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What's something you no longer buy due to intrusive, insidious technology being added into it? (lemmy.world)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world
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I'll start: printers.

I bought an HP in March 2020 when my job went remote and HP bricked it remotely after only 100 pages because I wouldn't sign up for their subscription program. Ended up trashing a perfectly good printer.

Luckily my library's close by and I can print there remotely.

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[–] 187 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (28 children)

Cars. Basically every new model is always online, connected, and streaming who knows what data. Not to mention the awful UX of touchscreens.

Why should a car be connected to the internet? The infotainment is justified but should be controllable. And this includes EVs. Just because your wheels are moved by electric motors it doesn't automatically mean the entire car is "tech" and must be connected to everything and anything.

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  • [–] 57 points 4 months ago (14 children)

    If I had to get a car I would by an old clunker and pay someone to convert it to electric.

    Yes I would like a fully electric 1957 Bel-Air please.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Ideally you just look for a Honda or Toyota from like 20 years ago, assuming you want gas powered. Look for only like 1-3 owners, regular service history. Those things will last into 600k+ miles if they received regular service and parts are dirt cheap.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    If I did that I would just be another selfish, ignorant asshole complicit in the destruction and collapse of the natural systems that allow me to breath and eat. No, it would have to be electric. Even then I wouldn't really want it because of the tires and the raw materials needed to create it in the first place.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Alright well I'm going to continue surviving. You have fun doing whatever I guess.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    good luck lol. ur gunna need it (literally like fkin miracle). o7

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    Touch grass, dude.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Open your fucking eyes, dude. Everything's dying. There won't be any grass to touch, in our lifetimes.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Touch grass.

    Get off the fucking Internet, stop immersing yourself in anxiety and misery, and exist in the real world for a while.

    Shit's okay.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    Lmao, tell that to the millions of families in Northern Africa and India that had children and grandparents die of heatstroke and thirst in the last few years (obviously you don't give a fuck about them). Or the hundreds of people that died in a wildfire in Hawaii (no fucks given, again). Shit is not okay. But it finally makes sense now, I'm such a fucking idiot. You're a climate change denialist. The destruction of civilization is partly caused by people like you; simply by being ignorant, selfish and so goddamn stupid. Block me so you can continue believing you're a good person and existing in the real world, or rather: living in a bubble and ignoring everything that's happening right now simply because it's not directly effecting you. Well, this conversation will likely only serve to as a reminder of how shitty of a person you are when you starve, die of thirst, burn to death or drown in flash flood. Or maybe some desperate person murders you for your whatever scraps of food you have and eats your dog, if you hadn't eaten them already by that point. Then you will know I was right (unless you're just that good at ignoring things that make you feel bad), but it will be far too late and already is in many ways. Again, not that it matters to you. I beileve you would much rather Live a Bubble and ignore the millions of climate change related deaths that don't effect you. Which it will, eventually. Not that you can think that far ahead, or beyond your next Wal-Mart trip.

    I'm so glad you're still able to get to Wal-Mart in comfort though.

    Fucking block me.

    NASA temperature anomaly data

    Gray Whale Population collapse, due to Krill population collapse

    Yellow is anomalous temperature

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/04/climate/el-nino-global-warming.html

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0141113625005793

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    OK, convert a 20 year old Toyota or Honda. Way easier to find one than thinking you have to go pre-fuel injection era to avoid wireless connectivity. Either way, you're probably going to instantly trash a working engine apparently.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Yep, that's the plan. Maybe soon, more people will realize those engines are one of the main reasons millions of people have already died from catastrophic climate change. I doubt it though... most are too focused on themselves, their own comfort and "survival" to realize or even care how much of an impact their actions have and even then can easily blame some rich asshole so they can keep being just as selfish as said rich asshole.

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  • [–] 46 points 4 months ago

    An acquaintance from NHTSA says the cars save audio from the interior of the vehicle in a type of black box that can be accessed by investigators after wrecks. They frequently analyze this audio, but it’s SUPPOSED TO BE A SECRET.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    My recent purchase was a Mazda specifically because the infotainment was not a touchscreen, but instead controlled by a rotating knob joystick.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Honestly that seems a bit worse

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    It's really quite nice. I was just in a rental car with a touchscreen and hated how hard it was to hit buttons while driving because your finger is bouncing from the road. With the knob you stay leaned back in the seat and rotate the knob and slap it down to activate things. Don't have to worry about missing the target. The only thing it's not great for is scrolling a map.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    Infotainment ain't justified, at least not up front. Put all that shit in the back if you gotta have it, but the driver should have as few distractions as possible. A simple radio, climate control, and the instrument panel. That's it.

    Utterly insane that we ever allowed glorified tablets to become standard equipment in dashboards.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    How many cars were you buying

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Like most people who drive, they probably would be buying a new car every 5-10 years. Is that far fetched? I've know several people who spend half their money on cars, buying/trading them every year or so. Most fediverse people would be saavier than that, but still.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Well there was period where I changed cars every 2 years. For a total of 3 cars, and then I didn't need one any more. Not the most egregious example but I did like changing them. It's like any other toy, it's easy to get hooked on upgrades and trying out new models.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    I drive them until the cost of fixing them significantly exceeds the cost of getting a new used car. Accounting for it being a pain in the ass to shop for cars etc.

    But yeah every 3-5 years sounds about right for typical middle/upper class families. My parents did pretty well when I was little and I remember them doing 2 or 3 year leases.

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