I'll start: printers.

I bought an HP in March 2020 when my job went remote and HP bricked it remotely after only 100 pages because I wouldn't sign up for their subscription program. Ended up trashing a perfectly good printer.

Luckily my library's close by and I can print there remotely.

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[–] 187 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (28 children)

Cars. Basically every new model is always online, connected, and streaming who knows what data. Not to mention the awful UX of touchscreens.

Why should a car be connected to the internet? The infotainment is justified but should be controllable. And this includes EVs. Just because your wheels are moved by electric motors it doesn't automatically mean the entire car is "tech" and must be connected to everything and anything.

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  • [–] 57 points 4 months ago (14 children)

    If I had to get a car I would by an old clunker and pay someone to convert it to electric.

    Yes I would like a fully electric 1957 Bel-Air please.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Ideally you just look for a Honda or Toyota from like 20 years ago, assuming you want gas powered. Look for only like 1-3 owners, regular service history. Those things will last into 600k+ miles if they received regular service and parts are dirt cheap.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    If I did that I would just be another selfish, ignorant asshole complicit in the destruction and collapse of the natural systems that allow me to breath and eat. No, it would have to be electric. Even then I wouldn't really want it because of the tires and the raw materials needed to create it in the first place.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Alright well I'm going to continue surviving. You have fun doing whatever I guess.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    good luck lol. ur gunna need it (literally like fkin miracle). o7

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Open your fucking eyes, dude. Everything's dying. There won't be any grass to touch, in our lifetimes.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Touch grass.

    Get off the fucking Internet, stop immersing yourself in anxiety and misery, and exist in the real world for a while.

    Shit's okay.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    Lmao, tell that to the millions of families in Northern Africa and India that had children and grandparents die of heatstroke and thirst in the last few years (obviously you don't give a fuck about them). Or the hundreds of people that died in a wildfire in Hawaii (no fucks given, again). Shit is not okay. But it finally makes sense now, I'm such a fucking idiot. You're a climate change denialist. The destruction of civilization is partly caused by people like you; simply by being ignorant, selfish and so goddamn stupid. Block me so you can continue believing you're a good person and existing in the real world, or rather: living in a bubble and ignoring everything that's happening right now simply because it's not directly effecting you. Well, this conversation will likely only serve to as a reminder of how shitty of a person you are when you starve, die of thirst, burn to death or drown in flash flood. Or maybe some desperate person murders you for your whatever scraps of food you have and eats your dog, if you hadn't eaten them already by that point. Then you will know I was right (unless you're just that good at ignoring things that make you feel bad), but it will be far too late and already is in many ways. Again, not that it matters to you. I beileve you would much rather Live a Bubble and ignore the millions of climate change related deaths that don't effect you. Which it will, eventually. Not that you can think that far ahead, or beyond your next Wal-Mart trip.

    I'm so glad you're still able to get to Wal-Mart in comfort though.

    Fucking block me.

    NASA temperature anomaly data

    Gray Whale Population collapse, due to Krill population collapse

    Yellow is anomalous temperature

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/04/climate/el-nino-global-warming.html

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0141113625005793

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    OK, convert a 20 year old Toyota or Honda. Way easier to find one than thinking you have to go pre-fuel injection era to avoid wireless connectivity. Either way, you're probably going to instantly trash a working engine apparently.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Yep, that's the plan. Maybe soon, more people will realize those engines are one of the main reasons millions of people have already died from catastrophic climate change. I doubt it though... most are too focused on themselves, their own comfort and "survival" to realize or even care how much of an impact their actions have and even then can easily blame some rich asshole so they can keep being just as selfish as said rich asshole.

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  • [–] 46 points 4 months ago

    An acquaintance from NHTSA says the cars save audio from the interior of the vehicle in a type of black box that can be accessed by investigators after wrecks. They frequently analyze this audio, but it’s SUPPOSED TO BE A SECRET.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    My recent purchase was a Mazda specifically because the infotainment was not a touchscreen, but instead controlled by a rotating knob joystick.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Honestly that seems a bit worse

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    It's really quite nice. I was just in a rental car with a touchscreen and hated how hard it was to hit buttons while driving because your finger is bouncing from the road. With the knob you stay leaned back in the seat and rotate the knob and slap it down to activate things. Don't have to worry about missing the target. The only thing it's not great for is scrolling a map.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    Infotainment ain't justified, at least not up front. Put all that shit in the back if you gotta have it, but the driver should have as few distractions as possible. A simple radio, climate control, and the instrument panel. That's it.

    Utterly insane that we ever allowed glorified tablets to become standard equipment in dashboards.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    How many cars were you buying

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Like most people who drive, they probably would be buying a new car every 5-10 years. Is that far fetched? I've know several people who spend half their money on cars, buying/trading them every year or so. Most fediverse people would be saavier than that, but still.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Well there was period where I changed cars every 2 years. For a total of 3 cars, and then I didn't need one any more. Not the most egregious example but I did like changing them. It's like any other toy, it's easy to get hooked on upgrades and trying out new models.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    I drive them until the cost of fixing them significantly exceeds the cost of getting a new used car. Accounting for it being a pain in the ass to shop for cars etc.

    But yeah every 3-5 years sounds about right for typical middle/upper class families. My parents did pretty well when I was little and I remember them doing 2 or 3 year leases.

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  • [–] 100 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    Any hardware associated with Facebook.

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  • [–] 38 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    And software, while we're at it. Web plugins included. Basically just Facebook.

    It could've stopped at "Lets people share things with friends and family" but they'll never be satisfied, until even if they have the entire world's money, attention, and data in their clutches.

    What they've done to VR pisses me off to the core.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I never understood why people think VR can be a mass market product. It’s literally single user. It cannot be looked at by two people at the same time. Such a silly concept. It’s good for gaming, some work, robotics, remote access, etc. But mass market? iPhone-killer? Price-accessible to all? I don’t get it.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah I definitely think AR has a better opportunity for that... But then unfortunately we know what they do as soon as there's a camera attached to anything

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I sat in an uber the other day and the driver had meta ray ban sunglasses on. It was a very uncomfortable ride.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Honestly, using them as an uber driver might be the singular applicable use case in my eyes. It would be less intrusive than a 360 dash cam which I would want to use to protect myself. Accidents, false claims, etc. There is a lot that can go wrong and a lot of shitty people and a "paper trail" of events is VERY useful in court.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago*

    There is some open source software that is associated with Facebook, like compression with Zstandard, a very common and useful compression format. Don't care that it's from them in that case.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    What hardware is associated with Facebook? The Oculus?

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    False.

    The Facebook Portal TV was, and still is, gorgeous. The voice control is dead, the streaming services removed, the Alexa link dead, but as a video conf device that uses your TV really well, it's a life-changer.

    We chat with people on the other Coast weekly, and we get to see people in their living room from ours. We can't go visit, but we can stay in touch.

    We paid like $100 each for 4 of these. I'd've paid 5 times that for one with upgradeable assistant access and vanilla open video chat so it's fb free. They're all still running but they tether us to Fb since the zoom was ass.

    Edit: downvoting something as cool as the portal TV is bizarre. It really is a stand-out product and I'm sad that its connection to FB ruined its reception.

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  • [+] 89 points 4 months ago (14 children)
  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Good idea on the washer. My washer and dryer are both 27 years old. Just basic Whirlpool models. I've repaired both myself a few times, it's not hard, and there are directions for every problem online.

    New appliances are shit, now. I dread having to replace my fridge. It's about 25 years old and still works perfectly, but nothing lasts forever.

    I'll definitely be looking at old used in appliances before buying new from now on. Same for cars.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I know it’s off topic, but just want to jump on here and brag about my microwave that is still operating everyday, despite dating back to about 1982.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yep, I had a GE from 1984. It was a "Spacemaker". I stupidly gave it away after 30 years because I decided I wanted a bigger one. That's when I learned that new appliances suck. I'm on my third microwave since then. I have no doubt the one I gave away is still working.

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  • [–] [S] 21 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    laundry machine, I’m looking for a decades old, used one. One with a spin cycle and that lets you start and stop it in demand.

    Smart.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Get a Brother washing machine. Got it!

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago*

    Talk about it. My washing machine that was just 2½ years old, luckily within extended warranty period, had worn ballbearings. Those were luckily replaced, but it took repair shop and required paperwork 2+ weeks to even come and pick it up, they did offer replacement machine during the repairs.

    That wasn't the worst part, i could still run the machine as the ball bearings were just starting to wear out.

    It came back from the repair shop and 2 bloody weeks later another part failed, a fucking simple sensor and the machine no longer runs at all. I removed the side panel and i can see the sensor, 2 screws and a simple plug. I'm not going to contact the repair shop and insurance for that, it's going to take them longer to get back to me than it does me to find a supplier and order the part myself.
    In the meanwhile I'm forced to wash my clothes by hand.

    Though that made me realize i need to buy a spare washing machine and keep that in the basement for when main one breaks again.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    HP printers don’t do that, either. All sources I could find were random reports from people with zero evidence.

    HP has terrible scummy business presences and sucks, but this post is straight up misinformation and everyone is just like “oh yeah that’s true they do that”

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  • [+] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Thank you for the source! Not a great look on HP’s part, and they’ve always been against third party ink which is shitty. I remember a friend of mine having a giant ink reservoir next to their 02 HP photo printer—ink was free forever basically. Amazing printers. That’s prolly why they stopped the 02s… way too easy to make them awesome by tank-feeding.

    I still contest OP’s “they bricked my printer”, it’ll still print with HP ink. Moreover, printers have had chips for decades that allow them only to print with first party ink… you can circumvent the chips, but still. HP didn’t brick yer printer if you fell for their subscription ink grift (also who does that, sorry) they just make it so you need their own ink… like.. they have been doing since the 2000s.

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  • [–] 54 points 4 months ago (12 children)
  • [–] [S] 26 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    Thank you! I'm okay with walking over to the library to print, though.

    It's fun getting to express my socialist sensibilities in that way.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    [rant]Same; however, my local library has the shittiiiessssttt system in place for paying. Half the time the cards don't work and they're not reloadable so if there's like 5 cents left you have to print one single page to use it up. I have 4 or 5 cards now with less than ten cents left on them. They say there's a new system in the works but I think they only have enough money to pay one person to do it because it's been a really long time.[/rant]

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    That's aggravating. It's paid for by our taxes here in KC. Each user gets an allotment. (I think it's daily, but not sure.)

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    For responsible printing that's wonderful.

    At our library I quickly learned that people want to just print entire reams of nonsense, like web pages that were clearly not made for printing and waste entire pages on like one graphic, and then 35 pages of comments because this person didn't know how to select certain pages or use "print preview"

    ...So they pay 10¢ a page. Lol

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    For some reason the open printer uses HP ink cartridges, so I'm sure it'll be great right up until HP decides to jack up the price and/or discontinue them.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    No, they use the generic refillable cartridges as well. They just use that style of cartridge, not a specific brand.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    All hp printheads are "refillable". The problem is that the printhead itself is not designed to last more than a refill.

    HP doesn't sell those standalone, all the generic refillable cartridges compatible with HP are hand picked from e-waste in some third world country, then cleaned, primed and sold as "new"

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    You can buy generic new versions of the cartridge. They are not washed. They are not reused heads, they have never seen the inside of a printer. I have been using them in my printer for over a decade and have never used a rebuilt cartridge.

    EDIT: Sorry for the link, these are the cartridges I use in mine. The manufacturer listed them as new, not rebuilt.

    https://i.postimg.cc/MKq4VZSf/IMG-20260712-091512.jpg
    https://i.postimg.cc/m2BqCZsz/IMG-20260712-091519.jpg

    DOUBLE EDIT: Thinking about it more, my HP printer is very old so perhaps there's a mechanic implemented in newer printers and cartridges that I don't have to defeat, which would make my argument incorrect for that cartridge.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Why the hell would they use hp cartridges?!

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    Oh it's refillable, that's fine then

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    No, it's not. They aren't built to last regardless of being refillable. They'll need to be replaced.

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  • [–] 51 points 4 months ago (19 children)

    Anything smart or iot, or that requires a subscription to use.

    A windows license.

    Games consoles. (I would consider a stream deck to be immune from this as it's just a handheld PC)

    Android phones, Apple phones.

    Wireless earphones.

    A modern car.

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    Hazarding a guess, but wireless earbuds means your Bluetooth has to be active, and your Bluetooth radio is something that can be used to track you

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Ugh, yes, good point. Bluetooth is not the height of security.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    bluetooth got real fucking creepy once you had to start having location enabled to use it.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    What device? Never heard that before

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Samsung Galaxy phone, admittedly years ago, cause it made me stop using bluetooth.

    But a quick sanity check, to make sure i was remembering correctly, by doing a search for variations of bluetooth cant be used without location on do return results showing that I was not out of my gourd and that it does happen.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I replied to another user about this, but aside from Bluetooth being a privacy nightmare, there's also the limited lifespan, the bad quality dacs, the lithium batteries and increased e-waste. Not to mention the expense. For $500 you can get genuinely very good wired headphones that will last the rest of your life. For the same price you can get mediocre wireless headphones that will eventually fail to hold a charge and become useless in X years

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    idk, my $90 earbuds that I use for meetings in the office and occasional personal use are almost five years old and doing fine. can't say I've noticed an issue with the battery life because they live in the charging case and only get taken out for use periods that are max a couple hours. and the quality is more than good enough.

    I've got some nice proper headphones. they're not the right tool for that use case, for me.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    Track me with what? The pigeons don't actually have Bluetooth tracking readers on them

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    The pigeons don't, but phones do. They have access to bluetooth data from everyone who has it turned on in their phones, including yours. You're surrounded by "pigeons".

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago*

    Lol, we've known about Bluetooth tracking for YEARS. Apple released the iBeacon in 2013, so this isn't even remotely a controversial statement, unless you've been living under a rock. Add on the BT tracking we hear about for LPRs, and you can easily see why someone wouldn't want to keep the radio active

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Also curious about wireless earphones, if it's an audio quality thing, I can understand that.

    Please also reply to me so I can get a notification to see your answer

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Foggenbooty pretty much nailed it.

    Poor repairability, but also, why would I use 2 cheap dacs (1 in each earbuds), when I would use wired earphones and have 1 good dac. And the fact lithium needs to be mined for 2 batteries is super problematic considering the conditions lithium miners face.

    Of course then there's the issue that everything with a battery has a limited lifespan. Those batteries will die one day and render your wireless earphones useless. My headphones will last for the rest of my life, meaning less e-waste is generated.

    BT being active is a privacy nightmare, and the ones that require apps is also a privacy nightmare.

    But then also they are just inferior to wired headphones in every way. So yeah, I'm not gonna buy an objectively worse product for way more money than their wired counterparts, that also exploits lithium miners and our planet and is also a privacy nightmare.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I got fed up after the battery died on my 4th pair of AirPods, and the 20+ year old Shure IEMs I have, still work good as the day I bought them.

    I have 4 pairs of AirPods on my nightstand where only one ear works, and the other ear gets maybe minutes of usable time, or is crackly and awful sounding. To be fair, one pair went through the wash. But even then, I’d rather wash a pair of 25 dollar wired headphones, than another 250 dollar pair of AirPod pros.

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