▲ 921 ▼ CNC (lemmy.dbzer0.com) submitted 1 year ago by Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/science_memes@mander.xyz 164 comments fedilink hide all child comments I'm down.
[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (20 children) Consensual non consent. Also known, or formerly known as rape play. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago Eh, I'll make the mill please... permalink fedilink source parent [–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago I prefer "struggle fucking"... consensual of course permalink fedilink source parent [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) And the use of computerized numerically controlled fabrication can't be part of consentual non co!sent because...??? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) If you say so I'll believe you. Not my cup o tea permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm just imaging a 'no Mr. Bond. I expect you to die' situation, but, I dunno, sexy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) What about that situation isn’t hot to begin with? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* All men, the worst common gender. And the thing is just moving in a line. Nothing's really happening outside that. Nobody's leg is being flash frozen with liquid nitrogen and lathed into a dildo here. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (11 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (9 children) It's more blunt, but people who have been raped would point out that there's a big difference between the sexual nature of consensual non consent, and the objectively violent nature of rape. It's less that it's less honest than that it's more clear about what it is, and what it isn't. It's about what people think rape is about, and not what it actually is: angry, hateful and violent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) But consensual non consent as well as rape can be soft Eg free use -> CNC Or use of power, like financial dependency -> rape permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago That's fair, and a good example on the first one. I don't really care to quibble on the details too much, but I believe a lot of definitions would distinguish the coercive from the forcible. In either case, it speaks to the cnc phrase being more apt than otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -6 points 1 year ago (6 children) Well I needed someone to explain consentual non consent to me because its not really logical, and I didnt need rape play explained to me, so there's that. Seems sort of silly we needed a politically correct term for it in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Seems to me, it is more an accurate term. „Politically correct“ is still signage of „I am a right-wing asshole“ btw. Even when those assholes switch terms regulary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago How is it more accurate? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) You do know that no one made them switch terms right? The people doing it and using the term decided to change it because it made it more clear when they were talking to each other. Since you hadn't encountered the idea before, I don't think they're super concerned about their sex lives being easy to explain to you. Your opinion isn't super relevant to other people's sexual preferences or the words they use to talk about it to each other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Well, its as relevant as anyone else's opinion here, which is like you said not much. Good talk though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Well, less than the people who said "oh, okay" when they learned what the term meant. Getting hung up on how you feel about the words they use for their sex lives is really weird. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago The amount I care about this is very low, its not that big a deal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago It got ruined by anti-edgelord zoomers who put shit like "seggs" in their TikTok captions to prevent demonetization. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago And let me guess, it's not called that anymore because 1. it's not really rape 2. it got mixed up too often and then people got soft on it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago Eh, I'll make the mill please... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago I prefer "struggle fucking"... consensual of course permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) And the use of computerized numerically controlled fabrication can't be part of consentual non co!sent because...??? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) If you say so I'll believe you. Not my cup o tea permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm just imaging a 'no Mr. Bond. I expect you to die' situation, but, I dunno, sexy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) What about that situation isn’t hot to begin with? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* All men, the worst common gender. And the thing is just moving in a line. Nothing's really happening outside that. Nobody's leg is being flash frozen with liquid nitrogen and lathed into a dildo here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) If you say so I'll believe you. Not my cup o tea permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm just imaging a 'no Mr. Bond. I expect you to die' situation, but, I dunno, sexy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) What about that situation isn’t hot to begin with? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* All men, the worst common gender. And the thing is just moving in a line. Nothing's really happening outside that. Nobody's leg is being flash frozen with liquid nitrogen and lathed into a dildo here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm just imaging a 'no Mr. Bond. I expect you to die' situation, but, I dunno, sexy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) What about that situation isn’t hot to begin with? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* All men, the worst common gender. And the thing is just moving in a line. Nothing's really happening outside that. Nobody's leg is being flash frozen with liquid nitrogen and lathed into a dildo here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) What about that situation isn’t hot to begin with? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* All men, the worst common gender. And the thing is just moving in a line. Nothing's really happening outside that. Nobody's leg is being flash frozen with liquid nitrogen and lathed into a dildo here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* All men, the worst common gender. And the thing is just moving in a line. Nothing's really happening outside that. Nobody's leg is being flash frozen with liquid nitrogen and lathed into a dildo here. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (11 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (9 children) It's more blunt, but people who have been raped would point out that there's a big difference between the sexual nature of consensual non consent, and the objectively violent nature of rape. It's less that it's less honest than that it's more clear about what it is, and what it isn't. It's about what people think rape is about, and not what it actually is: angry, hateful and violent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) But consensual non consent as well as rape can be soft Eg free use -> CNC Or use of power, like financial dependency -> rape permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago That's fair, and a good example on the first one. I don't really care to quibble on the details too much, but I believe a lot of definitions would distinguish the coercive from the forcible. In either case, it speaks to the cnc phrase being more apt than otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -6 points 1 year ago (6 children) Well I needed someone to explain consentual non consent to me because its not really logical, and I didnt need rape play explained to me, so there's that. Seems sort of silly we needed a politically correct term for it in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Seems to me, it is more an accurate term. „Politically correct“ is still signage of „I am a right-wing asshole“ btw. Even when those assholes switch terms regulary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago How is it more accurate? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) You do know that no one made them switch terms right? The people doing it and using the term decided to change it because it made it more clear when they were talking to each other. Since you hadn't encountered the idea before, I don't think they're super concerned about their sex lives being easy to explain to you. Your opinion isn't super relevant to other people's sexual preferences or the words they use to talk about it to each other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Well, its as relevant as anyone else's opinion here, which is like you said not much. Good talk though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Well, less than the people who said "oh, okay" when they learned what the term meant. Getting hung up on how you feel about the words they use for their sex lives is really weird. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago The amount I care about this is very low, its not that big a deal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago It got ruined by anti-edgelord zoomers who put shit like "seggs" in their TikTok captions to prevent demonetization. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (9 children) It's more blunt, but people who have been raped would point out that there's a big difference between the sexual nature of consensual non consent, and the objectively violent nature of rape. It's less that it's less honest than that it's more clear about what it is, and what it isn't. It's about what people think rape is about, and not what it actually is: angry, hateful and violent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) But consensual non consent as well as rape can be soft Eg free use -> CNC Or use of power, like financial dependency -> rape permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago That's fair, and a good example on the first one. I don't really care to quibble on the details too much, but I believe a lot of definitions would distinguish the coercive from the forcible. In either case, it speaks to the cnc phrase being more apt than otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -6 points 1 year ago (6 children) Well I needed someone to explain consentual non consent to me because its not really logical, and I didnt need rape play explained to me, so there's that. Seems sort of silly we needed a politically correct term for it in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Seems to me, it is more an accurate term. „Politically correct“ is still signage of „I am a right-wing asshole“ btw. Even when those assholes switch terms regulary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago How is it more accurate? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) You do know that no one made them switch terms right? The people doing it and using the term decided to change it because it made it more clear when they were talking to each other. Since you hadn't encountered the idea before, I don't think they're super concerned about their sex lives being easy to explain to you. Your opinion isn't super relevant to other people's sexual preferences or the words they use to talk about it to each other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Well, its as relevant as anyone else's opinion here, which is like you said not much. Good talk though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Well, less than the people who said "oh, okay" when they learned what the term meant. Getting hung up on how you feel about the words they use for their sex lives is really weird. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago The amount I care about this is very low, its not that big a deal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) But consensual non consent as well as rape can be soft Eg free use -> CNC Or use of power, like financial dependency -> rape permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago That's fair, and a good example on the first one. I don't really care to quibble on the details too much, but I believe a lot of definitions would distinguish the coercive from the forcible. In either case, it speaks to the cnc phrase being more apt than otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago That's fair, and a good example on the first one. I don't really care to quibble on the details too much, but I believe a lot of definitions would distinguish the coercive from the forcible. In either case, it speaks to the cnc phrase being more apt than otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -6 points 1 year ago (6 children) Well I needed someone to explain consentual non consent to me because its not really logical, and I didnt need rape play explained to me, so there's that. Seems sort of silly we needed a politically correct term for it in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Seems to me, it is more an accurate term. „Politically correct“ is still signage of „I am a right-wing asshole“ btw. Even when those assholes switch terms regulary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago How is it more accurate? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) You do know that no one made them switch terms right? The people doing it and using the term decided to change it because it made it more clear when they were talking to each other. Since you hadn't encountered the idea before, I don't think they're super concerned about their sex lives being easy to explain to you. Your opinion isn't super relevant to other people's sexual preferences or the words they use to talk about it to each other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Well, its as relevant as anyone else's opinion here, which is like you said not much. Good talk though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Well, less than the people who said "oh, okay" when they learned what the term meant. Getting hung up on how you feel about the words they use for their sex lives is really weird. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago The amount I care about this is very low, its not that big a deal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Seems to me, it is more an accurate term. „Politically correct“ is still signage of „I am a right-wing asshole“ btw. Even when those assholes switch terms regulary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago How is it more accurate? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago How is it more accurate? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) You do know that no one made them switch terms right? The people doing it and using the term decided to change it because it made it more clear when they were talking to each other. Since you hadn't encountered the idea before, I don't think they're super concerned about their sex lives being easy to explain to you. Your opinion isn't super relevant to other people's sexual preferences or the words they use to talk about it to each other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Well, its as relevant as anyone else's opinion here, which is like you said not much. Good talk though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Well, less than the people who said "oh, okay" when they learned what the term meant. Getting hung up on how you feel about the words they use for their sex lives is really weird. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago The amount I care about this is very low, its not that big a deal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Well, its as relevant as anyone else's opinion here, which is like you said not much. Good talk though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Well, less than the people who said "oh, okay" when they learned what the term meant. Getting hung up on how you feel about the words they use for their sex lives is really weird. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago The amount I care about this is very low, its not that big a deal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Well, less than the people who said "oh, okay" when they learned what the term meant. Getting hung up on how you feel about the words they use for their sex lives is really weird. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago The amount I care about this is very low, its not that big a deal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago The amount I care about this is very low, its not that big a deal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago It got ruined by anti-edgelord zoomers who put shit like "seggs" in their TikTok captions to prevent demonetization. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago And let me guess, it's not called that anymore because 1. it's not really rape 2. it got mixed up too often and then people got soft on it? permalink fedilink source parent