Im a little out of the loop, why are they suddenly able to do this now? What changed in their capabilities?
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And the greatest and second largest army of the world, didn't even notice a few foreign drones traveling 1700 miles across their land! I wonder who's gonna fall out of a window for this.
Ukraine has been systematically destroying all air defense and radars. What remains is now around Moscow and Putin's home. Even if detected, stopping the drones without defense is hard.
Put in Put out
Maybe. Or maybe they just drove them there in the back of a truck and are saying this to freak the Russians out even more.
TIL Siberia is way bigger than I expected. I knew it was big, but it looks like it’s more than half of Russian landmass. It can’t all be the climate I’m picturing, right? Like it borders Kazakhstan, so I figure at least part of it has to have hot summers
Siberia is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to Siberia.
That is for the infinite universe, not for finite Siberia. However, the largeness of Siberia is much better at demonstrating the concept of infinite than an actually infinite land mass.
Siberia is actually 3/4ths of Russia's landmass. The northern parts are taiga, which are giant uninterrupted forests. The shores of the Arctic Ocean are mostly tundra. In the southern parts the taiga gives way to steppes.
In the northern parts the climate has warm but quite short summers and long cold winters. In the southern part, where most of the population lives, they have the same climate as southern Canada/New England just less humid. The Western parts are also covered by warm winds that originate from the Middle East and hence have higher temperatures than their more Eastern areas. For reference in Novosibirsk, which is the largest city the average yearly summer temperatures reach 25 degrees Celsius but temperatures can also spike to as high as 38 degrees.
So yeah Siberia is not all some barren tundra as most people imagine.
lol, you got me, that’s what twigged it for me- I figured Siberia would start further east of Ukraine than Texas is of California
Though is that comparison corrected for the projection? Texas is farther south than Siberia and with the usual projection used, you can only compare the sizes of things at the same latitude. It's the same thing that makes Greenland look as big as Africa when it's closer to the size of South Africa.
Though is that comparison corrected for the projection?
Yes. Check it out here: https://truesize.net/en/
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Oh, It turns out that what some friends in Russia reported was true. They said they had to queue for about two hours just to buy fuel.
We need some research into how effective drone strikes against refineries are to stop climate change. Are they a net gain in carbon emissions, considering the cost of manufacture and the prevented emissions?
Gotta make it worse.
There's the emissions from while it's on fire plus some of the chemicals in it are worse after being burned like that then in regular emissions. Or become other environmental issues on their own once released/burned.
Then the emissions from building a new one.
It's so much better to just shut it down because no one needs it than blow them up
Then the emissions from building a new one.
In Russia's case, depending on how things go, that many not apply all that much.
If things go far enough it might lead to Ukraine striking construction sites of oil refineries. Still not great, but much less worse than an actual running refinery.
Also on the comparison of "on fire" vs used as fuel - IDK about the emissions during the refining process, but when gas or diesel is burnt as fuel in a car, there are typically several emissions control systems reducing the pollution produced
Well, the oil is going to get burned eventually, so it's a question of "burn the refinery now" or "continuously burn oil from ongoing production now and in the future".
I wonder if Ukraine got the idea from Iran?
I don’t mean that as an accusation, but… well, Iran basically has the world economy’s throat. And I know Ukraine’s drones just got the capability, but Iran had to be a fantastic reminder of how fragile an oil economy is.
Ukraine started their "long range sanctions" program years before Trump attacked Iran. It's getting more attention now because the years of consistent damage are starting to add up, but it's certainly not new. People who pay attention have always known the economic vulnerability of the oil market.
Personally, I say California should be controlled by Australia.
I replied to the wrong post somehow, this was supposed to be under the post of Trump saying Iceland should be under US control.
It probably makes a bit more sense there (I also don't think California should be under Australia's control, it was just snark)
I also don't think California should be under Australia's control
Too bad, we have already established a beachhead with the eucalyptus.
I found your comment to be very appropriate - even for this post. And I agree with you.
Well, they both might benefit from eachother's expertise in fighting wildfires...
Australia is a bad choice cause they've been low-key screwing up their country quite badly.
I'd prefer someone less racist than the current California locals, not more.
I imagine a huge game of whack-a-mole between Russia and Ukraine. Russia moving air defenses trying to anticipate Ukrainian strikes, and increasingly failing.
You can move air defenses but you can’t move the refineries, bridges and other infrastructure
Quick cover the refineries! Oh shit they but Moscow, redirect the defenses to cover Moscow! Oh fuck they hit Moscow, redirect the defenses to reinforce Putin's bunker! Oh blyat, they hit the refineries...
There’s accusations that they’re mostly kept around Moscow and Putin’s compound, and stay there.
Which is pretty stupid IMO, as I imagine killing Putin is a Pandora’s Box Ukraine does not want to open. And shelling civilians in Moscow is just cruel, and makes no tactical sense in lieu of other targets…
You're probably right. It's never wise to make a martyr out of your enemy, and Zelensky is vastly more wise than Putin. And Trump.
Well, Putin is actually a “moderate” of sorts in Russian politics. There are some scary, more nationalist and extremist, figures he keeps in line that would be happy to fill the power vacuum.
It’s not even predicable anymore, as Putin’s already killed the most “obvious” popular ones, like Prigozhin.
That’s what I meant.
Maybe they could kill Putin, without him becoming a martyr. But Ukraine doesn’t know what comes after Putin.
In a country with so many nukes, that could be a literally catastrophic gamble.
That's a good point. I didn't know there were hardliners with that much power.
If you’re interested in further reading, ISW sometimes covers this figures in their Ukraine updates.
You might be particularly interested in the nearly successful Wagner rebellion, where a Russian mercenary company drove a convoy to Moscow and almost made it, largely unopposed by the Russian military. Some joined him:
Putin was always paranoid, but this is the reason for the extra recent paranoia, FYI.
I remember the Wagner accident and can't understand why he stopped. He could have literally had a successful coup and then just... Didn't?
He had at max 25000 people under his personal control (and probably only a fraction of that). An actual full march on Moscow (a city of 13 million people located over 1000 km away) would have been beyond doomed unless a ton of people flipped to him very quickly including the logistics to keep them moving. Maybe it was hoped for but didn’t happen. Also, despite the potential for the Ukraine War to go in a terrible direction for Putin with this distraction from the Ukrainian offensive, at no point did Putin attempt to negotiate giving up Shoigu and Gerasimov (which Prigozhin had hoped for) and in fact he wouldn’t deign to speak to him at all. So he didn’t flip the forces he needed to win and the leverage he had for the alternate goal turned out to be useless.
He COULD have fought anyway but that would be essentially throwing away the lives of him and his men, bringing bloody civil war to Russia to no benefit, damaging the “special military operation” they had fought in, and probably end terribly for their extended families also… not a great legacy for nationalist types. So the option to surrender and set up shop in Belarus, while not likely to end well for Prigozhin, was at least a chance rather than certain death. And much better results for the other issues.
Can you imagine being a comedian playing a president on TV then get elected actual president and then get handed one of the largest existential crises in the country's history and just acing it?
I think we should have way more comedians in power, like I think Jon Stewart would also be an amazing leader, as would Stephen Colbert.



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