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[–] 75 points 4 months ago (27 children)

My store also have Unfrozen Ice Cubes

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (22 children)

    Americans buy water in plastic jugs??

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Some towns still get water to their houses through leaded pipes. This is the most economical way for those people to get water. Others don't trust their water even if it technically meets EPA standards. And some places just have water that tastes really bad.

    Most of America gets water from a tap and maybe filters it.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Others don't trust their water even if it technically meets EPA standards.

    Less "don't trust the water", more "don't trust the EPA". And under this administration, who can blame them.

    It's a shame that our options are "Lead and PFAS" or "Microplastics and probably PFAS" (not to mention the plastic waste itself and the wild inefficiencies of transporting water by fucking truck of all things)

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    I happen to live where the tap water is excellent. It's from ancient, underground aquifers. The only issue is a little bit high arsenic, which I filter out, but that's not really necessary, I've been told.

    It's not sustainable, eventually the water will run out, but for now, it's pretty good.

    So, no, this American doesn't buy water in plastic jugs.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Wait, there’s arsenic and the customer has to filter it out? What do the water company do then?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Mine expects me to filter literal shit out. More months than not we get boil orders for "high fecal coloform bacteria". And the notices come weeks after the testing; so that always makes you feel good.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    They probably have a well, this no water company. My water is crazy high in iron and manganese, our softener needs to be replaced and a new filter needs to be installed before we can drink from our well. Pain in the ass but at least all our grey water is cost of pumping electricity only.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    Have you never heard of such a concept? Some people do it because they are going camping or in case the water goes out in a storm or rarely if the water from the tap is of dubious quality.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, yeah of course, but preparing camping supplies and going for groceries seems not quite the same thing.

    As a European, being longer than maybe a weekend cut off from external help (or the general concept of a natural disaster as a possible occurence) is not really a thing. Worst that happens is some flooding near rivers and the coast on rare occasions.

    Dubious water quality is also not a problem people have to deal with on a frequent basis, at least in germany. You can give your landlord major shit if you don't have access to proper, clean water. (If you own your place it is your problem of course)

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I need to get a bunch of "fresh, never frozen" stickers to put on bagged ice.

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  • [–] 54 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Why would I buy frozen ice cubes? I have no time to microwave, I'd rather buy fresh ones

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Why don't they just put these things into the ocean and solve global warming?

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  • [–] 148 points 4 months ago (48 children)

    If you are into fancy looking cocktails this product makes sense. Making clear ice cubes at home is not easy.

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  • [–] 68 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    If you are into making fancy cocktails then you can get into making fancy ice

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  • [–] 83 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You can make these arguments about literally any prepackaged product. I’m not defending this ice, but come on. You can make anything yourself, so long as you have the equipment, time, and money. Paying for someone else to have done it for you is about convenience, and is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    If you’re into making fancy ice, then you can get into making your own purified water using complete combustion. If you’re into making purified water with complete combustion then can get into making your own hydrogen, carbon, and oxygen. If you’re into making your own hydrogen, carbon, and oxygen then you can get into making your own universe.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    I have a very well stocked home bar and enjoy making fancy cocktails. My tiny ass freezer barely has room for the 5lb bag of ice I keep in there, let alone space for a fuckin mini cooler to make clear ice in. I also lack prep space to carve ice in my kitchen. You can make fancy drinks without fancy ice. It'll still taste the sam, it just won't look as pretty in the glass

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Yes... First step buy fancy ice maker that freezes ice in one direction, second step make fancy ice, third step put it in the glass, fourth step pour whiskey on it

    these arent occult secrets that take years of study and meditation

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Worth noting that the fancy ice maker is just like a 30 dollar ice tray, with insulation and silicone mold.

    It does take a long time to make a little ice compared to normal freezing.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    A bartender I worked with made his in a little igloo cooler, of course then you one big block that you have to cut into functionally-sized cubes. But he would also do cool shit like suspend pine needles into it the block so each cube had a little sprig coming out of it after they were frozen and cut.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago* (11 children)

    You just need to keep the water agitated as it freezes to prevent bubbles forming in it, and they sell machines specifically for this that would pay for themselves in no time over buying pre-made fancy ice cubes. They even have ones that make spheres.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    you can also freeze the ice in an insulated container with no lid. that makes air bubbles and impurities collect at the bottom, after which you can cut that part off.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Isn't this the reason for using hot water to make ice?

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    That may help slightly, as it lowers the water’s ability to hold dissolved gasses. So boiling it beforehand will force out a lot of the gas that would have become air bubbles. But it’s not perfect, and results vary a lot. There are two main ways to get clear ice:

    1. Keep it moving while it freezes, so the air bubbles can escape
    2. Insulate it so it only freezes from one direction.

    Basically, the air bubbles cause foggy ice. And air bubbles tend to get trapped because water freezes from the outside (where the cold air is touching it) first. This forms a hard shell, which then traps the gas and causes foggy ice. By agitating the water, you ensure that it doesn’t start freezing until all of the water is ready to freeze. It prevents the shell from forming first, meaning gas can escape the center of the cubes as it freezes.

    For the second method, by insulating it, you ensure that the water freezes from one direction. For instance, if you fill an ice chest/cooler with water (effectively insulating it from the sides and bottom) and throw it in the freezer without a lid, the top half of the cooler will be clear ice and the bottom will be foggy. Because as the top freezes, the gas is able to escape down towards the bottom of the cooler. So your ice doesn’t get murky until the gas runs out of room at the bottom of the cooler.

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  • [+] -4 points 4 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    That does exactly what I said in the second method. It insulates everything except the top, so it freezes in one direction. So I guess thanks for proving my point?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Sounds like work. People buying this ice likely either don’t care or don’t want to spend the time.

    I’d never buy this, because I don’t even use ice, and if I did, I wouldn’t care about its shape. Seems silly to me.

    But I can’t disparage anyone who sees that market, and that means it’s worth doing as a business, to some degree, probably.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    This is overly complicated.

    The practical answer is directional freezing. Put the mold for the thing you want to be clear in a small cooler (or buy an insulated mold thing), be sure there is a hole in the bottom, fill it with water and put it in your deep freezer. Voilà clear ice for whatever purpose.

    You don't need to agitate it or boil it or use special water, just use tap water and the right set up and it works fine.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Isn't it as simple as just boiling the water and then freezing it?

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    No. You need to freeze in in an insulated container with only one side exposed so it all freezes in 1 direction. Impurities get pushed to the opposite side and you are left with clear ice.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    There are so many dumb as shit comments in this thread about agitating and boiling and purifying water and you've got the actual answer, thank you.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    You've really got your knickers in a twist over this. Is this something deeply personal to you?

    Calling people "dumb as shit" cause they have different methods than yours is wildly arrogant, and doing is so incessantly touches on mental illness.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    I had a few bourbons last night and over-commented to be sure. Mea culpa. I spent quite a lot of time learning to make clear ice and I had to navigate all of this BS to get to the easy solution.

    As a critique of your comment, I didn't resort to ad hominem I was talking about the comments themselves.

    At the same time, there's a little bit of pot and kettle action going on here which is not lost on me.

    Have a great day.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    "pot and kettle"

    I left literally one comment on this entire thread, if that's the same as me having my knickers in a twist and calling people dumb as shit for having methods that differ from my own, then I guess I'm a pot.

    Did I call it an ad hominem? Not all insults are ad hominems. "You're wrong because you're dumb as shit" is an ad hominem. "You're dumb as shit because you're wrong" isn't.

    You didn't premise your conclusions upon the insults, so I wouldn't call them ad hominems. It's still an overreaction though, not to mention unnecessarily rude.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago*

    Go reread. I never called anyone "dumb as shit", just the comments. Rude? Sure I'll own that though.

    I'm pretty sure you left more comments than one on what I wrote. Your commentary sure has the feel of "pretty worked up" but I won't pretend to be a psychologist and tell you it's a sign of mental illness: that's a thing that's reserved for real assholes on the Internet.

    Edit: Yeah I left 4 comments in one chain and you got me twice. Seems like you have the same kind of itch to comment when the mood strikes. If you've got an excuse I'm sure I'll hear about it.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    It's not hard, it just isn't particularly efficient or convenient. The standard method is to use a bunch more water that you want to become actual ice, make it in large insulated blocks, then chop at the end. I have a little insulated tray that makes two at a time. They come out pretty clear, but at least half the water used is essentially waste to create a clear cube. The top half being still ice, but full of little bubbles, not clear. If I was throwing a party, as people are want to do on summer weekends, and I wanted many many big clear ice cubes then I'd seriously consider buying a box load.

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  • [+] -7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    To get clear ice you have to freeze it slowly, basically just at the freezing mark (32°C/0°F) which is a warmer temperature than most people have their freezer set to. It's not difficult in an objective sense, it just requires rubbing a couple of brain cells together and a tiny morsel of effort which is apparently more than a lot of people can muster.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You don't need a separate production chain made specifically for your homemade drink to look fancy on your auntie's photo!

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    Believe it or not some of us like pretty things to enjoy for ourselves, not to put on social media.

    And big clear ice melts more consistently in a way that better maintains coldness longer while maintaining a slower pace of dilution. It does make a difference to flavor.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    I'd view it as handy thermal mass, useful when shipping other frozen items.

    That box is a bit easier to stack than a bag of ice like most other grocery stores have.

    And much more expensive.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago

    Packaging makes sense, too. We’ve been buying bagged ice forever. In this case, your ice has stricter quality control.

    I have no need for this, but there’s clearly a market for it. I can’t disparage anyone for finding a market.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    I remember when buying bottled water seemed ridiculous.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Until you need like 1000L at once or 10kg of ice.
    Go find place in your freezer to cool down 10L of clear ice.
    Spoiler: This won't be only 10L of space you will need.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    But they don't stock 10l of them. 10l of ice has always been available in like the freezer in the front of a store. For parties and shit.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Idk what you are trying to tell me in response to my parent comment.

    My point was that bulk amounts of ice or water in bulk has it's needs even if you could run the tap for 1000L into a water dispenser. Having it quick and accessible vs having it cheap(er) and labor/resource intensive (after all, 1000L of water doesn't freeze for free)

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Ultra pure slow melting.... ok... it melts just like regular water

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Extra micro plastics infused for the smooth slower melt

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Though if you're using a plastic ice cube tray to make ice cubes, there's a good chance you're bringing your own microplastics.

    Source: got a metal ice cube tray and noticed that weird "old ice" flavour and subtle sheen on the drink surface as it melted is no longer there.

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  • [+] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)
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    It comes in two pieces, a bottom tray, and a grid that is hinged and has a handle. Then, to break the ice, you just torque the handle, which shifts the grid angle, forcing each cube to move and come free. Works best if you move the ice to a different container at this point but you don't have to.

    If you do a search for "metal ice tray", it should come up in the images (to avoid linking an amazon image).

    I like it better than the plastic trays for this. Both can be a pain in the ass but in different ways. Plastic trays can snap when you bend them (haven't had one snap in half but I have had one snap some of the structural supports) and often the ice just settles back in its place after you loosen it and you need to "bounce" it a bit until the ice turns in the cavity so you can grab it. With the metal tray, it doesn't just free the ice easily when you break it (though still easier than the bouncing game) and if you lift the grid part out, you'll probably need to use a different container or just leave the grid off until you make new ice.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    It's to minimize surface area, making water dilution in cocktails a slower process. An ice sphere would be ideal for this but it's better than ice from your freezer in that specific task.

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