Authorities brought 20 police cars, five SWAT officers, and drones to her house

https://www.twitch.tv/grammacrackers/clip/CharmingSolidNoodleKevinTurtle-CCpMMy7EX_W4v7_S

update: Found this video from local news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGeb3cuqLxE

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[–] 17 points 5 months ago (14 children)

Just curious about why she was raided. What did the warrant say?

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  • [–] 45 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    Turns out, it's relatively easy to convince the police to bring in a swat team to someone's house, and the police are so chomping at the bit to get out the big boy toys that they don't even question the validity of the call.

    They might say it's a hostage situation, or gunplay, whatever it takes to make action happen without any real question.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Well, if they send someone to look, and it is an actual bad situation, then response time is delayed…

    Of course, as soon as it is seen to be a false call, the person who did the call should be arrested as that’s illegal

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    it's too easy to make an anonymous call, telecoms are shit

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Conspiracy theory:

    Tap for spoilerit's far from impossible to de-anonymize swatters, but they won't go through the effort to do that, let alone prosecute the psychopaths who do this because it's fun for the cops to cosplay as spec ops, everyone gets some fat overtime checks, and the event can be used for PR propaganda to say 'we need this militarized platoon in case something actually does happen'

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It's an interesting theory.

    From what I understand, I worked in an adjacent field a decade ago, The de-anonymize is actually harder than it should be. a voip user gets service from a voip carrier who contracts service from a larger provider, who gets service from on the the biggest carriers. Noone in that chain wants to be responsible for the people below them. There is an unreasonable amount of trust on many carriers to let the clients choose their own ANI. The systems are not designed with accountability anymore. They're all just a hodgepodge, and the smallest 2 levels of carriers get to charge a premium to let people stay untrackable (like cold calls)

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I didn't watch the video (I never do, I want to read). So I assumed there was a warrant, when in fact there does not appear to have been time for that.

    Police received a report of an active shooter with one shooting casualty. That is what prompted the response and that's all I wanted to know.

    The fact that the response happened isn't something I personally think should be left up to the police (they shouldn't be allowed to decide which calls are valid). The fact that this was obviously an overreaction on the part of the police (that so many cops showed up) is still ridiculous in my view.

    What I really want is for there to be an investigation into who made the report and preferably for the book to be thrown at them.

    I don't disagree with you that this was a ridiculous display of force. But your answer didn't answer my question.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    For exigent circumstances like an active shooter or hostage situation they do not need a warrant to roll up. That is what makes these kind of issues so concerning. SWATTING has been going on since streaming became more main stay for any reason or no reason at all. Anyone can do it and repercussions on the caller are almost none existent so it is seen as a "fun" way to cause mayhem.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    You ever watch Police academy? You remember Tackleberry? That's basically the United States police.

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