Eh, it's the circle of life game development.

Small studio makes great games, gets bought by big studio, big studio's management flood small studio's staff, the games developed suffer, big studio makes cuts firing almost everyone who was worth a damn, small studio shambles on in name only for a while longer before being mercifully put down. Meanwhile some of the fired devs band together creating a new small studio which makes great games, attracting the attention of a big studio...

I don't know why anyone would work at one of these studios. Obviously people are staying because the jobs are still lucrative but who is it that's walking into these super unstable jobs under a company that's been doing nothing but layoffs and shutdowns for the last few years?

theyll probably use the fo4 engine (i hope not) or the new engine starfield had (i hope so). fallout not in creation engine seems insane, unless its isometric again

Especially since Bethesda's Fallouts suck because of the thing that makes TES great - what they do is power fantasy. That's great for Nirn, since you almost always turn out to be some sort of demigod anyway. But a post-apocalyptic RPG? You're meant to be scraping by in dirt. Sure, let the player become a wasteland badass, but not godlike. That sucks.

I mean Josh Sawyer is leading it and Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky are both at Obsidian and I imagine they'll be pulled in, as well as a bunch of other folks - so no idea what you're talking about?

And people will talk themselves out of enjoying a game for that, too.

No if it doesn't sell $1B let half of staff go like with ID Software. Force remaining people to use AI and work twice as much.

Smart money is that it's built on the bones of The Outer Worlds 2, which was great. Failing that, a far dumber but still possible decision would be to build it on the bones of Fallout 76 or Starfield.

Ok but the people that made the og games are on the team.

I don't get this mentality of deciding something isn't as good before it's even been created yet. I don't even think New Vegas is Obsidian's best RPG. I'd say that's Pillars 2.

I can only expect it'll be as lifeless as Avowed.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

stop this bullshit narrative please. todd not liking more video games coming out is absurd

That would be Xbox and PC and everything except Playstation

I actually haven't. They did outer worlds and I don't think I've heard from them since. What have they put out that's unsatisfactory since then?

Because they don't own the license and cant work on it until microsoft tells them to?

obsidian was focusing on their own stuff

It looks like Microsoft did cut some people at Obsidian. I see Josh Sawyer 8 days ago retweeting (or whatwver the Bluesky term is) various "got laid off, looking for work" messages from some Obsidian people who got cut. I don't think that they were from the Fallout: New Vegas team, though (at least the two mentioned).

https://bsky.app/profile/jesawyer.bsky.social

Jay Turner:

I and a good number of very talented game devs were laid off by Obsidian as part of the Microsoft sacrificial rituals this morning. If you or anyone you know is looking for a Senior Writer/ND with more than two decades' experience in titles like Dragon Age and Mass Effect, please let me know!

https://www.igdb.com/games/fallout-new-vegas/credits

Not on the New Vegas credits.

An area designer "bre_z".

Looking for work</3

Not sure of full name, but looks like "Bree" as a first name? Nothing like that on the New Vegas credits either.

EDIT:

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/fallout-co-creator-tim-cain-is-out-of-retirement-and-back-at-obsidian/

Fallout co-creator Tim Cain is out of 'semi-retirement' and back at Obsidian

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/fallout/fallout-co-creator-wants-to-make-one-last-game-before-he-retires-for-the-second-time/

Fallout co-creator wants to make one last game before he retires 'for the second time'

So the original Fallout guy is back too in the last several months...and that's despite the studio laying off 25% of its staff.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Timothy_Cain

Timothy "Tim" Cain is the original creator of the Fallout series and setting. He was the lead programmer on Fallout and one of the six people responsible for the game's original design.

EDIT2: and they do say, in the article, that at least some Bethesda people will have some level of contribution:

The only Fallout game in the last two decades to not come from Bethesda was 2010’s Fallout: New Vegas, developed by Obsidian and directed by Sawyer. Although New Vegas has become a fan favorite, Bethesda has maintained control over the franchise. The Rockville, Maryland-based studio will work with Obsidian on the new project, the people said.

So that's people from the whole series being brought in on this.

Yeah it's another spin-off. The Todd won't allow anyone else to do a numbered game. So I'm kinda expecting obsidian to do a Colorado game as that's the next destination for the show.