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Foreign migrant living illegally in Canada eligible for Ontario welfare, tribunal rules (nationalpost.com)
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[+] [S] -49 points 4 months ago (16 children)

This sends a message (add it to the giant pile of them) to the world that Canada is easily exploitable. Come here illegally, stay long enough and we’ll give you a free ride.

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  • [–] 49 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    came to Canada in 1997 on a temporary work permit. Although his permit expired after four years, he never left.

    He was able to support himself by working cash jobs until 2023

    [applied] last fall

    I'd say 26 years working and trying to find work for 2+ more years is long enough for EI benifits. MPs get a pensions after only 6 years.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I assume he wasn’t paying taxes into the system by working cash jobs.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You can read the article, it says so two paragraphs in.

    What about these employers that are avoiding paying into EI and the other programs?

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    easily exploitable? do you even KNOW how much a person on Ontario Works can get? ESPECIALLY SINCE HE'S HOMELESS?

    HEY EVERYONE IN THE WORLD, COME GET YOUR FREE $343 A MONTH FOR 6 MONTHS!!!!

    fucking idiot.THAT is how much a homeless person in Ontario gets a month from Ontario Works. $343. that's it. a month.

    that's enough for MAYBE a few days worth of food for a homeless person. How do I know? I lived it.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not weighing in here for our against the posted issue however EI payments are weekly not monthly. When I was on paternity leave the high end of those payments was ~560 per week and paternity leave payments are equal to other forms of unemployment.

    Again, I'm not bothering to read the article, or do the digging if this person is eligible. I'm just advising that I think you might be off on the total value that could be received.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (-1 children)

    What the fuck is wrong with you?

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    How dare someone use the services they've been paying into.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Oh so Canada only has employment taxes and nothing else.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    Depends on how much you're making. This guy has probably been below the poverty line the whole time he's been in this country. If he's been making less than the Basic Personal Amount income tax credit that anyone can claim, he wouldn't be paying any tax even if he'd been doing everything by the book and above-board. If he wasn't very far above it, he'd have been paying a pittance—probably less than he was paying out in sales taxes for everything he bought over the course of twenty-odd years.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    I think you'll survive giving him $350 a month for 6 months.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    I disagree and so does this court.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (-1 children)

    they gave him benefits based on "the sheer length of time and the roots the appellant had established while in Canada"

    Yes, because

    Brown said those definitions show the applicant reasonably fell outside the meaning of both tourist and visitor, “given the sheer length of time and the roots the appellant had established while in Canada.”

    No evidence was presented at the tribunal that he had been ordered out of Canada by federal immigration authorities.

    Therefore, he did not fit into the three categories that are excluded from eligibility with respect to immigration status and he was eligible.

    I remember when Harris brought in this legislation. What an incredible self own lol.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    Judging by your incredibly racist comment, you currently lack the mental capacity to read more than a sentence.

    ...he had come to Canada in 1997 on a temporary work permit. Although his permit expired after four years, he never left.

    He was able to support himself by working cash jobs until 2023 when he entered the homeless shelter system, he told the tribunal.

    2026-1997 = 29

    Twenty-nine years of work. That is not a free ride dumbass. Actually read the article before you share your racist viewpoints, and then please do share them so we can clown on you.

    Even if they weren't working, one would have to ask, why not? Is it actually malicious, or something else? All in all, how can we help them become someone who can sustain the capacity to help others?

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