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[–] 189 points 3 months ago* (9 children)

Continuing that unbroken streak of bad artistic decisions towards an inevitable Star Wars Special 50th Anniversary Slop Edition reissue.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    NGL I would buy a ticket to at least the first movie just to commentate as loudly and obnoxiously as possible until I got kicked out.

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  • [–] 49 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Not sure why you'd be kicked out. You're not disturbing anyone. You'd be the only one in there.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    I know you're joking, but ya know... what kills the joke? Is how wrong you are. There's gonna probably be plenty of dumbass folks there.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I mean......maybe? I didn't realize there was a strict code of conduct on Lemmy where our jokes had to adhear to realism. Very sorry for the mishap. I'll only tell jokes where the punchlines seem they could happen in real life.

    So a guy walks into a bar. The bartender says "What'cha havin?" And the guy says "A MENTAL BREAKDOWN!!!!" and then proceeds to cry that his wife has left him.

    ..........I just don't know about this realism humor.

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  • [–] 109 points 3 months ago (21 children)

    “If you want AI that tells you when something is fake and where it came from, AI can do that,” he says. “Humans can’t, we’re not that smart.

    dead-eyed stare in librarian

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  • [–] 29 points 3 months ago (18 children)

    How could that even be true since it was humans thay trained ai. What a dumb statement ahh

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (13 children)

    Ai can do plenty of classification tasks better than humans though. It's not like every entity that trains another is fundamentally smarter.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Yeah but to say humans can't do this when humans doing it were what provided it the data is a dumb statement. Humans classified the data so that AI could learn you wouldnt say humans can't classify data.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Humans can, ai can do it better than humans in many areas though.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

    Software can't tell truth from lies because software doesn't even know what those are. It doesn't know anything. It's a parrot, a magic trick, a mirror to fool people (people like George Lucus) into thinking there's another person looking a back at them.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    Regardless many ai classifiers outperform humans at classifying. Your comment seems irrelevant to the discussion.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    The parameters set for classifying that are basically non-existant. So no, they can't really do any of that. AI-bros will readily claim they can though, because it is like really important to them.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Your comment seems irrelevant to the discussion.

    As opposed to your comment moving the goalposts from an AI doing something humans can't, to them just being better than humans (which is absolutely arguable in most cases)?

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  • I was responding to the claim that ai's can't do anything better than the thing that trained them. It's completely relevant and not a goalpost shift. They can do plenty of things that humans can't feasibly do, such as protein folding prediction.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    When I was in college I built a chess playing program that I couldn't beat. It wasn't very good, but it was much better than me. The trick is machine learning: teach it the rules, get it to play millions of games against itself and adjust its strategy after each game.

    The AI can become better at a learnable skill than those who trained it because the AI can spend zillions of hours practicing

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    AI detection by AI is not reliable. Lots of false negatives, and comparatively less but still too much reporting false positives to be reliable (and those are especially biased).

    It's unlikely to get better too. If AI was able to reliably detect AI output, why not use that to correct itself to be less AI-like? And where is the seemingly infinite money thrown at in this struggle?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    If AI was able to reliably detect AI output, why not use that to correct itself to be less AI-like?

    You just described adversarial training, something I've been hearing about for at least a few years now.

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  • [–] 47 points 3 months ago

    Kokaku’s website is blocking my VPN connection. Here’s the text of the article.

    George Lucas Goes To The Dark Side, Says AI Is ‘The Future’

    By Kenneth Shepard Published July 14, 2026

    The Star Wars creator compares not using AI to riding a horse in the face of cars

    I would like to think that not every prestigious filmmaker is vulnerable to the AI propaganda, but it feels like we’re getting new stories of someone partnering with or advocating for the use of artificial intelligence as the future of cinematic storytelling every day. The newest addition to the list? Mr. Star Wars himself, George Lucas, and man is his reasoning a bummer.

    In an interview with A Rabbit’s Foot, Lucas discussed his career and the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art, opening this fall in L.A., which will be showcasing decades of human-made art and spotlighting, as its website calls it, “stories and people who tell them.” In the lengthy interview, Lucas shares some meaningful insights into filmmaking, discusses his collaborations with people like Indiana Jones director Steven Spielberg, and even offers some pithy observations about the pitfalls of testing films with focus groups and whether or not the average viewer is actually in touch with what they like about movies.

    “If they don’t like a character, that’s interesting, and as a filmmaker I want to find out why,” he says. “But when the studios hear that, they take the wrong message. They let the audience actually make the movie. Of course, now they go crazy with that. Now, it’s all about what the fans think. That isn’t how you make the movie. You make a movie by finding someone that knows how to make movies, that has a story to tell and is passionate about it.”

    Jarringly, this advocacy for human-led storytelling is followed by claims that AI is “the future,” and Lucas compares not using the new technology to relying on antiquated transportation in the face of cars.

    “Artificial intelligence means it’s much easier for us to make movies,” he tells A Rabbit’s Foot. “It’s very much like sitting here saying, ‘Well, I believe the horse and the buggy is really where it’s at. These cars, they break down, they need gas, there’s all kinds of problems with them and pretty soon they’ll be making them into tanks, and then they’ll be killing people. It’s terrible.’ There’s nothing you can do about it. That’s progress, it’s the future.”

    Though he acknowledged the risks of using the plagiarism machine when A Rabbit’s Foot questioned him further, he doubled down by highlighting other benefits he believes AI will provide in the future.

    “If you want AI that tells you when something is fake and where it came from, AI can do that,” he says. “Humans can’t, we’re not that smart. The whole idea is you’re a human being, you’re responsible for what you say and what you do, and if you’re doing something that’s illegal you should be punished for that. Whatever you do, you should be recognized. It’s just like real life.”

    There’s a scene in Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back where Luke Skywalker is training alongside Yoda and learning the ins and outs of being a Jedi, and he asks if the dark side of the Force is stronger than the light side. Yoda replies that it’s not, but that many fall to it because it is “quicker, easier, more seductive.” That movie was released 46 years ago, but it is certainly illustrative of the logic Lucas is using here. 

    He advocates for the importance of human-made art, but then argues that using technology that is notorious for stealing from humans and whose results generally look like shit compared to work made by hand would make the filmmaking process “easier.” It’s “the future” and there’s “nothing you can do about it”? It’s contradictory to believe both that it’s the human spirit that makes great films and also that a technology that’s being used to remove the human element from the process is the future of making movies. If that makes me naive and means I’m fighting against the inevitable, then I will go down swinging.

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  • [–] 81 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Flukey dilettante regards stochastic parrot as unfathomable prodigy

    Read all about it

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  • [–] 62 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    This reads like one of those mass-delete gibberish Reddit comments, lol

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I have always thought ai was like the Jar Jar Binks of computer programs.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago

    Classic George L, I wouldn't have expected any more from him

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Frank Herbert wasn't around to tell him how to think about it, I guess.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago

    Well yeah, he’s a billionaire, of course he looks after his own class’s interests.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Instead of interviewing a rich, famous, busy person, wouldn't it be easier to ask an AI to pretend to be that person, and interview the AI?

    Or even to ask the AI to just write both parts of the interview itself? Wouldn't that just be helping interviewers get the stories they want to share out into the world?

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    yeah I'm not surprised, I watched the prequels. This guy was a legend in the 70s, that is like 50 years ago.

    He hasn't done anything great since co-writing Willow 40 years ago. Go to his IMDB, he's lived out of star wars nostalgia since then, and all of them after the initial trilogy was a downgrade.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I lost every ounce of respect and admiration I had for this man after he sold the franchise to Disney.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Who is surprised by this?

    He was making slop versions of his own movies before AI.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    "Goes to the Dark Side"

    Someone never saw the rerelease of the original series.

    Lucas' best work was under an editor, whenever he got the full reigns, the product suffered.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    Its weird that he really was on the forefront once because he did physical effects with interesting camera shots. it felt new and different.

    AI is not going to give you that, it will suck. CGI sucks already too.

    Oh well not like he is relevant. A new hope was at least interesting, but its been nothing after that anyways.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    Not going to get into the AI debate; I will agree that BAD CGI sucks; there’s so much CGI you never even notice and without it the scenes would be horrible. The main reason “CGI sucks” is because of the shift to go with the lowest bidder who’s then forced to work under horrific timelines and unable to actually do good work. CGI itself doesn’t suck, but it absolutely can when done by a low bidder in 1/4 of the time it needs.

    https://youtu.be/bL6hp8BKB24

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago*

    Funny he uses Michael bay as an example in that video. Nothing will put me to sleep faster than a Michael bay movies effects.

    I get your point though, it's a tool when used artistically and with skill can be fine.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    He used what was available at the time. For the original trilogy, that was practical effects.

    The prequel trilogy was a bit more... Dodgy thanks to eagerly embraced CGI that wasn't fully baked yet.

    People famously critiqued the reworked original trilogy due to various dubious creative tweaks. Like waking on Jabba and Jabba just having a funny reaction instead of how you would expect him to react.

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  • Nothing he added was pointful. All of the CGI retouches of the original trilogy were pointless CGI effects for the sake of having pointless CGI effects. At one point in the Mos Eisley sequence a huge pack animal walks through the frame, obscuring almost all of it. Why? Because it was some computer generated shit to throw in!

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  • [+] -6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)
  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    AI has the ability to revolutionise the industry in a way that it needs in order to survive - greatly reduce costs and greatly reduce production times.

    Do you know what those words mean?

    AI is being used as a force multiplier, and it's being used as a force multiplier for evil. It's being used to replace jobs, to put hundreds, thousands, and eventually millions of people out of work. At scale, it takes up more power than entire cities do, and the data centers and power station upgrades that it requires at that scale ends up with companies literally demolishing entire residential areas, forcing people out of their homes.

    AI is not worth the trade-offs and the massive sacrifices required for it. It is destroying society.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Needs to survive? Are you kidding me? Good stories, good direction. You don't need 47 million dollars to make a movie.

    Can you show me that "the movie industry is in free fall"? I have seen many fantastic movies lately.

    I guess you could consider AI to be a form of animation, but I really don't see them improving anything if they keep churning out the same crap for the big budget movies.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Failing studios due to their mad rush to build out streaming services, taking on massive debt, and trying to shuffle that debt around. Doesnt help that they don't pick up movies that are worthwhile and instead try to follow formulas. They want intellectual Property for a long term franchise, park ride, and merch. Consolidation desires IP.

    For example on major movies: I saw someone on Nebula say everything that went into making The Barbie Movie was what made it work. But instead of focusing on what THAT was and making a different movie, they immediately start thinking: milk the Barbie movie for a sequel and more merch and a Barbieland.

    Point is: they made shitty decisions. I am not sure AI will help because they will still do the above and just pay less people.

    At least thats how I see it.

    I could see AI being used as a story board, sample scenes, something like that. Beyond that, nah I don't even want to see it.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago

    Guy with famously bad takes has bad take.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    it probably produces dialog that sounds more like it was written by a human

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago

    common George Lucas L

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    The guy that essentially added lasers to Japanese movies and somehow became a multi-billionaire is a fan of stealing other's work with minimal effort and reusing it without permission?

    I'm shocked. Shocked I say.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    i mean, he was there all along. he pioneered the all green screen wave of automation in movies. the abuse of green screen was the slop before ai was around. to him it’s just cutting out all the vestiges of imperfection still greasing the machine

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