▲ 857 ▼ Great Mug (lemmy.ca) submitted 10 months ago by MattW03@lemmy.ca to c/science_memes@mander.xyz 78 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Juice@midwest.social 95 points 10 months ago (9 children) Science isn't an ontology, it's a method. God, what no humanities does to a mf permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago Reminded me of this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago Exactly. I keep trying to get people to understand that it's a process, just like running is a process. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 months ago And a method in which beliefs are important. Not the religious ones, of course, but there are other kinds of beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) Scientism is the belief that science and the scientific method are the best or only way to render truth about the world and reality. While the term was defined originally to mean "methods and attitudes typical of or attributed to natural scientists", some scholars, as well as political and religious leaders, have also adopted it as a pejorative term with the meaning "an exaggerated trust in the efficacy of the methods of natural science applied to all areas of investigation (as in philosophy, the social sciences, and the humanities)". permalink fedilink source parent [–] preussischblau@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago* (3 children) Believing that science yields universally true results or is the only method of finding truths, however, is an ontology and something you have to believe. Edit: I'm not anti-science or anything, just a pedant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] yesman@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago Believing that science yields universally true results or is the only method of finding truths You just described science as though it were a belief system. In reality, science has a presumption that your ideals are false, not true. And a person who could only discover truth through science wouldn't be able to dress or feed themselves. permalink fedilink source parent [–] flora_explora@beehaw.org 1 point 10 months ago I agree with the second part of that sentence, but who would think that they discover universal truths or any truths at all? The whole premise of science is that we cannot verify anything or find any real truth. We can just show that anything else is much more unlikely to be true. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago Here is a video by the channel Dr. Fatima (former astrophysicist) which I think has some intersection with this topic. I may have picked the wrong video though because I haven't watched it in months. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQdTmvqCgxI permalink fedilink source parent [–] yakko@feddit.uk 2 points 10 months ago I saw this earlier and really wanted to pipe up, but I just couldn't bear it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago Reminded me of this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago Exactly. I keep trying to get people to understand that it's a process, just like running is a process. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 months ago And a method in which beliefs are important. Not the religious ones, of course, but there are other kinds of beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) Scientism is the belief that science and the scientific method are the best or only way to render truth about the world and reality. While the term was defined originally to mean "methods and attitudes typical of or attributed to natural scientists", some scholars, as well as political and religious leaders, have also adopted it as a pejorative term with the meaning "an exaggerated trust in the efficacy of the methods of natural science applied to all areas of investigation (as in philosophy, the social sciences, and the humanities)". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] preussischblau@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago* (3 children) Believing that science yields universally true results or is the only method of finding truths, however, is an ontology and something you have to believe. Edit: I'm not anti-science or anything, just a pedant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] yesman@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago Believing that science yields universally true results or is the only method of finding truths You just described science as though it were a belief system. In reality, science has a presumption that your ideals are false, not true. And a person who could only discover truth through science wouldn't be able to dress or feed themselves. permalink fedilink source parent [–] flora_explora@beehaw.org 1 point 10 months ago I agree with the second part of that sentence, but who would think that they discover universal truths or any truths at all? The whole premise of science is that we cannot verify anything or find any real truth. We can just show that anything else is much more unlikely to be true. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago Here is a video by the channel Dr. Fatima (former astrophysicist) which I think has some intersection with this topic. I may have picked the wrong video though because I haven't watched it in months. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQdTmvqCgxI permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yesman@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago Believing that science yields universally true results or is the only method of finding truths You just described science as though it were a belief system. In reality, science has a presumption that your ideals are false, not true. And a person who could only discover truth through science wouldn't be able to dress or feed themselves. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flora_explora@beehaw.org 1 point 10 months ago I agree with the second part of that sentence, but who would think that they discover universal truths or any truths at all? The whole premise of science is that we cannot verify anything or find any real truth. We can just show that anything else is much more unlikely to be true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago Here is a video by the channel Dr. Fatima (former astrophysicist) which I think has some intersection with this topic. I may have picked the wrong video though because I haven't watched it in months. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQdTmvqCgxI permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yakko@feddit.uk 2 points 10 months ago I saw this earlier and really wanted to pipe up, but I just couldn't bear it. permalink fedilink source parent