You give somebody who’s used to living paycheck to paycheck a few million bucks and they will spend it.

So they become job creators?

Is the goal to become a rich asshole? Or is the goal for everyone to make $19/hr?

Well I guess those are definitely the only possible outcomes, aren't they?

Obviously the problem is still relying on transactional society when we have the capability to become a post scarcity society.

We have lazy bums now under capitalism. We'd have lazy bums under socialism too, but they wouldn't be an easy mark for the ultra rich to distract the working class with. They'd be free to pursue their interests.

It's not a zero sum game

Is the goal to become a rich asshole?

No, the goal is to avoid that such stupidly huge wealth inequalities to even exist

The goal is to evenly distribute the wealth such that everyone has what they need to survive and then if you still have enough wealth left over (if the wealthy class were dismantled we would), you make sure everyone has enough to be comfortable. You take the business assets and you share ownership with the people working in those businesses. You establish democratic structures inside those businesses such that the workers choose who is in charge and what everyone is paid. Any amount of money an individual makes is supplemental to basic income that pays for your needs. Establish a wealth cap such that if your income exceeds it, the funds are distributed back down to the needs of society. Things like education and medicine could be entirely funded through excess earnings and a proper tax structure. A wealth cap means that oppressive amounts of liquid funds can't be used to control people or lobby governments.

These are very very basic ideas. Not at all difficult to wrap your head around. And people are angry because we are constantly being told by the boots on our necks that it won't work and that's why we won't even try. But in reality, the reason we won't try is because the wealthy will lose their massive wealth. Wealth that most of them lucked into. This has nothing to do with how hard you work or how smart you are. It has everything to do with who is in control and who is not.

The ultimate answer is to eliminate money and wage labor entirely in favor of a gift economy, as practiced in parts of Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War, and depicted in The Dispossessed.

That would also mean all of us would only need to work about 2 to 3 months out of the year to maintain the base needs of everyone, with the rest of the year being free time to do with as you please. The lack of profit motive would also set us up to stop the progression of climate change before it destroys humanity and most other life on earth.

lol, I find it funny that you went straight to murder and not taxation or seizure of assets but OK lets go with your take.

you actually think these business can't survive without their billionaire founders/investors, nieve. Those people built the position they did through deal making, not some special big brain strat, nothing special about them really and nothing that cant be repeated by someone else, easily replaced practically speaking.

also at what point do we consider hoarding a crime, many would say that line was already crossed a while ago. how much needs to be stolen from society to warrant a death penalty. "a human life cant be messured in dolla-" yes it can and has many a time, how much does it cost to raise a child? between 250k to 500k, how many live could be raised if those billionaire stopped with their tax havens, extractive deals, crocked backroom deals, and straight up fraudulent practices. The blatant manipulation and funding of disinformation and lobbying efforts to further and further fill their pockets while closing of services to the public, some vital some not so vital, either or could easily be taken as an attack on the majority of people in the country and this is barely scratching the surface of their collective offenses.

its easy to pick on the "few" when their crimes are some commonplace yet their are always highly regarded individual like you arguing on their behalf. i think we'll go with the taxation and or seizure of assets route to make things clean but i could care less about their well being at this point cuz they've made it clear they don't give a fuck about mine.

It's so cute when people who have never authentically considered another perspective weigh in on what leftists think and why.

Can you do people who can't afford cancer treatment next?

Why is leftist in scare quotes

I've never seen an AFD guy on lemmy, this is a first for me.

Explain to me why shareholders, who do exactly 0 work and sit on their asses all day, should receive free money?

Why are people allowed to be parasites on society just because they have money?

Capitalism values capital and socialism values what?

I think people want to not be hungry, I think they want to have time for leisure, I think they want to not worry about whether they will pay the rent or put groceries in their fridge (forget about a vacation).

I think people want a guarantee that after working for 40 years they can retire and spend some of their life freely.

I think people want to know that they won't go bankrupt because they get cancer.

I think you're making it way more complicated than it is.

If the top 1% wasn't collecting an equal share of wealth to the bottom 40% people these things could be possible.

This comic isn't about any of that stuff.

This comic shows that when people who can barely make it complain, the average middle/upper middle class person get upset and fights them. It also shows that this dynamic greatly benefits the very people who benefit unfairly from underpaying the work of the poor (and the middle class).

Upvoting it is just a recognition that this dynamic hurts us all. Maybe someone who sees this will think twice when they hear a poor person complain about their living conditions. Think past their reactionary reflex. If the middle class doesn't fight the poor, the poor can move past that obstacle at least. Maybe if they REALLY think about it they'll join in solidarity, make it easier for the poor to fight for better working conditions. Maybe they won't, it's just a meme.

You're right, the current revolutionary meta isn't worked out enough or universally agreed upon enough to be plausible yet.... But this comic isn't about that. It's just about the fact that this fight helps the exploiters and we shouldn't fight people who want better working and living conditions. This comic can be fixed a minimum wage hike and a tax on the wealthy to mitigate the inflationary pressure this can create.

You're getting down voted because you're protecting a complex set of ideas over a simple cartoon and stating that your interpretation is the only logical conclusion/solution proposal of this cartoon. I don't see any solution proposal here. It feels like a bad faith argumentation on your part against something no one really said. People don't generally support arguments they see as bad faith.