Not to undermine your point, dental services are still kinda expensive for regular people, but this is also Tijuana, a border city where stuff is more expensive.

And that dental clinic probably inflates their prices since they provably service a number of foreigners.

Sure, but 21,000 usd as he was quoted is closer to the average annual salary in America. So it's still disgustingly more affordable for a local Mexican to afford their own dental care.

That's helpful context. So all that for about 1 months salary in Mexico. Meanwhile the USA estimate was multiple months salary. Looks like about 4-5 months for the average American.

Walking into a hospital in America is a month of work for me before they even do anything and i make good money for an American.

plenty of people in the US live off that same amount

Yeah that's what I expected. Yes we're being fleeced in America, but also low cost of living, lower wages, and cheaper education can all drastically reduce the price of dentistry

Guess what, that's also roughly a months salary for some people in the US too. Not only do we have shitty healthcare but we also have shit wages.

US minimum wage $7.25 x 160 hours = $1160.

Millenials are destroying the American healthcare invdustry by dropping dead before they'd see a doctor. TRAITORS

It boggles the mind that anyone could defend our current medical system, let alone our dental system. Even with dental insurance, you're lucky to get more than 50% covered for these type of procedures and there is an annual payout cap which even a root canal and crowns can hit. A single implants in the US will cost much more than this guy claims to have spent.

There are working class people out there with the boot so far down their throat they will get angry at anyone pointing to how ridiculous of a world we live in.

"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

Same old, same old it seems.

It's so funny the town is called "The Cottons". I imagine the cotton balls dentists use, haha.

Thank you, I was going to mention that too. "Molar City".

And these people will do it to every country if not stopped.

Years ago I worked out the math for a doctor to rent all his own equipment ( including MRI! ), pay for full time staff including accountants etc. and the money still didn't add up.

If doctors actually were paid $1,000/hr for their time, I'd understand because at least they are doing the labor. But that's not what is happening. Insurance companies are taking the profit.

I have yet to meet anyone in healthcare that will admit those kinds of fees are wrong.

Oh the irony (and hypocrisy) is fucking thick, my guy.

My MAGA father-in-law wants to end abortion rights for all Americans in all cases. But when confronted by my wife that her and the rest of his 4 daughters might find their life in danger from an Ectopic pregnancy or other dangerous medical condition in which the only remedy is terminating a pregnancy, he calmly assured her that if they needed an abortion he'd fly them out of the country to get them one (but also the American Healthcare System is still the best in the world, btw). Meanwhile, he and those like him disparage those moving the US seeking opportunities and safety for their families instead of staying fixing their country that WE largely are responsible for destabilizing and putting into poverty.

And he doesn't put stock in us being held responsible for the state of those nations as the things we did to them happened decades ago (for the most part). Also he doesn't believe that Native Americans should have any claim to lands within the US or any sovereignty under US law. In unrelated matters, though, Isreal has a right to those lands because they were stolen from them thousands of years ago, and they can and should have a one state rule over the region and people there despite other people living there already, and also it is totally cool that they get put under a decades long blockade because those people voted a group into power that opposed their occupation, and they do not have a right to resist this blockade or occupation in an way with force.

If you are looking for consistent, thoughtful policy positions, I'm afraid the modern American Right has little to provide you.

Unfortunately the people who you should be bigoted against aren't leaving.

The fact is that the people of the U.S. that are stuck here need help. Desperately, as the walls are closing in faster than they ever have.

No one is stopping you.

They're trying to bring it to all "western" countries. The US ideology is being pushed hard everywhere in order for US firms to come in and start monetising everything (among which, health, of course).

USians shit on lots of countries, you're going to have to narrow it down

part of why they are so highly paid is that malpractice can go after almost all of their assets and medical school/residency enrollment slots are federally capped.

blame the government for not having anti trust lawsuits against the medical equipment and for having caps on how many people can become doctors per year.

Add 5% on the bill for chauffeur treatment.

The exchange rate just gives you their “top tier” experience.

I have dental insurance and it's near-fucking-worthless for this level of work (which I've had a lot of in the last few years). It pays only a small percentage of the costs and the payout is capped at $1500 per year, nowhere near enough to cover the cost of a single implant. I wouldn't even bother having the insurance in the first place but it's a free benefit provided by my employer.

Chain dentists are a fucking abomination, though. You're guaranteed to get work you don't actually need because of the corporate pressures they're under to generate revenue.

I'm willing to bet the majority of Americans have no idea Mexico has affordable healthcare. Propaganda is a bitch

Is it really so hard to believe that something like that can cost so low and maybe not be shoddy? In EU you get low cost and higher cost countries and ofc it differs, but overall that cost mentioned in the post is imho reasonable.

A filling material capsule is about $5.

Amalgam or cement? I pay around 70€ for the material of a ceramic filling.

The Australian Dental Association are fucking scum who have successfully fought and bribed for Medicare to exclude dental

A pox upon them for their greed and avarice, at the expense of the health of the many

The link between poor dental health and cardiac disease is quite remarkable

There are too many dentists willing to accept increased mortality in the population as a whole, just so they can get richer

Fuck 'em with a wire brush

Moving my comment to the first level comments.

21k is probably excessive

Gee, you think?

I’m pretty sure we’re reading an ad for a Tijuana based gastric bypass doctor lol.

There should be a distinction between posts written by humans, and those written by AI. Political discussions should be for humans, not robots.

If this person wanted to make a comparison between dental prices, they could've written it out themselves. But instead the relied on an AI. That's not innovation, that's laziness!

Today, online discussions are broken – you can't know which comments are written by humans any more. Luckily we have people like you who can tell the difference.

Disclaimer: This post was written by a human.

Hate to break it to you, but humans have been using the em-dash since before AI existed. AI output is modeled after effective communicators, and those people still exist.

Yeah, I don't know; is it even true, then?

Seems rather to be the LinkedIn style, with barely more than a short sentence per paragraph, and infused with the unmistakable pathos that feels a bit reserved but is definitely too pompous for business talk.

The formatting is similar to the BBC style aka modern news sites, but idk why it got adopted on LinkedIn when posters are presumably not paid per ad impression.