▲ 326 ▼ Bunnies are metal (lemmy.world) submitted 2 months ago by GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works to c/science_memes@mander.xyz 28 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/51580591
[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 29 points 2 months ago (8 children) teeth would tell you it’s prey permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 50 points 2 months ago Look at the bones man! permalink fedilink source parent [–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (4 children) Teeth will tell you about the animal's own diet - not whether it's being preyed upon. Carnivores and omnivores are preyed on as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 5 points 2 months ago (3 children) aren’t most obligate carnivores not directly eaten often? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (2 children) It depends a bit on your scope. If you think of obligate carnivores as typically very large, possibly apex predators, then they might not be preyed on much in the traditional sense. But carnivores also number insects, arachnids, amphibians, reptiles, birds, and lots of smaller mammals like weasels, bats or cats that are themselves prey to other animals. The point is that being 'predator' does not exclude an animal from also being prey. 'Predator' and 'prey' describe relationships, not mutually exclusive categories. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 8 points 2 months ago i get the point you are making, and i concede it but i was specifically thinking mammal given the context and for which teeth would make it obvious even the smaller ones, cats in natural habitats come to mind are apex, and i remember learning the avoidance of eating them had to do with parasite avoidance when other food was available I did not realize weasels were obligate carnivores and bats were a great example as well permalink fedilink source parent [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago And that's not even getting into the whole fish side of the thing! permalink fedilink source parent [–] stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) *eye placement not teeth. Prey animals have eyes on the sides of their head for better peripheral vision. Predators have eyes on the front for hunting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago same idea, oblique carnivores have special teeth either way the counter argument to my thought was weasels and would work for eye location as well permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 50 points 2 months ago Look at the bones man! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (4 children) Teeth will tell you about the animal's own diet - not whether it's being preyed upon. Carnivores and omnivores are preyed on as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 5 points 2 months ago (3 children) aren’t most obligate carnivores not directly eaten often? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (2 children) It depends a bit on your scope. If you think of obligate carnivores as typically very large, possibly apex predators, then they might not be preyed on much in the traditional sense. But carnivores also number insects, arachnids, amphibians, reptiles, birds, and lots of smaller mammals like weasels, bats or cats that are themselves prey to other animals. The point is that being 'predator' does not exclude an animal from also being prey. 'Predator' and 'prey' describe relationships, not mutually exclusive categories. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 8 points 2 months ago i get the point you are making, and i concede it but i was specifically thinking mammal given the context and for which teeth would make it obvious even the smaller ones, cats in natural habitats come to mind are apex, and i remember learning the avoidance of eating them had to do with parasite avoidance when other food was available I did not realize weasels were obligate carnivores and bats were a great example as well permalink fedilink source parent [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago And that's not even getting into the whole fish side of the thing! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 5 points 2 months ago (3 children) aren’t most obligate carnivores not directly eaten often? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (2 children) It depends a bit on your scope. If you think of obligate carnivores as typically very large, possibly apex predators, then they might not be preyed on much in the traditional sense. But carnivores also number insects, arachnids, amphibians, reptiles, birds, and lots of smaller mammals like weasels, bats or cats that are themselves prey to other animals. The point is that being 'predator' does not exclude an animal from also being prey. 'Predator' and 'prey' describe relationships, not mutually exclusive categories. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 8 points 2 months ago i get the point you are making, and i concede it but i was specifically thinking mammal given the context and for which teeth would make it obvious even the smaller ones, cats in natural habitats come to mind are apex, and i remember learning the avoidance of eating them had to do with parasite avoidance when other food was available I did not realize weasels were obligate carnivores and bats were a great example as well permalink fedilink source parent [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago And that's not even getting into the whole fish side of the thing! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (2 children) It depends a bit on your scope. If you think of obligate carnivores as typically very large, possibly apex predators, then they might not be preyed on much in the traditional sense. But carnivores also number insects, arachnids, amphibians, reptiles, birds, and lots of smaller mammals like weasels, bats or cats that are themselves prey to other animals. The point is that being 'predator' does not exclude an animal from also being prey. 'Predator' and 'prey' describe relationships, not mutually exclusive categories. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 8 points 2 months ago i get the point you are making, and i concede it but i was specifically thinking mammal given the context and for which teeth would make it obvious even the smaller ones, cats in natural habitats come to mind are apex, and i remember learning the avoidance of eating them had to do with parasite avoidance when other food was available I did not realize weasels were obligate carnivores and bats were a great example as well permalink fedilink source parent [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago And that's not even getting into the whole fish side of the thing! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 8 points 2 months ago i get the point you are making, and i concede it but i was specifically thinking mammal given the context and for which teeth would make it obvious even the smaller ones, cats in natural habitats come to mind are apex, and i remember learning the avoidance of eating them had to do with parasite avoidance when other food was available I did not realize weasels were obligate carnivores and bats were a great example as well permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago And that's not even getting into the whole fish side of the thing! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) *eye placement not teeth. Prey animals have eyes on the sides of their head for better peripheral vision. Predators have eyes on the front for hunting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago same idea, oblique carnivores have special teeth either way the counter argument to my thought was weasels and would work for eye location as well permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago same idea, oblique carnivores have special teeth either way the counter argument to my thought was weasels and would work for eye location as well permalink fedilink source parent