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Doctor Removed From Ontario Medical Association AGM for Refusing to Take Off Watermelon Pin (pressprogress.ca)
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[–] 6 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I definitely care if my doctor is some anti-abortion, patriarchal Christian who votes Conservative, but I hardly doubt wearing a cross or not would indicate their inability to fulfill their role as a physician because of those values.

Either way, a political criticism of genocide is not the same thing as a general religious symbol, so there's no consistency between these cases in the first place. Everything your doctor subscribes to is rooted in their politics, and a watermelon pin that shows solidarity with a nation currently victimized by genocide is like, a pretty bad starting point for this enforcement against political expression.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I don't really care on that... If they either keep their professional life and work life separate, or it doesn't affect it, then that's fine by me.

    If they're anti-abortion and they work in an abortion-adjacent field, they're not going to be that great of a doctor in that field. If they're anti-abortion and are a specialist in ligament surgery, then what does it matter to me? If I'm just here to get my knee fixed as soon as possible then their opinion doesn't come into it, even if their opinion is disgusting to me, and they have a keyring, sticker or pin, I'm not endorsing or supporting it by interacting with them, and while I'd usually support boycotting, it's just not in my interest in that situation.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    It's honestly so bewildering to see so many people just openly admit to not understanding what is wrong with being anti-choice. It isn't because it's "disgusting" it's because it is harmful and it is harmful in a way that is specifically dependent on dehumanizing women. There isn't a person who is anti-choice who also has a fundamental respect for human life in dignity, these two things are incompatible.

    So, yes, whether or not your doctor is capable of authentic empathy is actually pretty crucial to their ability to perform as a healthcare practitioner. Beyond just the reality that they're more likely to discount your pain and suffering due to this, they're also statistically more likely to actually intentionally harm groups of people they view as less than human (racism, sexism, transphobia, ableism, fatphobia). You seem to think the issue is that being anti-choice somehow indicates a skill-level for these tasks, that is an incredible lapse in empathy yourself there bud.

    It is not an opinion to be anti-choice, it is a decision that shows your fundamental values and lack of moral grounding, which yes, makes you ill-qualified for any job where you have power over vulnerable people. Period.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago*

    Like I said, I think it's going to be very hard for an anti-choice doctor to be good at performing abortions, which is why I said about them actually being good at their job. If they're here to give me a knee replacement then it doesn't really come into it, so I can look past that if it means the operation will be done to a higher standard. It doesn't matter if they view me the same as a mechanic fixing a car, or a plasterer patching cracks, it just matters that they have the skills to do the surgery.

    If I had the option, I'd go somewhere else, but when it comes to medical needs that isn't always the case, so it may well better to just close your eyes, bite your tongue, and ignore it, horrible as that is.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Which doctor though? The one you see every now and then to discuss your health trends and medication needs, or the one that's straddling you on a gurney giving you CPR while you're being rushed from an ambulance to an OR?

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    That'd be EMS.

    If the argument is meant to be, "you wouldn't care if they were saving your life," then you don't seem to really understand why I wouldn't want a bigoted doctor that wants me genocided. This mentality is fundamently incompatible with empathy as it requires the selective dehumanization of particular groups for one's own material benefit; the suspension of empathy. Yes, I want my fucking paramedic to have a sense of empathy and I do believe that quality is crucial in order for them to perform their job effectively. Just like how I'd be endangered by a family physician neglecting my needs due to bigotry, I wouldn't even be a statistical anomaly if my paramedic treated me differently because of bigotry and I fucking died for no good reason.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    The radicals would not accept to remove their religious gear, that's part of the point.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    "Radicals" who? Hijabis? Orthodox Jewish men? They wouldn't be radical to refuse and it'd be difficult to write a law that applies to wearing a cross that wouldn't just overwhelmingly be enforced against groups whose religious symbols aren't optional.

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