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[–] 88 points 4 months ago (22 children)

Lemmy: Arrrr!

Big Tech: take away their PC and give them some completely locked down box fully under our control, to protect the children of course. And no more physical media!

The only answer to that is probably board games and books.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (16 children)

    As much as people love doom mongering about big-tech coming for your PC, I just dont see it. There's a temporary price spike in some components atm yes, but that will end when the AI bubble pops. Further than that I just dont see what people think is going to happen, outlawing linux? Banning the import of PC components? The amount of damage either of those would do to the economy is so huge It just wouldnt happen.

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  • [–] 49 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Age verification, id verification, mandatory DRM, only allow certified apps from official app stores, block systems not on the approved list from login onto sites, issues using school and government sites. Then payment processors get involved to refuse cash to those not following the program.

    It's a slow squeeze instead of outright ban that leaves Big Tech boxes and Dark Web boxes.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    In retrospect, we dodged a bullet when the Internet developed the way that it did, in an open fashion, at Universities, largely by hippies (and, later, furries).

    Remember Compuserve? And early AOL? I remember Quantumlink (Steve Case's company that eventually turned into AoL) and how my parents had to pay for it by the hour.

    Tech Companies wanted to erect tool booths on computer communication, just like the phone network, but the Internet (and it's open architecture) beat them to the punch. They've been trying to fix that bug ever since. But they figured out that if the interconnect is open, they can still charge a toll if they have root access in the hardware at both sides. Once TVs became computers, it became so much easier.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    But they can't force us to buy. Say they managed to fully stop piracy, there is still the solution not to buy stuff. It's not like we need this to live, and we should do more of "vote with your wallet". Money is the only language they get.

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  • [+] -13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    None of those exist or, as far I am aware, are being proposed for computers though? Yes there are some restrictions being brought in to block access to some content on the web (DRM, ID and age gating) which are shit, but I've heard nothing about using any of that to block access to general computing.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    Apple has always banned you from sideloading anything on an iPhone and now Google is following suit. Soon Google will make sidelong a giant pain in the ass and only available to "developers" with the reason being to scare normal people into thinking doing things how they are done now is "too dangerous" and that they need to nanny us and not give us full control of our devices.

    Microsoft is still desperately trying to shove everyone onto their Microsoft store and their "universal" appx bullshit or whatever. Once enough people have been switched over, its game over for traditional executables.

    For context the Microsoft Store came out in 2012 and was a big reason why Valve went all-in on Linux because they could see what Microsoft's long term goal was here from a mile away.

    It's been 13 years of slow build up to this.

    You are the frog in the slowly boiling pot.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I dont really consider Phones to be general purpose computing device because they have always been very locked down, yes google is making android worse but it has pretty much always been a walled garden with a rusty but technically open back door.

    I think the fact that microsoft started trying 14 years ago to push people away from standard executables and still has not made significant inroads tells you all you need to know there. Window's fundamental value proposition is its backwards compatibility, Linux has no interest in locking things down even if it did it would be forked to a free version in hours. The only one where there might be a case there is on mac.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    No, these are things tested on gaming and phones. If it works and there isn't much resistance it'll come to regular computers too. First you had Steam for games, then came the iphone with an app store and then it became a thing in general computing. That's how things go.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I have the feeling that the AI bubble isn't going to burst as everyone expects, it will, but I don't think it will restore prices to the good old days

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    Even if prices fall, the economic damage will be severe and nobody will be in the mood for spending much on components. Folks have already probems and jobs are cut at the height of the bubble so that's not going to end well.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    End goal is to make humans idiots at computing so all they know is bezosnet with an ai slopbot to ask what you want. Very idiocracy style.

    Then us nerds are the minority and there won't be a market for hardware so it will be dissolved. I give this 10 years.

    Hell, we are already the minority. 99% of humans use a phone as a computer and store everything in centralized cloud services. I don't know 1 person who stores stuff on their hard drive anymore (if they know what a hard drive is, its a miracle).

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    I don’t know (people) who store stuff on a HD anymore

    Yeah I’m finding this too, people just opting to save in a cloud.

    I do some stuff on iPad or iPhone like the payments, I think their ecosystem is probably the pick for that and I’m degoogling that as well. All that is sent to my PC though, and the records stored in my hard drives.

    I use clouds as little as possible and anything that automatically sent to one, if it is, is on my hard drives as well.

    Dropbox continually asks me to update my storage. I just don’t use it any more.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    There’s a temporary price spike in some components atm yes, but that will end when the AI bubble pops.

    Just like temporary gas price hikes... right? Right? Riight?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    They don't have to ban imports, just control WHO can import. And as long as those companies are jnder their thumb, they can control which consumers can have what.
    On the damage side. Personal purchases of components pales in comparison to commercial. So they could live with damage to the personal sector. And of course it will make a whole new way for the to extract profit via yet another middle man.

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  • [–] 76 points 4 months ago

    "Piracy is a service problem."

    We have a service problem.

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  • [–] 40 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I haven't watched something with ads in it for many years.

    Y'all know how.

    Only time is when I stay in hotels and watch their cable. It's so weird and insulting after freeing myself from them for so long. It breaks up the pace and basically ruins the entire experience.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago*

    Maybe look into getting a GL.inet travel router with WiFi and a Chromecast/Android stick. I use that when I travel. Setup a WiFi network on the travel router and setup the Chromecast on it for when you're at the hotel.

    At the hotel, either jack the travel router into a network port then use your phone to sign in to the hotel's network, or configure Repeater/WISP to get the travel router to connect to and re-broadcast the hotel WiFi (again using your phone or PC to sign in). Going Repeater/WISP brings a sizeable performance hit due to the lack of radios but it's definitely do-able.

    If you're hosting Jellyfin externally, job done. If not, you can configure OpenVPN/Wireguard on the travel router and your home router and connect privately that way.

    Source: Tech worker who had a requirement to be overseas 80% of the year in different hotels :)

    https://www.gl-inet.com/collections/travel-routers

    https://wifirepeater.org/openwrt-wisp-repeater-mode-configuration/

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  • [–] 129 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    The verge: "it started with ads and blabla".

    No.

    It started when people were pirating and life was good. Then the streaming came with a good product and a fair price -> people agreed with that and people stopped pirating.

    Companies started to enshitify the product, we are now at this point.

    I am not suggesting you what to do.

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  • [–] 34 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Maybe I should start running ads on my jellyfin server. Something like "want unlimited bluey for a weekend? Clear and load the dishwasher twice this week"

    Or "want +16 content? Start being an adult and use the toilet brush"

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  • [–] 62 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    That's why I subscribe to Jellyfin Plus Pro Premium Ad-Free.

    The others had their chance. They chose greed.

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago

    Jellyfin Plus Pro Premium Ad-Free truly is the best service available. My favorite part is it's streaming service agnostic, I actually own the media, and it's immune from a corporation taking media away from the particular streaming service because they wanted to make their own streaming service!

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  • [–] 56 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    just fucking torrent it all you losers. a vpn sub is cheaper than netflix.

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago

    Not on my media server it ain't.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    I love jellyfin streaming 😀

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    This. Domain and static IP cheaper than streaming services.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Since when does a static IP address cost less than a streaming service? Domains sure. But a static is like $20-30 a month. I use dynamic DNS for any services that need to access the WAN side of my firewall (very very few) and I use tailscale for all things on my local network I need to access from outside. I would never let my media server or NAS touch the WAN.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago

    🏴‍☠️

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago

    .... Ublock origin, Jellyfin.

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  • [–] 40 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    It really is. I've been using an Nvidia Shield for my living room TV. All of a sudden this week it showed a Lidl ad right there on the homescreen. Those fuckers. Replacement is on its way, fuck Nvidia.

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  • [–] 55 points 4 months ago (4 children)
    1. That's Google, not Nvidia
    2. Just install another launcher like Projectivity
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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I had no idea, on both counts: that Google weedled its way in there too, and that a different launcher was even an option. I will look into that, thanks!

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    What did you end up choosing as your replacement?

    I have a TV streaming device that needs replaced and I've struggled to decide what to replace it with.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    On high seas there are no ads arr... 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I saw great potential in streaming. Then physical media started to evaporate. Then everyone started to have their own streaming platform. Then came the ads.

    By the time I could have afforded them, it got enshittified. Back to swashbuckling I guess.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I appreciate the article points out AppleTV as being the only one without ads at this point. They also have great shows and the fidelity of the video is good.

    Tim Cook sucks at this point, but who ever is running the TV business is doing a good job.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Stremio your way out of it. I see so few ads in my life that it triggers me whenever I do.

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yet one more thing pushing people to Piracy...

    There is nothing more maddening than advertising during a show that wasn't written for commercial breaks.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago

    I:m so used to block ads on every platform I use. That everytime I'm forced to use an infected version of said platform I'm shocked by the amount of ads that are being shuved down your throat.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Good thing uBO exists, and uBOL for Chromium.

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  • I mean... I wouldn't say that the 3€ I pay for my torbox monthly are so much money as to be considered a luxury but I guess not everyone can afford that much for a sub...

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    This was the plan the entire time

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    It became the thing it sought to destroy: cable

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    its really funny how this is so much the way cable went.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I must be living a very luxurious life then. Jellyfin has kept the same price for ad-free 'streaming', as has Stremio (so far).

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago

    Never seen adds in the last 2 decades.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    🏴‍☠️

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    No streaming then.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Stremio + Real-Debrid = adfree streaming.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    JellyFin + your own media = ad free streaming. I detest ads and general streaming services. Whenever you want to talk about a show, you have to preface it with 'what streaming service is it on'?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (7 children)

    Sure but that requires infrastructure. Have you seen the price of storage these days?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    It's still not bad if you're buying old SAS drives. At this point, anything 4TB or less is fine, and for most people that's plenty to start with.

    If you're ripping DVD and BluRay content, you probably will gobble up space quickly without re-encoding it, but otherwise you can store content from streaming services with ease.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    My point was more that Stremio with debrid costs maybe $50/yr and requires minimal knowledge/maintenance, as well as having other benefits (depending on the debrid service.)

    If you have zero care in the world about storing the media, Stremio makes much more sense imho.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I can only speak for myself, but any such service can only be looked at as a temporary solution. How long before that goes away? With your own media (be it ripped from disks you own or obtained elsewhere), it's not temporary.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    I built my 32tb server a couple of years ago when drive prices were reasonable, but many of the rips on it are strait remuxes. Now that another drive or two is not likely affordable anytime soon, I'm re-encoding them to x265 to reclaim a bunch of space.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    That is the unfortunate thing, hosting your own media does take storage, but I still think overall it would be cheaper depending on the amount of storage and how much you are spending on Streaming services. A quick look says people are spending $100 or so on services each month. So $1,200 a year. You can easily build a 30tb array and the NAS for under that, even with today's outrageous prices, as as you find more storage, expand upon it. 30tb is going to host a whole lot of media. Let's say the average 30 minute TV show is 0.5 gb and a movie is 2gb, you can store something like 20,000 TV episodes and 10,000 movies. I think you'd be just fine, and that's a payback of one year. And you can easily share that with your friends and family without paying additional fees.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Stremio is piracy so has no cost.

    Paying for a debrid service is optional, you can use a VPN instead, but debrid just makes it cleaner since that is built into many of the addon options.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    The end result is that advertisers dictate content, like they have done with traditional broadcast.

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