Its also had how many recalls
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I like how people don't hate it because its electric, they hate it because it's objectively terrible. Maybe if it didn't stink like a dead nazi, people would buy it.
Biggest takeaway; the media is still in denial.
The media is still in denial receiving money from the right.
To be more generous, if you don't have a legal team on your editorial staff in your section, just don't mention the politics of billionaires.
Musk et al the 1%ers have lawyers on retainer whose only job is to litigate every mention of their name.
Early reviews raised red flags over software glitches, poor fit and finish, and disappointing range for a vehicle of its size.
That's the only sentence acknowledging the MANY mechanical failures, too.
The range was fine for a mall crawler. If it sold enough for Tesla to build that extended battery, it would have had by far the most towing range for those who need it.
I don’t think initial quality and range were a real problem. T was the delay, the looks, the price over what was announced. But definitely its fate was sealed by musks disastrous foray into politics
Eh. Even if Musk still had his Iron Man in real life image the cyber truck would still be a complete failure.
Saying it's a shitty car and a failure by only looking at it as a car seems like good journalism. This isn't a good product that failed because people don't like Musk anymore.
They go from Zero to 1939 faster than one can ask Grok what time it is.
I don't think anyone credible sincerely thought the cyber truck was going to do well
It's a vehicle for stupid people with too much money to toss around or stupid people without money that are so caught up in the culture war trash they're willing to go into debt to make a really dumb statement.
When it was first proposed, it sounded like a great idea. Rust proof, no paint, secure bed area, hard wearing and easily cleaned interior, and very competitively priced.
Of course, that's not the vehicle that was delivered.
I wonder, when they hit 88 Mph, does one transport back in time to apartheid South Africa?
If they go faster than 60 the wheels fall off
It’s a fair question. The whole 88 mph thing from back to the future was a joke because no one thought a delorian could go that fast.
Pretty sure the joke was 88 is a common Nazi code. Eight letter in the alphabet is alphabet is ‘h’ - it’s “HH” which stands for the obvious.
14 is another one. When MyPillow had a sale for $14.88, there was a reason for it…
I doubt the BttF writers were making a Hitler reference
But I figured the OP in the comment chain was.
I think OP was making a BttF reference.
"We're gonna see some serious shit. ...Wait, this is a bit too serious."
I mean at least the Segway was built well
The owner of the Segway company managed to Segway themself off a cliff and died. I'm hoping history will repeat itself.
That wasn’t the man who created the Segway though. The inventor & original owner is Dean Kamen. The company was sold to Jimi Heselden in 2009, and it’s Heselden who rode one off a cliff a year later.
Important to note, not the inventor of the Segway, Dean Kamen - he’s still alive. Just the guy who bought the company from him. Kamen seems to be a pretty cool guy, most of his inventions were about accessibility.
Driving a Cybercuck is a great way to tell society you're the village idiot.
I think Musk drew this thing on the back of an envelope and forced it through to production against the protests and objections of everybody in Tesla. It sucks as a truck, it sucks as an EV, it costs way too much money, it's so dangerous that it is banned in most of the world, it's impractical, costly to repair, uninsurable and it falls to bits. It's no wonder the thing failed.
It’s the delorian of our time. Go ahead and use it for the remake of back to the future.
I think you're catching downvotes cause most people now think the DeLorean was cool because of the movies.
They don't realize it flopped due to being insanely heavy, overheating, and other mechanical problems. Really expensive, as well. Also, the whole thing with the owner being busted for a massive amount of cocaine.
The parallels are actually pretty funny and you're not wrong.
Except it does still look cool. It's just that the drivetrain sucked. If I even got one, I'd replace it with an EV drivetrain. There's pretty good options now. You don't even have to pull parts from a totaled Tesla anymore.
John DeLorean also got acquitted on the drug trafficking charges when it was found he was entrapped.
To be fair I'm pretty sure the delorean was supposed to have a Ford V8, but supplier bailed last minute and left them scrambling. Thus the anemic puegot v6 it wound up with ..
Marty even comments on the Doc's choice in the movie.
If only weighs 2800lbs and most of the mechanical problems were sorted out quickly in production. The financial crash, high interest rates, negative publicity from the drug trial, and the election of Margaret Thatcher as British PM killed the company. It was a “death by 1000 cuts” situation.
It was in the same weight range as what Ferrari was putting out at the time. Those stainless steel panels are very thin sheets over fiberglass. They don't add as much weight as you'd think.
Most of the other issues were fixed by VIN 3000, but their reputation was set by then. Getting framed by the FBI in a drug sting didn't help, either. It has a lot of very thoughtful features, like a gull wing door design that only comes out 11" and won't hit the car parked next to you.
It got caught up in a bunch of regulatory changes that were happening the late 70s/early 80s. Just a bad time to start a new car company, or to make a sports car at all. There aren't many memorable cars from the time period for anything other than looks.
I remember watching the director commentary on the first movie and they made a joke about the 88 mph thing because the car could barely do it. If I recall the later car in the films was a Volvo underneath.
I didn't know that about the Volvo, that's pretty funny. Means it was cheaper and easier to do a body swap than try and keep one properly running. Maybe it was just that hard to get parts.
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/so-where-are-all-the-remaining-back-to-the-future-deloreans/
A bit more info.
And for Part III, Universal built the so-called “Oxnard car,” fitted with train wheels for use in the rail scenes, along with two DeLoreans on sand rail chassis and with Volkswagen engines and transaxles for the off-road driving scenes.
Walser said that all the cars retained their original PRV V-6s
I had to look up a sand rail chasis. I'm more of a machine guy than a car guy. Totally a dune buggy pipe frame with integral roll cage.
I guess they did body swaps when doing offroad. Which totally makes sense. Not sure if the DeLorean is a sports car or a sedan, but the frame wasn't built for Hollywood stunts.
Please do not remake Back to the Future.
Good news Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale have the rights to approve any sequel or remake. They have both said absolutely no to any remakes.
Have you seen Hollywood recently? What isn’t a remake or revamp. Fuck they managed to get bill murray back into ghost busters. Hollywood is brain dead.
I wanted one at $40k, but for $60k that is a no from me.
Well that was another thing - Elon did the usual bait and switch, promising a vehicle one price and then delivering something costing nearly double. He did the same with the Model 3 - promising 30k but launch price was nearer 60k.
Anyway I don't think this vehicle is worth 40k either. At least the Model 3 was fundamentally sound design unlike the Cybertruck.
I would take one if they paid me $40k.
I wouldn't drive it though
it was never the future, it was only meant to hype of the stocks so he can get that 56bn payout in '23, it just took longer than expected.
Every time I see one I burst out laughing, they look so fucking stupid!
Its a modern day DMC DeLorean which ironically also had a raw stainless steel body. Hopefully it tanks the company just like the DeLorean did.
Delorean built his cars in Northern Ireland during the Troubles while also smuggling drugs to try to keep the company solvent, and he still managed to produce a better vehicle than Musk did. At least Delorean managed to pick a stainless steel alloy that was actually stainless!
First of all, it’s stain less not stain never. Second of all, Musk would do all the drugs instead of smuggling them. Finally, the cybertruck as is an engineering failure and no amount of money can fix it.
It's 301 stainless - the worst and cheapest stainless available. That crap rusts if you sneeze on it. It's what you sell to people who don't understand that there are different types of stainless steel.
The engineering was horrible down to material design and engineering. Different types of stainless have different applications. IIRC he announced that the same material used in SpaceX rockets would be used in the cybertruck - without considering if that’d be a good idea. Most people went crazy for it because SpaceX and did not consider that space ships and cars might require different formulations
Most people think of the thing in less like the tank in a tankless water heater, rather than like less sodium in reduced sodium soy sauce.
You made all my points for me, only one note: I can properly fix a cybertruck for $20USD. maybe less what have petrol prices been doing lately
DeLorean was not smuggling drugs to keep his company alive. As his company was tanking, he agreed to do a large drug deal, hoping to use the profits to keep the doors open a bit longer, but it turned out to be an entrapment scheme, and he was found not guilty.
He basically tried the same thing that the Reagan Administration did during the Iran-Contra Scandal, but he got caught because the people who talked him into it were cops. But the idea that the DeLorean company was fueled by drug money is wrong.
At least DeLorean went out for something cool: smuggling cocaine in the vehicles.
I don't think the DeLorean reference is apt. That company was headed by a man who saw himself as a visionary, liked to highlight his middle initial "Z," and had a drug addiction. No connection whatsoever.


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