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China will remove canola tariffs if Canada scraps EV levies: ambassador (www.ctvnews.ca)
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[–] 1 point 1 year ago (9 children)

Modern cars expose the engine/body control CAN bus through the fucking headlights. You don't need to be in the car and it doesn't need to be on for you to have the same or more access than the OBDII port.

It doesn't matter what the country of origin is, someone is gonna find a way to break OTA updates, gain access via exposed wireless networks or just pop off a CAN bus controlled light and plug in. How long before someone pushes a malicious update that causes the ABS to disable or degrade braking to near 0%, or just throw the electronic power steering full left whenever the speed exceeds 101km/h?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Only Toyota was dumb enough to have a CAN bus run to the headlights. Edit: and use the same bus the keyless system runs on.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's in dodge vehicles now, the other manufactures will follow soon. It saves a fuck ton of wising when you only need to run a single power wire and data bus to each light cluster instead of power for high beams, low beams, fog lights, indicators and vanity wank lights.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Yes, but it is a different CAN bus than anything critical to the operation of the powertrain. A typical BMW will have five or six different, and completely separate, CAN bus.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    And bmw makes up 3% of the north american market. The big players will continue to cut corners and crank out cars with minimal or non-existant security. Not that it matters, manufactures are bricking their own products: https://www.thestack.technology/jeep-software-update-bricks-vehicles-leaves-owners-stranded/

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    But that would be silly, because the easiest way to kill someone without consequence is to get behind the wheel and run them over. People could also be putting bombs in product boxes and poison in medicine. A coherent society doesn't have these problems.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Forgot about wanacrypt, stuxnet or the Ashley Madison breach? indiscriminate harm is the norm not the exception.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Let me say it this way, you propose some convoluted technological way to fuck with someone's car, but you can already just go under and start cutting vital lines. But again, that's extremely rare because most people aren't inclined to doing that kind of harm.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Do you lock your door? Why, people don't just go into other people's houses, they're not inclined to do so.

    The point is having vehicles vulnerable to such trivial abuse is unacceptable. It only takes one cunt who decides that he wants to randsomeware every Toyota in the world to spoil the party.

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