docker compose for the project and extensions into .container files. In the newer version it seems they managed to remove a sidecar container.

    So far, it runs on a VPS with a 4-core and 8GB of RAM. On a first run, after upgrading, it needed swap as the system started freezing and the OOM killer stopped the program, zram was enough in my case.

    Besides the main container — and the sidecar — I used the Collabora container, LDAP for user management, Keycloak for auth, full Tika for OCR search — modified for my language — and Radicale. Mind you, most probably want the main container and the online office container, be it EuroOffice, Collabora or OnlyOffice.

    Here is the memory usage and CPU usage on standby from podman stats:

    NAME                       MEM USAGE / LIMIT  CPU %
    systemd-tika               175MB / 8.054GB    0.68%
    caddy                      43.35MB / 8.054GB  0.24%
    systemd-ldap               67.08MB / 8.054GB  0.01%
    radicale                   2.425MB / 8.054GB  0.00%
    syncthing                  29.97MB / 8.054GB  0.21%
    systemd-keycloak-postgres  41.12MB / 8.054GB  0.06%
    systemd-keycloak           663.4MB / 8.054GB  0.75%
    systemd-collabora          42.02MB / 8.054GB  0.27%
    systemd-opencloud          883.4MB / 8.054GB  7.31%
    systemd-collaboration      57.71MB / 8.054GB  0.31%
    
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  • [–] [S] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    tried it, but i couldnt figure out how to add my existing photos in the way i had organised them: /year/event/photo.jpeg and nextcloud made it pretty easy

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Both Google Photo and Immich, treat all images individually. And assume that any grouping is done a Tag/ album level. Regardless of file name or hierarchy.

    If you what to show your “event” in the UI, you would need to run a onetime script and amend album with the name of parent folder.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Immich is for phones only apparently.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Having never heard of it and only used the Aurora Store (recently without any issues), what does App Lounge have going for it?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    I haven't heard of it either. Looks like it maybe has additional features built on top of Aurora Store. At first glance, App Lounge seems very unintuitive to install. I think I'll stick with Aurora Store for now.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Isn't the aurora store not updated anymore? Or is that just their fdroid store alternative?

    For FOSS programs I use Neostore which is quite good.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    The Aurora Store is still updated, they just had a rewrite of their UI a few weeks ago. Their F-droid client had stopped getting updates in 2021 but recently work has resumed with a new 2.0 version, so both are currently supported actively

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Very good for you! I can't change a lot of things cause, school, family, or i don't understand the tech behind it, but it's good to see other people protecting there own privacy!

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    yeah switching away from whatsapp is impossible. i only got my parents to switch lol

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I have been waging a war of attrition getting people to switch onto Signal. After 5 years I've managed to get my spouse, my sister, my mother, 6 of my friends, 6 of my coworkers, and one sports team I play on to begin using it. Only real holdouts are my in-laws, two of my friends I talk to regularly, and another sports team or two. Some I've wooed off of basic texting, others off of WhatsApp. It's been a long hard road, but at this point, I would estimate about 85% of my communications happen over Signal now. Keep fighting the good fight

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    The ignorant will never switch if even the informed don't make the move.

    Delete it. Inform those you regularly contact that they can contact you via Signal, email, whatever, but that you don't have WhatsApp any more.

    The only way to break the network effect of WhatsApp is to leave the network.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Because of the restrictions put on popular messengers in my country, I was able to move my whole family including my 80 year old grandma over to ArcaneChat. It's weird, but I literally almost never use proprietary messengers now...

    It also goes to show how censorship greatly accelerates mass adoption of FLOSS tools.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    It is a good list. Everyone will have their own personal preferences, but I think overall the list is good.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    unfortunately every foss maps app I've tried has been subpar. all the ones based on open street maps can't even go to proper addresses, it takes you to the street and you just have to look around for it. at least here in the us. so far magic earth has been better but it still doesn't work with Public transit so I have to have a separate maps app in my private space anyways.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    also, not to get nitpicky (I promise) but hasn't /e/os criticized people for wanting privacy and security and said it's for criminals? which I found very ironic of them given their own operating system

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Not really. Their CEO has said that privacy and keeping data away from big tech is their priority and security, while important, is not the tip of the spear for them.

    He phrased it poorly ("we're not developing a phone so a paedophile can evade justice") but people immediately misrepresented it as "The only people who care about security are paedos and crims". Graphene went hard on them with a big FUD campaign that got a lot of people upset. All he meant was that people with very extreme threat models would be better looking elsewhere.

    Very much a storm in a teacup.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Not all, I use Cartes (French, OpenSource) which is pretty complete. GPS, public transport, bicycle, by feet, distances, restaurants, shops, administrations, etc.. One of the most complete I found, it use Data, apart from OSM, also from NASA, Mapl and Citybic.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    im completely within the proton eco system, the only reason for my 2fa not being proton is because i made this choice before proton had a 2fa app and i didnt want to bother importing everything

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  • [+] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not sure Lemmy belongs in this list. Isn't all the content posted here fully visible to anyone, anywhere?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Yeah social media on a privacy list is a bit odd. I think the point is a lemmy instance (probably) won't log your IP and report you to the feds for any cool flock activities you have going on (but don't quote me on that).

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  • [–] 31 points 2 months ago (23 children)

    For me, I would personally make the adjustment:

    chatgpt ---> NOTHING

    I'd rather go my whole life with people ridiculing me for not using genAI then hand over my status as a person to any form of genAI.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 months ago (17 children)

    Do you feel that way about the other algorithms you do use? Nearly all code we do use was compiled and the compiler makes it's own decisions on how to convert abstract code into assembly or binary. Do you have anything against machines making decisions on that conversion?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Compilers ain't a problem for me. Compilers aren't enabling people to claim writing they never wrote as their own so they can sell "books". Compliers aren't generating false information on purpose in order to trick me because it was built to be a gaslighting yes man¹. Compilers aren't deleting anything from certain files to whole directories¹ off my system unless I tell them to.

    I don't have to worry about a compiler trying to steal all my data¹ in order to please braindead C-suites trying to replace all humans with clankers. So I have zero issues with a good genAI free compiler.

    ¹ unless they have been compromised/my system has been infected

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    I mean it does allow people to claim code they didn't necessarily write is there's. It seems that your issues aren't to do with LLMs fundamentally but specific use cases some individuals have chosen. Like you don't fundamentally have an issue with the algorithm itself.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I will concede on the algorithm. Can't get too mad at advanced maths, but I can get mad at the lazy people using it for nefarious purposes or just because they're lazy.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago*

    I mean may as well say you're mad at the internet because people use it for nefarious purposes as well. This is usually what I find about all these debates around AI and LLMs or NNs. It's more so people being legitimately upset at actions taken by some individuals or companies more so than any hatred for the technology itself but they conflate the two effortlessly. Like we're aware of how strange it sounds in different cases when that's done but for some reason with AI most don't see this issue in their argument.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    What the hell are you talking about. Compilers do not insert code that wasn't put there. Now if your saying well you wrote C and the machine is running assembler then you are a moron.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    If I'm a moron then so is Linus Torvalds since I literally stole the analogy from him. Generally speaking though these are all just algorithms and the issues people have aren't about this particular algorithm but the ways in which some people or companies are using the algorithm. It's a bit like saying you hate the internet because some people use the internet to do very harmful things.

    Here's another

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Not everyone use llm's for programming.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    I have a feeling you didn't understand the question I was asking. Ilms are just one type of algorithm and data structure. There's other algorithms nearly all programers use to compile symbolic code Into assembly or machine code (binary), they're called compilers. Anyone who isn't writing assembly or machine code directly is likely using a compiler.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (6 children)

    Your question is confusing to me, I know what compilers are but I'm not sure how that is super related to llm's. I was just saying that people use llm's for reasons aside from generating code.

    ooh wait nevermind, I realise what you meant now. Your comparing compilers to llm's since they both are algorithms that turn an input into an output. Is this what you meant?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    I got the comparison from Linus Torvalds talk but yes and depending on the compiler and it's use the output might not be so deterministic. More accurate to the point I'm actually making is is that these are all algorithms and the issues people have with AI isn't anything about the algorithms or the technology itself but the ways in which some people and companies are using it. May as well say you hate the internet because some people and some companies are using it to do very harmful things.

    Here's another

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Interesting, I can see how the idea that llm's are just another layer of abstraction like compilers. Although this doesn't really justify using them and that unfunny joke of "I bet your code was written by a compiler" just doesn't really make sense. It's not like we should start writing all our code in python, for example.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    What would justify using them? For many I talk to they have an irrational hatred because of how some people and companies have used them so now it's like a prejudice. That is not matter what they dislike neural networks

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    🔥🔥 Well done! It is a fun journey right :) I'm still enjoying discovering better alternatives

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  • [–] 36 points 2 months ago (18 children)

    My only major change would be to remove Mullvad.

    One of the founders has made major donations to far-right groups in Sweden. People have argues that it’s his money to donate, but if paying for Mullvad puts money into the pockets of a major donor to the far-right, I’d rather support an alternative provider.

    I have had a very similar user experience with IVPN, and I have heard people suggest AirVPN as a similar alternative.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    As someone else started it's worth noting that Mullvad themselves did not donate to anything. I understand people's argument that money to Mullvad goes to the founder and thus goes to the people they donate to and that was people's argument for Proton as well. So do what you will as it's everyone's personal preference.

    That's why lists like these, while useful for those who are just looking into privacy, deGoogle, etc. to first learn of projects and services, are almost always lacking nuance without text or all the major alternatives where then people can choose based on their beliefs. 🙂

    Note: I understand this is one person's list and not a general list but just stating my thoughts on the matter as a whole.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    Why not Proton as well? The CEO is not any better.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    They haven't donated to political parties, have they? That would have been big news I'm pretty sure I would have seen.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Not aware of donations, but Proton's CEO was glazing Trump around the start of his second term.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Yes, claiming that the GOP was “for the little guy” And would do antitrust on big tech.

    Some people are gullible as fuck, man. Anyway I would trust Mullvad over proton as far as privacy and security goes - it’s just too bad I don’t want my money going there.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Do you consider a post supporting a Trump policy to be as bad as being the largest donor to a far-right party?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I don’t see a difference honestly, plus you know there is underhand contributions going on.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    I'm not aware of any underhand contributions. What might you be referring to?

    I strongly believe it's perfectly reasonable to compliment a generally evil person/people when they do a good thing, but hey, my opinions are boring.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Tbf, when it comes to email services at least, your only real alternative for Proton is Mailbox.org if you use IMAP/SMTP. When it comes to Mullvad, there's plenty of VPNs as an alternative. Plus, apparently Mullvad has lost talent in light of the controversy so their VPN might degrade in quality anyway, so there's also that

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Oh, they upgraded the standard to 5 devices. I think it was just 2 in the past, which made it far more expensive than Mullvad.

    Edit: One large thing missing compared to Mullvad is the proxy-based browser extension for Firefox. It let's you select different exit server either for everything in browser, per domain, or randomize server selection per domain.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    So recently I’ve tried finding an alternative but when researching deeper into them I just found worse shit than mullvad. Like AirVPN having their servers seized.

    For what it’s worth, I think mullvad is still the best option and worse case scenario you’re donating less than $5 to nazis which is like 2 hamburgers.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    That’s two more hamburgers than any Nazi deserves, especially on a recurring payment plan.

    I also don’t know if failing to disclose the seizure of a server (that contained no readable user data) is worse than supporting the far right. It also feels like if that’s enough to end your search for an alternative, you weren’t searching very hard.

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