Sigh. Anti-NATO and pro-China is not pro-Russia. If anything, we agree with you libs that China and the USA are fighting a proxy war using Russia and Ukraine as condoms.

The US provoked it, Russia started it, then China stepped in and used the opportunity to make Russia completely economically dependent on them.

Russia sucks in so many ways. Ukraine sucks way less because they were the ones who got invaded, and I'm far more on their side, but they have problems too. The people of both countries are being used and thrown away by unaccountable foreign bastards (and domestic bastards in Russia's case).

It's just a game to the people at the top. China wants to limit Western advancement on their western flank, and the US/NATO wants to kill Russians and advance their economic influence into countries previously dominated by Russia.

It's two capitalist markets trying to gain power over each other. We at ml think the solution to this is to bring down capitalism, and the major other communist faction on Lemmy is to do that but bring down the state as well.

Now, does any of this sound like we are pro-Russian to you?