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[–] 85 points 4 months ago (4 children)

They don't mind sharia law as long as it's their christian nationalist flavor of it.

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    [–] 26 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I'm ready for Shakira law whenever, wherever.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    So if they aren't adhering to the Constitution, then why should they keep benefiting from any part of it? Why should they even be part of the Union?

    I would be fucking FURIOUS if I was a tax payer in Texas. What a shithole.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    There’s nothing better for turning Christians into atheists than making them actually read the Bible. I approve.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah its ironic that the actual teachings of jesus and the gospel are about as far from Christo-fascism as one can be.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah, well at least it's not some Middle Eastern religion, with funny hats and a sacred book, that builds big towers to noisily advertise itself to the people around it...

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    Oklahoma was all set to hand out the Trump Bibles, at full retail cost of $60 per. But they got talked down from that.

    Oklahoma also has an anti-establishment clause stronger than the one in the US constitution. That would have probably helped get in the way.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Wouldn't it be nice to separate religion from the government

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    The Christan Taliban are rather active in the US.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Damn Texas really looks like a shithole

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    In my Texas high school, many decades ago now, my English teacher made us read the bible, saying that it was only for its literary and historical value. It had nothing to do with how she was an extremely religious Mormon.

    Apparently.

    At least it wasn't the official curriculum. Just her being an awful human.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Why didn't you read the book of Mormon?

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    That's a sound logical argument that immediately exposes her hypocrisy, and it didn't occur to me to bring it up back then.

    I totally would have, though. She caused a lot of problems due to her poor and biased teaching. I never understood the purpose of English classes back then, so I always asked a lot of questions that inevitably made her look bad. By the end of that class, she absolutely hated me and was marking my assignments worse than other people's, even when the criteria was purely objective. My father had to schedule a meeting with the Principal to get her to stop.

    Or maybe she didn't teach the Book of Mormon partially because it obviously has zero literary merit. Every passage from it that I've read sounds like a person with an eighth grade education who is trying to sound like the King James version of the bible. I mean, "smite" (or smote) is a cool sounding word for a middle schooler, so a middle schooler who was trying to write a new book of the bible might use that word way more often than makes sense.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    but it's "our flavor of sharia law so it's good".

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    This can't be real. Tell me this isn't real.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    I am strongly against pushing any religion to anyone. This is fucked up.

    Cherry picked parts of the book spiced with conservative lies being stuffed into young minds is pure evil.

    But if they actually managed to get the kids read the entire book, that could be a good thing. I read the Bible out of curiosity when I was in school and it was the most effective inoculation against theism I can think of.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    It’s wild that Texas even wants to mandate a reading list at the state level. Aren’t there just simple regional differences to account for?

    I wouldn’t expect a school in San Diego to mandate reading John Steinbeck whose stories are mainly set in Central and Northern California for example.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    The irony is that might even produce more atheists than not reading the Bible, especially depending on which sections they read. That book is fucking awful and most Christians don't actually know what's in it...

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Closer?

    That is literally Sharia law (at least what bigots think sharia law is)

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    So not literally? Words matter.

    I'm all over this post correcting. It's not for them, it's for hopefully us. Messaging matters, words matter.

    Tighten it the fuck up.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    if Sharia law refers to religious laws made by religious fundamentalists, then it's literally true

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    It doesn't; Sharia is the body of Islamic religious law drawn from the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad.

    While "Sharia law" is a set of religious laws, arguably made by fundamentalists, that doesn't make all religious laws made by fundamentalists "Sharia law." You're free to say it's "just like" or "analogous to," but the contention here is that it would be in everyone's best interest if we respected the meanings of words - including "literally." A Ford Focus is not literally a Toyota Corolla, though they are both sedans. In many ways, though, a Ford Focus is like a Toyota Corolla.

    tl;dr "Sharia law" refers to the body of Islamic religious law drawn from the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad, not any religious laws made by religious fundamentalists. Respecting words is a matter of respect for the subjects and fosters respect for the speaker.

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  • Not a hill I am willing to die in.

    But the way Sharia law is usually misused it might as well refer to religious based laws and policing, rather than specifically muslim.

    Language is that flexible.

    Plus, it is fun when the most Islamophobic and racist people are the ones pushing Sharia law the hardest.

    Religious fundamentalists making laws is terrible regardless of religion.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I wonder if all those SECOND AMENDMENT nutballs in Texas will get just as worked up over the FIRST AMENDMENT being violated here

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    [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    All it takes is the Insurrection Act, to force this shit on all 50.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Good, do it.

    There's no better way to raise a generation of atheists than reading the Bible. It's ridiculous.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Never got the idea of 'studying' a book when no one in the room has read it front to back, even the priest.

    If you want a solid leg-up on Christians, "I have" is the best comeback to "read the Bible".

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    Unpopular opinion but I think the bible should be taught in schools not as indoctrination but discussed and covered. It really is a foundational document of Western Civilization.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    I've started reading the Bible for the first time recently for similar reasons (NRSVUE). I talk a lot of shit, i should probably have some kind of idea of what it actually says. Then I'll move on to the Quran if I'm still motivated.

    I'm only some way into genesis and it's not great.

    Edit to add: Though, I am an adult who made that decision for himself..

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Pro-tip: Skip all of the genealogy passages (Abraham begat Ishmael, etc.), there's nothing there of interest and you won't miss a thing. I recommend the King James version, as it's been around for 400 years or so; also, a concordance is very useful.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Reading fiction was required in my schooling as well. This particular thing doesn't feel that different.

    If it moves on to mandating prayer and citing a pledge daily, well that would be a wonderful time for protest or violence.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Okay but the last part of this sentence doesn't adhere to anything.

    What are we talking about?

    And once we figure that out, is it in a way that the believers will understand?

    And if not, are you armed?

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