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[–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (12 children)

In the U.S, it can be argued that it was profiteers that dismantled prohibition. Not society. They’ve pushed the message that “prohibition can’t work” ever since.

How can it work? The most glorious criminal job possible is being a rumrunner, alcohol came custom designed to be an agent of chaos and I don't see how trying to deny that won't just backfire. In my experience growing up the drinking age laws in the US only made things far more dangerous as people drinking under age, it did LITERALLY NOTHING to stop our access to alcohol while making it cooler and more edgey in a way that supercharged our desire to access it.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

    Are you arguing against underage drinking laws to make a case against currently nonexistent prohibition?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

    Essentially yes, I have seen no evidence in my entire life that underage drinking laws save lives or reduce the abuse of alcohol, especially because of how car dependent the US is the only places underage kids can drink they have to drive to and then there are no responsible adults wherever that is which just makes it all WAY more dangerous. It also makes it so most kids introduction to alcohol is through hard liquor because it is way easier to hide and move around.

    It wasn't super uncommon for people from my hometown to die in drunk driving crashes and it is no mystery why to me.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    Is it your position that underage drinking laws should be dismantled as they are the last vestiges of prohibition?

    What's your position on the illegality of narcotics or opiates? Crack cocaine, street fentynal, crystal methamphetamine?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (8 children)

    In general I consider the prohibition and ESPECIALLY the criminalization of drugs to be 99% about people feeling righteous about their beliefs about society and 1% about the actual impact.

    Prohibition is about the righteous satisfaction of violence and control, not really about helping people.

    If you are going to disagree with me prove I am wrong.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    Disagree with what?

    That school children should have access to illicit/highly addictive substances (that I mentioned above), because the pursuit of public health and wellness is hypocritically righteous?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (6 children)

    No because the pursuit of public health for kids is not the same as the pursuit of things that make you feel righteous about protecting kids, they are often existentially opposed as they are in this case.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Uh huh...

    Have you seen studies on the addiction level of opiates, or narcotics?

    What's your solution for dealing with the negative societal outcomes for the levels of addiction in people in a society devoid of any prohibition?

    I assume you will say "legalize everything like Portugal" or something similar. What does that look like to you?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Show me the evidence before you try to find the details in my views to focus in on and distract from the larger point here with.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Evidence of what? That meth, opium and cocaine are addictive?

    Is it your position that they aren't?

    What evidence are you looking for?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Why do you keep hyperfixating on addictiveness I am talking about prohibition?

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