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[+] Geodad@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago* (13 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago (11 children) The amanitin toxin is heat stable, remaining toxic whether eaten raw or cooked. The mechanism of action of amatoxin is by inhibiting RNA polymerase, causing disruption of transcription of mRNA. As a result, hepatocytes cannot synthesize key protein coding genes, leading to the disintegration of nucleoli and pathologically centrilobular hepatic necrosis. This leads to the insidious onset of liver failure over 48 hours. Late onset (more than six hours after ingestion) of vomiting and watery diarrhea occur due to the second component in some of these mushrooms which are phallotoxin. Lepiota species lack phallotoxins so may not have the onset of vomiting and diarrhea until after 12 hours post-ingestion, or may just present with symptoms of liver failure at 24 hours post ingestion. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK431052/ Wow ok 😬 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children) Well, heat stable to a point, though not sure how tasty mushroom ashes would be permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* Mushrooms, as long as its done slowly, can be cooked for extremely long times at extremely high temperatures as the spongy matrix that makes up the majority of their tissue is far more stable to heat than other protiens. They tend to go deep into maillard style caramelization type reactions instead of carbonizing as ling as you're not incinerating them rapidly. Edit: autocorrupt "Fixed" a word for me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Let's find out permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago I mean, fried mushrooms are delicious. Just pick the right ones, so you can re-try the recipe later. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (6 children) I love reading about Death Cap mushrooms and their cousin, Destroying Angel. By the time symptoms appear, you've already got irreversible damage. Specifically for Destroying Angel, as of 2016 there was about a 50 percent survival rate, but by 2023 that number had jumped to 85-90%. There's no antidote. Mostly treatment is to hydrate the absolute fuck out of you so that you're peeing out the toxin and pumping you full of electrolytes. The key to survival is detecting it as soon as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (4 children) Were they the mushrooms that woman in Australia used to murder her ex-in-laws? Allegedly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Geodad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Good. I read some article that made it sound like the evidence wasn't good or something. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) That was the Death Caps. They're a bit more survivable than Destroying Angel, but I wouldn't want to eat either of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago 2 out of 4 died. That also sounds like 50% to me. You can have that science for free. A little treat. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago Someone get the last half of this comment to RFK immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otter@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago (11 children) The amanitin toxin is heat stable, remaining toxic whether eaten raw or cooked. The mechanism of action of amatoxin is by inhibiting RNA polymerase, causing disruption of transcription of mRNA. As a result, hepatocytes cannot synthesize key protein coding genes, leading to the disintegration of nucleoli and pathologically centrilobular hepatic necrosis. This leads to the insidious onset of liver failure over 48 hours. Late onset (more than six hours after ingestion) of vomiting and watery diarrhea occur due to the second component in some of these mushrooms which are phallotoxin. Lepiota species lack phallotoxins so may not have the onset of vomiting and diarrhea until after 12 hours post-ingestion, or may just present with symptoms of liver failure at 24 hours post ingestion. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK431052/ Wow ok 😬 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children) Well, heat stable to a point, though not sure how tasty mushroom ashes would be permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* Mushrooms, as long as its done slowly, can be cooked for extremely long times at extremely high temperatures as the spongy matrix that makes up the majority of their tissue is far more stable to heat than other protiens. They tend to go deep into maillard style caramelization type reactions instead of carbonizing as ling as you're not incinerating them rapidly. Edit: autocorrupt "Fixed" a word for me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Let's find out permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago I mean, fried mushrooms are delicious. Just pick the right ones, so you can re-try the recipe later. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (6 children) I love reading about Death Cap mushrooms and their cousin, Destroying Angel. By the time symptoms appear, you've already got irreversible damage. Specifically for Destroying Angel, as of 2016 there was about a 50 percent survival rate, but by 2023 that number had jumped to 85-90%. There's no antidote. Mostly treatment is to hydrate the absolute fuck out of you so that you're peeing out the toxin and pumping you full of electrolytes. The key to survival is detecting it as soon as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (4 children) Were they the mushrooms that woman in Australia used to murder her ex-in-laws? Allegedly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Geodad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Good. I read some article that made it sound like the evidence wasn't good or something. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) That was the Death Caps. They're a bit more survivable than Destroying Angel, but I wouldn't want to eat either of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago 2 out of 4 died. That also sounds like 50% to me. You can have that science for free. A little treat. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children) Well, heat stable to a point, though not sure how tasty mushroom ashes would be permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* Mushrooms, as long as its done slowly, can be cooked for extremely long times at extremely high temperatures as the spongy matrix that makes up the majority of their tissue is far more stable to heat than other protiens. They tend to go deep into maillard style caramelization type reactions instead of carbonizing as ling as you're not incinerating them rapidly. Edit: autocorrupt "Fixed" a word for me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Let's find out permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago I mean, fried mushrooms are delicious. Just pick the right ones, so you can re-try the recipe later. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* Mushrooms, as long as its done slowly, can be cooked for extremely long times at extremely high temperatures as the spongy matrix that makes up the majority of their tissue is far more stable to heat than other protiens. They tend to go deep into maillard style caramelization type reactions instead of carbonizing as ling as you're not incinerating them rapidly. Edit: autocorrupt "Fixed" a word for me permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Let's find out permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago I mean, fried mushrooms are delicious. Just pick the right ones, so you can re-try the recipe later. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago I mean, fried mushrooms are delicious. Just pick the right ones, so you can re-try the recipe later. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (6 children) I love reading about Death Cap mushrooms and their cousin, Destroying Angel. By the time symptoms appear, you've already got irreversible damage. Specifically for Destroying Angel, as of 2016 there was about a 50 percent survival rate, but by 2023 that number had jumped to 85-90%. There's no antidote. Mostly treatment is to hydrate the absolute fuck out of you so that you're peeing out the toxin and pumping you full of electrolytes. The key to survival is detecting it as soon as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (4 children) Were they the mushrooms that woman in Australia used to murder her ex-in-laws? Allegedly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Geodad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Good. I read some article that made it sound like the evidence wasn't good or something. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) That was the Death Caps. They're a bit more survivable than Destroying Angel, but I wouldn't want to eat either of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago 2 out of 4 died. That also sounds like 50% to me. You can have that science for free. A little treat. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (4 children) Were they the mushrooms that woman in Australia used to murder her ex-in-laws? Allegedly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Geodad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Good. I read some article that made it sound like the evidence wasn't good or something. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) That was the Death Caps. They're a bit more survivable than Destroying Angel, but I wouldn't want to eat either of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago 2 out of 4 died. That also sounds like 50% to me. You can have that science for free. A little treat. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Geodad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Good. I read some article that made it sound like the evidence wasn't good or something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Good. I read some article that made it sound like the evidence wasn't good or something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) That was the Death Caps. They're a bit more survivable than Destroying Angel, but I wouldn't want to eat either of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago 2 out of 4 died. That also sounds like 50% to me. You can have that science for free. A little treat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago 2 out of 4 died. That also sounds like 50% to me. You can have that science for free. A little treat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago Someone get the last half of this comment to RFK immediately. permalink fedilink source parent