you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [S] 35 points 9 months ago (19 children)

This one surprised me, I expected him to be out....

  • source
  • hideshow 19 child comments
  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It's really not surprising, it's hand selected delegates travelling to Calgary in winter... Anything less than 80% would have been shockingly catastrophic for him.

    Honestly though, holding onto leadership is good, because he's lowered their ceiling of support so incredibly low. Yes his support base is large but he basically has no chance of getting the Conservatives a majority.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago

    He lost a 25pt lead in the polls just because Trump won and Trudeau stepped down.

    That's it. He's so unpopular that he was winning in polls because people were just kind of done with the leader we had, not because of Poilievre. Two things happened that had nothing to do with the Cons or him and poof there goes the election.

    He's a horrible leader, a worse human being, and he's the best thing for Canada right now as he is single handedly keeping the Conservatives on the outside looking in.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I look forward to analyses. Was it a lack of clear alternatives, or is their base so far gone that they genuinely think he's their guy?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    PP won against no one. No other possible candidate for CP leadership put themself forward because it’s Carney’s Canada right now. Carney being super popular and rising. Expect some floor crossings.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    True, but I assume that if there were an obvious successor waiting in the wings, the result would have been...at least less lopsided.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    The CP know Carney is very popular. He’ll get a majority soon one way or another. Let PP linger until the CP lose a fifth election in a row. Then successors will emerge. Probably Jason Kenney or Melissa Lantsman. Both awful.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    Was never even in play. For one, he keeps a firm grip on power inside the CPC and they make it pretty clear that anyone who goes against him will be attacked brutally and publicly for doing so. Then, on the voter side, if you choose your voters, the voters will choose you. The way they set up the leadership vote ensured those voting would be his base.

    He and Jenni Byrne captured the party and keep a tight grip on it. Even though Byrne has formally been distanced, she's not.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    In an extremely friendly and loivng manner - 🤗 please adjust your expectations 🤗. The very least so you don't get disappointed, but also to be better connected with the reality of fellow Canadians so we can take appropriate actions before we reach the point of a large PP (or equivalent) majority. Running a non-profit social media platform certainly helps!

    I'm having a similar conversation with some RL friends today.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Nah, he’s revitalized the party, brought in a new demographic of voters, and even gained the most seats the Conservatives have ever seen. Just cause he lost to Carney doesn’t automatically make him a bad party leader.

    I think they’re counting on Carney to take on Trump, make some fatal mistake, and then swoop in whatever election comes next.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Just cause he lost to Carney doesn’t automatically make him a bad party leader.

    No, it's his personality, fecklessness, inability to have a thought that doesn't start with blaming someone else for something, smarminess and completely lacking empathy that makes him a bad leader.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] [S] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I wasn't thinking about the loss, but more so the lack of a reasonable response to Trump. He's still stuck on basic 3 word slogans instead of having any real strategy, unless I just haven't seen it.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments