Wait what, when did anyone mention swastikas? I must have missed that part of the conversation. What I saw is that they said punks wore mickey mouse shirts. Which is a completely different thing.

I'm not here to defend .ml as an instance, I think it's garbage and most of its users are disingenuous trolls and accelerationist edge lords who would rather see the world burn with no plan to rebuild after rather than contribute in any meaningful or reasonable way to any sort of productive discussion whatsoever.

That being said, I've seen JoMiran around on different threads and they don't act like the usual .ml user. There's a couple others too, but they're very much the exception rather than the rule over there. That's all I'm saying.

And I never listened to the sex pistols, but there are plenty of punk bands who hate nazis, and honestly the punk ethos is diametrically opposed to fascism, so that weird subgenre of nazi punk is not only an oxymoron, but they're also just a bunch of posers appropriating the aesthetic and not really punks. They would get chased out of any regular punk venue. Call it gatekeeping if you want but nazis are not punk, even when they try to call themselves that.

Sigh. Anti-NATO and pro-China is not pro-Russia. If anything, we agree with you libs that China and the USA are fighting a proxy war using Russia and Ukraine as condoms.

The US provoked it, Russia started it, then China stepped in and used the opportunity to make Russia completely economically dependent on them.

Russia sucks in so many ways. Ukraine sucks way less because they were the ones who got invaded, and I'm far more on their side, but they have problems too. The people of both countries are being used and thrown away by unaccountable foreign bastards (and domestic bastards in Russia's case).

It's just a game to the people at the top. China wants to limit Western advancement on their western flank, and the US/NATO wants to kill Russians and advance their economic influence into countries previously dominated by Russia.

It's two capitalist markets trying to gain power over each other. We at ml think the solution to this is to bring down capitalism, and the major other communist faction on Lemmy is to do that but bring down the state as well.

Now, does any of this sound like we are pro-Russian to you?