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Having never heard of it and only used the Aurora Store (recently without any issues), what does App Lounge have going for it?
I haven't heard of it either. Looks like it maybe has additional features built on top of Aurora Store. At first glance, App Lounge seems very unintuitive to install. I think I'll stick with Aurora Store for now.
Its the default of /e/os and only meant to be used with it. Its based on the Aurora library that allows access to google play apps and combines it with their own mirror of the main F-droid repo
idk, its just aurora + f-droid imo. its just the default for /e/os phones
Isn't the aurora store not updated anymore? Or is that just their fdroid store alternative?
For FOSS programs I use Neostore which is quite good.
Very good for you! I can't change a lot of things cause, school, family, or i don't understand the tech behind it, but it's good to see other people protecting there own privacy!
yeah switching away from whatsapp is impossible. i only got my parents to switch lol
I have been waging a war of attrition getting people to switch onto Signal. After 5 years I've managed to get my spouse, my sister, my mother, 6 of my friends, 6 of my coworkers, and one sports team I play on to begin using it. Only real holdouts are my in-laws, two of my friends I talk to regularly, and another sports team or two. Some I've wooed off of basic texting, others off of WhatsApp. It's been a long hard road, but at this point, I would estimate about 85% of my communications happen over Signal now. Keep fighting the good fight
The ignorant will never switch if even the informed don't make the move.
Delete it. Inform those you regularly contact that they can contact you via Signal, email, whatever, but that you don't have WhatsApp any more.
The only way to break the network effect of WhatsApp is to leave the network.
Not impossible, I haven’t used WhatsApp since being bought by Facebook.
Because of the restrictions put on popular messengers in my country, I was able to move my whole family including my 80 year old grandma over to ArcaneChat. It's weird, but I literally almost never use proprietary messengers now...
It also goes to show how censorship greatly accelerates mass adoption of FLOSS tools.
It is a good list. Everyone will have their own personal preferences, but I think overall the list is good.
unfortunately every foss maps app I've tried has been subpar. all the ones based on open street maps can't even go to proper addresses, it takes you to the street and you just have to look around for it. at least here in the us. so far magic earth has been better but it still doesn't work with Public transit so I have to have a separate maps app in my private space anyways.
also, not to get nitpicky (I promise) but hasn't /e/os criticized people for wanting privacy and security and said it's for criminals? which I found very ironic of them given their own operating system
Not really. Their CEO has said that privacy and keeping data away from big tech is their priority and security, while important, is not the tip of the spear for them.
He phrased it poorly ("we're not developing a phone so a paedophile can evade justice") but people immediately misrepresented it as "The only people who care about security are paedos and crims". Graphene went hard on them with a big FUD campaign that got a lot of people upset. All he meant was that people with very extreme threat models would be better looking elsewhere.
Very much a storm in a teacup.
Yes they have. It's also very late to security updates and is mostly just Lineage plus their own cloud services.
Not all, I use Cartes (French, OpenSource) which is pretty complete. GPS, public transport, bicycle, by feet, distances, restaurants, shops, administrations, etc.. One of the most complete I found, it use Data, apart from OSM, also from NASA, Mapl and Citybic.

im completely within the proton eco system, the only reason for my 2fa not being proton is because i made this choice before proton had a 2fa app and i didnt want to bother importing everything

I'm not sure Lemmy belongs in this list. Isn't all the content posted here fully visible to anyone, anywhere?
For me, I would personally make the adjustment:
chatgpt ---> NOTHING
I'd rather go my whole life with people ridiculing me for not using genAI then hand over my status as a person to any form of genAI.
Im fine with local only, but theres so many people that just vomit out exactly what claude says.
Well that is good we don't have Gen AI yet if ever. I can't imagine how bad that well be look at what the shut we have now has caused.
yeah, imo search engines have gone completely to shit. and sometimes AI is literally the only way to find certain things without wasting a lot of time. but i do try to use it as little as possible
Do you feel that way about the other algorithms you do use? Nearly all code we do use was compiled and the compiler makes it's own decisions on how to convert abstract code into assembly or binary. Do you have anything against machines making decisions on that conversion?
Compilers ain't a problem for me. Compilers aren't enabling people to claim writing they never wrote as their own so they can sell "books". Compliers aren't generating false information on purpose in order to trick me because it was built to be a gaslighting yes man¹. Compilers aren't deleting anything from certain files to whole directories¹ off my system unless I tell them to.
I don't have to worry about a compiler trying to steal all my data¹ in order to please braindead C-suites trying to replace all humans with clankers. So I have zero issues with a good genAI free compiler.
¹ unless they have been compromised/my system has been infected
I mean it does allow people to claim code they didn't necessarily write is there's. It seems that your issues aren't to do with LLMs fundamentally but specific use cases some individuals have chosen. Like you don't fundamentally have an issue with the algorithm itself.
I will concede on the algorithm. Can't get too mad at advanced maths, but I can get mad at the lazy people using it for nefarious purposes or just because they're lazy.
I mean may as well say you're mad at the internet because people use it for nefarious purposes as well. This is usually what I find about all these debates around AI and LLMs or NNs. It's more so people being legitimately upset at actions taken by some individuals or companies more so than any hatred for the technology itself but they conflate the two effortlessly. Like we're aware of how strange it sounds in different cases when that's done but for some reason with AI most don't see this issue in their argument.
What the hell are you talking about. Compilers do not insert code that wasn't put there. Now if your saying well you wrote C and the machine is running assembler then you are a moron.
If I'm a moron then so is Linus Torvalds since I literally stole the analogy from him. Generally speaking though these are all just algorithms and the issues people have aren't about this particular algorithm but the ways in which some people or companies are using the algorithm. It's a bit like saying you hate the internet because some people use the internet to do very harmful things.
Not everyone use llm's for programming.
I have a feeling you didn't understand the question I was asking. Ilms are just one type of algorithm and data structure. There's other algorithms nearly all programers use to compile symbolic code Into assembly or machine code (binary), they're called compilers. Anyone who isn't writing assembly or machine code directly is likely using a compiler.
Your question is confusing to me, I know what compilers are but I'm not sure how that is super related to llm's. I was just saying that people use llm's for reasons aside from generating code.
ooh wait nevermind, I realise what you meant now. Your comparing compilers to llm's since they both are algorithms that turn an input into an output. Is this what you meant?
I got the comparison from Linus Torvalds talk but yes and depending on the compiler and it's use the output might not be so deterministic. More accurate to the point I'm actually making is is that these are all algorithms and the issues people have with AI isn't anything about the algorithms or the technology itself but the ways in which some people and companies are using it. May as well say you hate the internet because some people and some companies are using it to do very harmful things.
Interesting, I can see how the idea that llm's are just another layer of abstraction like compilers. Although this doesn't really justify using them and that unfunny joke of "I bet your code was written by a compiler" just doesn't really make sense. It's not like we should start writing all our code in python, for example.
What would justify using them? For many I talk to they have an irrational hatred because of how some people and companies have used them so now it's like a prejudice. That is not matter what they dislike neural networks
The guy is an idiot and is comparing compilers to llms.
If I'm an idiot then so is Linus Torvalds the creator or the Linux kernel.
But that is not the same. I can compile the same code with the same compiler and get the exact same code. This is not true of AI.
Analogies don't have to be one to one. I originally got this analogy from Linus Torvalds
🔥🔥 Well done! It is a fun journey right :) I'm still enjoying discovering better alternatives
My only major change would be to remove Mullvad.
One of the founders has made major donations to far-right groups in Sweden. People have argues that it’s his money to donate, but if paying for Mullvad puts money into the pockets of a major donor to the far-right, I’d rather support an alternative provider.
I have had a very similar user experience with IVPN, and I have heard people suggest AirVPN as a similar alternative.
As someone else started it's worth noting that Mullvad themselves did not donate to anything. I understand people's argument that money to Mullvad goes to the founder and thus goes to the people they donate to and that was people's argument for Proton as well. So do what you will as it's everyone's personal preference.
That's why lists like these, while useful for those who are just looking into privacy, deGoogle, etc. to first learn of projects and services, are almost always lacking nuance without text or all the major alternatives where then people can choose based on their beliefs. 🙂
Note: I understand this is one person's list and not a general list but just stating my thoughts on the matter as a whole.
Why not Proton as well? The CEO is not any better.
They haven't donated to political parties, have they? That would have been big news I'm pretty sure I would have seen.
Not aware of donations, but Proton's CEO was glazing Trump around the start of his second term.
Yes, claiming that the GOP was “for the little guy” And would do antitrust on big tech.
Some people are gullible as fuck, man. Anyway I would trust Mullvad over proton as far as privacy and security goes - it’s just too bad I don’t want my money going there.
Do you consider a post supporting a Trump policy to be as bad as being the largest donor to a far-right party?
I don’t see a difference honestly, plus you know there is underhand contributions going on.
Tbf, when it comes to email services at least, your only real alternative for Proton is Mailbox.org if you use IMAP/SMTP. When it comes to Mullvad, there's plenty of VPNs as an alternative. Plus, apparently Mullvad has lost talent in light of the controversy so their VPN might degrade in quality anyway, so there's also that
What about Tuta?
Tuta does not support the use of third-party email clients or the protocols IMAP/POP3/SMTP as we cannot guarantee end-to-end encryption of your data.
Tuta also syncs terribly. Often when I open the app, the latest email are from weeks ago. And you can't swipe down to refresh. I paid for a year, and quickly gave up within a month.
Oh, they upgraded the standard to 5 devices. I think it was just 2 in the past, which made it far more expensive than Mullvad.
Edit: One large thing missing compared to Mullvad is the proxy-based browser extension for Firefox. It let's you select different exit server either for everything in browser, per domain, or randomize server selection per domain.
So recently I’ve tried finding an alternative but when researching deeper into them I just found worse shit than mullvad. Like AirVPN having their servers seized.
For what it’s worth, I think mullvad is still the best option and worse case scenario you’re donating less than $5 to nazis which is like 2 hamburgers.
That’s two more hamburgers than any Nazi deserves, especially on a recurring payment plan.
I also don’t know if failing to disclose the seizure of a server (that contained no readable user data) is worse than supporting the far right. It also feels like if that’s enough to end your search for an alternative, you weren’t searching very hard.
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