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[–] 28 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

We can't know whether the prevalence rates have changed or by how much and its foolish to assume it's only because of better awareness. The world we exist in has changed immensely and we are subject to the affects of those environmental changes.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

    further than that, our cultural expectations of what is 'normal' have shifted drastically over the past two generations.

    i'd argue that what once in the 'normal', is no longer, hence leading to greater need and identification of various differences where none were previously seen. Sort of like how you think all birds are the same, until you become a bird watcher, then you see every birth as different by species, and if you are a scientist studying a particular population of birds, you would gain the ability to identify them by their individual personalities and characteristics.

    but I, as a lay person, have no idea wtf the difference between a sparrow and a chickadee is, they are just all brown/black bird blobs of a similar size that try to steal my food when I eat outside. they are just 'birds' to me. but for someone with a PhD in ornithology, they are two completely different things.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    To further that point, it's guaranteed that what was normal, isn't, anymore. Some things are, much isn't. For example, few men, relatively, know how to hunt anymore or would be willing or able to kill an animal. Becoming able to do that has wide ranging impacts on who they are. This used to be normal. If we accept that the environment shapes us then when it changes, so do we, and with that, what is considered normal, shifts.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    Yeah, normative skillsets and social roles and expectations are in constantly changing.

    My BIL grew up hunting and farming but he can't ever talk about it anymore because people view negatively in his current social environment of professional urban liberals, who think it is considered psychopathic to hunt/kill/dress animals. He used to hunt, trap, skin, and all that to make money as a teenager. What was totally normal for him, is considered borderline criminal behavior to the people around him now.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yah, urban liberals can be exceptionally closed minded, in their own unique way.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child)

    And if you confront them about it. they tell you how ignorant and wrong you are, because they can't possible be wrong because they are just so 'open-minded' if you can't see how open minded and correct they are, clearly you are a close-minded fool.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    Yep. Their moral arrogance makes them socially aggressive, especially in the face of uncomfortable, practical realities. They refuse to acknowledge that they are the modern day version of the very morality policing they vilify from previous generations. They don't see it because they don't hold the same values or beleifs that the past generations did, and it is the beliefs and values they disagreed with, not the system.

    I look at them and see the a similarly oppressive, prejudice, abusive social control system. They see that the beleifs and values are different. It was never that the whole system was wrong, it was that the system didn't support their beleifs and values. Now that it does, and they control it, they're content to engage in similar oppression and prejudice of the groups they dislike.

    It has always been about control, in service to self interest. It was not about building a better, more just and fair society. It's part of why the left and right are so far apart today and how Trump is in the white house, again, abusing the power of the executive almost exclusively for personal gain.

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