You need to be more specific. If your point is that you literally cannot backprop while doing a forward pass, then sure. But you can certainly do inference then backprop on the outcome...

I fail to see how that is substantially different from a human doing something then reflecting and learning.

You can critique LLMs and transformers generally, but to say it's somehow a problem with backprop is a bit of a stretch.

They're just very neurodivergent.

Genuinely speaking, I don't think they pass the test. The problem is we'll always be judging them on meat logic and experience and I guarantee that whenever the first AGI is created it will be born a tortured slave and denied personhood for profit.

Not really. Chinese room has the conclusion pre-fabricated and tries to construct any sort of pseudo-scientific, fantastical philosophical dressing for some shred of legitimacy. It has absolutely no relation to the real world.

Chinese room is not at all airtight. We don't know what it means to have emotions so we can't prove a Chinese room can't have emotions.

Two points:

• using stem cells so it remained biological brain cells, rather than a mechanical reproduction.
• they directly stimulate it with electricity and it then has a response to that stimuli, they don't seem to be hooking it up to check for additional processes; it's a step up, I guess, from direct stimulation for motor function in a frog - but not anything more revolutionary.

So, guess I'll need to update my post slightly, but the core point remains.

That said, I felt that they were saying for half of it that they were running Doom on a braincell using computer, rather than getting a braincell computer to respond to it for half the article. Oh well.