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What is going on with Tesseract and some block list? (mander.xyz)
submitted 3 months ago by to c/outoftheloop@lemmy.world
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[–] [S] 30 points 3 months ago (19 children)

Ah ok, it's this list, and apparently I'm on it 🥲

https://file.garden/amIRhTctI0qld2r5/policy.json

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

    looks at list

    I'm not, and lemmy.today isn't either, but litter.catbox.moe is listed, and that seems like a bad idea.

    Catbox.moe is a popular free place to host files shared by users here, things like video clips, as it has permissive policy on things like filesize compared to the image-rs setup on a lot of Lemmy instances. Litter is for files where the poster only needs them to have a short lifespan, lets catbox.moe delete them and free up space (and also has a somewhat-larger filesize cap).

    Maybe if someone just didn't like catbox.moe at all

    which I don't agree with, but okay, at least I get that some people are going to object to some content on a filehosting server where anyone can post whatever they want. But blacklisting litter.catbox.moe but not blacklisting catbox.moe seems bizarre. In terms of content policy, the two are the same.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    Also, *.itch.io is on there. That's a popular site for hosting and selling indie games. Seems like an odd thing to blacklist.

    There are some pornographic games on itch.io, and maybe the list publisher has an issue with that, but nexusmods.com and loverslab.com and a number of other major mod sites that host pornographic mods are not on there.

    All communities ending in "Moe" are blocked, so that's presumably aimed at stopping sexed-up underage manga stuff.

    Politically, a lot of auth-left (tankie) stuff is on there, but so is conservative stuff, communist stuff, libertarian (probably right-libertarian), and anarchist stuff.

    4chan is blocked.

    The (controversial) archive.today family of sites, which are mostly used to bypass paywalls, is blocked.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago*

    And all of it under a hidden "advanced" setting you only get to by clicking on a question about why content seems to be missing (which you would never know because it does so silently and invisibly)... To enable "Toxic Mode".

    It's one of those things where this could have been done fairly well, by educating users about it... Instead great pains were taken to hide it, make it invisible, and if they were caught have a hidden toggle no one would notice but they could point to as an excuse.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Article explaining why archive.today may have been blocked: https://www.techspot.com/news/111296-wikipedia-may-remove-almost-700000-links-amid-archivetoday.html

    Now I can't speak for the whole fediverse obviously, but I think it's generally accepted that these are positive things:

    1. give the user the ability to block instances, users, communities, etc.
    2. give the user sensible defaults.
    3. be transparent about what your software is doing.
    4. don't go out of your way to fuck with someone else's shit.

    Tesseract's biggest sins aren't against 1 and 2, but 3 and 4. A default blocklist isn't necessarily bad, though its contents are debatable, and it has to be user-editable. But the DDOS script (and what an artless one btw), and the lack of transparency is pretty bad.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 3 months ago* (5 children)

    And it is about this app?

    https://lemmyapps.com/tesseract

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

    It's not this app, I think it's a Moderation tool for servers and admins though I might be wrong.

    Edit: apparently I did the one switcheroo and you are right, it is the Lemmy frontend you linked.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago

    Nope. It's literally the front end. That's why everyone is so pissed off. It's hidden secret policing. It's like fucking outlook deciding you shouldn't get emails from your Queer friends any more so it /dev/nulls them without even telling you they ever existed.

    They saw something free and human and decided it needed to be caged and twisted to their personal preferences

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    [–] 55 points 3 months ago (13 children)

    I have a short explainer here, with links. https://lemmy.world/comment/24932006

    If you are on the list, it’s a sign that you probably aren’t a horrible person. Keep up the good work, comrade.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    Does anyone know if this is a widely used app? All the stats I see on github or lemmyapps make it look very small.

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    • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    What is Tesseract? The only thing I can find online is for Tesseract OCR. I assume it's some sort of Lemmy frontend?

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    • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    To be fair, Tesseract users apparently never had to deal with any of my bullshit, so I guess it’s not a total loss for them.

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