Pretty sure this car had more ashtrays than it did safety features too
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The emissions acts really forced a lot of painful innovation. Engines like the Cadillac HT 4000 went to aluminum blocks, or we utterly throttled by shitty computers and carbourator tuning.
You could drunk drive into a brick wall at forty-five miles an hour and the only damage would be yourself smeared all over the inside of it.
You'd end up with the steering column through your chest because crumple zones didn't exist. https://youtu.be/fPF4fBGNK0U
I think we are saying the same thing.
We are. Sorry. It's early and I misread.
It’s like 2pm!
Damn lazy hippies sleeping all day.
I had an old Malibu, and I was backing into an alley and a telephone pole was somehow out of my vision. I hit it full force with the rear bumper. Got out and the chrome was still perfect, and no dent in the bumper...but wow what a jolt.
Hasn't the weight of cars been increasing? Pick a model and track the curb weight over generations. It seems to be going up.
Seriously. This is a 10th generation Oldsmobile 98, with a 4,000 pounds curb weight. That puts it in the same range as smaller crossover SUVs these days.
Thanks for the input. Is there a model of car we can use to show this trend? I tried doing it with a VW Golf, but that just showed the upward trend.
Thanks for that. Drawing a line between cars and SUVs helped clarify average vehicle weight as the sum of two different trends.
It's mostly that the old American land yachts are no longer as big. Look at the fifth generation Lincoln Continental vs any after it. Or the 1960s Cadillac Eldorado, a 2.2 ton 2 door car
European and Asian cars have been trending up in size meanwhile but there have been instances where a new generation model is lighter than the old one due to the materials used.
What's really jarring is to see the old, American land yachts from back in the day on the road next to the grotesquely-oversized pickup trucks we see everywhere today. They look, well, not exactly small, but nothing at all like the bloated whales in our memories. Heck, my grandfather's Cadillac seemed enormous at 225 inches long (the longest ever production car at the time), but the base model of the Ford F series is now 232 inches.
It's 1992. Your mom takes you to Dairy Queen in her oldsmobile. She lights up a cigarette. She asks if you want one. You say no. She says stop acting like such a pussy. You take the cigarette. She lights it for you.
She throws her empty bud can out the window and hands you two dollars to get a blizzard
1984 LTD Crown Victoria, White with red velour interior. I closed that door (which looks a lot like this door) on my hand and it locked. Mom had already gone inside and there i was screaming bloody murder in the front yard. She eventually came out and unlocked the door and got me out. Somehow it didn't break my hand, probly because children are made of rubber or something. Theres no point to this other than sharing my unlocked PTSD that this image unlocked.
It's 1992. Your mom just took you through the Dairy Queen drive in after supper. It was 30C today, and it's going to be 35C tomorrow, but you're an American child in 1992 and have no idea what that means in Freedom Units.
This is a mild tangent but I learned how to convert celsius to fahrenheit because of a Codename: Kids Next Store episode that I watched once wherein a character says "30c, 30 celsius that's like 80 degrees fahrenheit". Which is honestly not the weirdest thing to learn from but it is my number one.
This is super convoluted to some people, but its the easiest way for my weird American brain to convert it on the fly:
- 2*°C=ans
1 - ans
1—(0.1*ans1)=ans2 - ans
2—32=°F
The conversion most sources give you is:
(9/5)*°C—32=°F
But I find it easier to break it down into those 3 simple steps. If you're the kind of person who calculates 20% of X in two steps [20%*X=(0.1X)*2], you might also like my weird method of converting °C to °F.
I'd like to take a moment to dispel some of the claims being made in this comment thread.
Modern cars are significantly more reliable than older cars by virtually every measurable metric. They are unquestionably more difficult to work on, but they also break down far less often.
The safety features on modern vehicles are light-years ahead of anything available in the '80s or '90s. Emissions are also dramatically lower than they were back then.
A lot of people in the comments have already pointed this out.
That said, older cars were undeniably easier to work on in many respects.
Older cars could survive a wreck while their occupants didn’t. Newer cars are designed to protect the occupants by destroying themselves.
It's a real Facebook Boomer meme to show a picture of a fifty year old car that's been in a crash with a modern car with the caption "see what we lost they dont make them like they used to?" but totally ignoring that the people in the BeigeWagon were turned into lasagna while the passengers of the Wokemobile will complete their journey with bruises and a taxi.
Older cars also looked nicer. Yes our cars are better, and I will probably never own a classic car. The Chevrolet Bel Air looks way better than any car built in the last 10 years, and it's a metal death trap.
Hey man I had a 1967 Plymouth Newport that had to have 454 engine just haul the car around. Fucker was tank on wheels.
That would have been a 440 engine. General Motors made the 454.
I used to have a 69 Newport. Loved that car.
Suckers to the side
I know you hate
my 98!!!
YOU GONNA GET YOURS!
And it smelled like 20-year-old cigarette smoke
Looks like the door to the Cadillac sitting in my dad’s garage. Things heavy af
You're in the middle of death valley in a heat wave.
It's hotter than Venus outside.
Your mom turns the AC on low.
The 17.4L V8 Gas Guzzler super-extra-big-block engine bogs an imperceptible amount
The weapons grade CFCs—now banned by the Geneva convention—form icicles on your eyebrows in seconds.
One of the weird problems car guys ran into in the 1990's was cars with non-functional R12 A/C. If you had one that had lost it's gas, that was it unless you could find someone's forgotten stash of white cylinders or wanted to circulate high pressure propane in front of and around an internal combustion engine.
Nowadays it's easy enough to change it over to R134a.
They sell "fucking cars" now?
If you're not even 50 yet and already falling into nostalgia traps seek help.
I don't need help. I need a systemic revamp of our political and financial systems, and for terrible things to happen to billionaires.
You will most likely need help making those things happen.
My step-uncle had one of these. He almost never pulled it out and certainly would not have let icecream anywhere near the thing.
Cars are super fat anymore so I'll bet my VWs golfs door weighs at least as much.
For reference in 1996 I was hit in my 88 Jetta by an 83 Caprice classic stationwagon, she was going 55 I was doing 45 and hit me head on. I could open the door to my car she had to be cut out.
My parents wrote both VW in Germany and VW USA thanking them for building a good car and got a shit ton of swag
I've literally taken apart my Golf's doors a half dozen times (Various electrical issues and part replacements). Mk5 mind you not mk1/2 like your Jetta probably was, but they are shockingly light. Like 1mm thin sheet metal molded into a reinforcing shape, the latch motor is by far the heaviest thing in there.
No intrusion bars? Those have a good bit of weight to them due to the strength requirements.
My 2019 Golf Alltrack weighs 2800 pounds according to the States of Florida, and 3240 pounds with me in it on the scale at the drag strip.
A '94 caprice weighs about 4000 pounds and it is a BoF car.
I can assure you, little of it is from the doors. My 2007 Audi A6 allroad is 4300 pounds empty according to its birth certificate and the doors on it don't weigh much at all... Or rather they didn't till I added noise absorption mats when I replaced the door locks. Yours is newer but a Golf would likely have less built in noise insulation in the doors than an A6 and it might even have aluminium doors since it's newer. Mine are still steel, but the metal is pretty thin.
Do the red and white courtesy lights work when you open the door? The mirror control, joystick, was cool too.
The 1992 Oldsmobile Cutlass cruiser had a curb weight of almost 4,500 lb. Compare that to my Subaru WRX, which is fairly heavy for a modern car and has a curb weight of less than 3,500 lb...

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