SEED (Superior Evolutionary Element Destined-factor)

Since when SEED was an acronym 💀

Also, how did Defense Industry Association get turned into DIE...

G Gundam certainly has some crazy designs! I wish we'd get a HG Nether/Hurricane Gundam already.

TLDR of some new things:

-DEDO, appear in previous leaked images, is apparently the military procurement agency of PLANT, which apparently existed in some form in the past but is restructured into what it is now.

-Defense Industry Association(D.I.E), yeah, really on the nose acronym (that by the way isnt actually the acronym) appear in a few expanded universe material in the past, but makes appearance here again.

-New Design Bureaus of PLANT: named after Hugo Gernsback, Sakyo Komatsu. Not sure who the Smith Bureau is named after, its not an uncommon name. Maybe EE Smith, or Cordwainer Smith. Now that they seem to be involved in the D.I.E (even if indirectly through government agency DEDO), are design bureaus (new or old) privatized?

-Phase Shift tech now used more as camouflage is an interesting idea. It is a further development of the VPS armor's ability to change voltage setting (and thus color) on the fly. Now it seems it can (try to) mimic the surrounding environment.

-The machines went through alot of perofmrance restriction and downgrade. While this is known from images that appeared online previously, the extent of the downgrade seems to be huge? To the point that its more "sheep in a wolf's pelt".

-Apparently, the sale includes tech transfer. How nice of them.

-Congratulations, naturals. You cast off the racist Blue Cosmos, disbanded the evil superpower Earth Alliance, and destroyed the merchants of death LOGOS. Now PLANT and Coordinators have filled in the spot for all these things; the world superpower dominating Earth sphere, the merchant of death selling you expensive weapons, and KoF as the evil racist extremist faction :)

I mean, yes. If you don't put your characters in such obviously unsurvivable scenarios and then have them miraculously survive, then people won't react as badly. That's writing 101. Hey, better yet, have him show some enduring negative consequences - lingering wounds or trauma - for it. Reinforce that just because you aren't dead, being shot down isn't a "get out of jail free card".

On the other hand, the reason you use unsurvivable scenarios, is because if you show a main character in survivable peril... well, y'know, everyone kind of knows they're not dead. So you have a choice: You can not really try to fake out your character's death, acknowledge they walked away from it, maybe instead focus on what the defeat cost them besides their life. Or you can use far more perilous scenarios and actually kill them. Seed tries to have it both ways, and so fumbles it entirely.

Oh, absolutely him too. I just didn't want to list everything wrong with that show because I was typing on my phone and I didn't have all day. Also I can't remember the details and I'm sure as hell not rewatching Destiny to freshen my memory!

The worst there to me was what they did to Cagalli.

For me, the one they did most dirty was Athrun. It felt as if he got amnesia / brain damage and forgot everything that went down in SEED during the first half of Destiny.

Destiny and it's not even close. "Protagonists lose their voice of reason, fly too close to the sun, as get burnt" is much better than whatever the hell was going on with Gilbert's jobs program in Destiny. The biggest flaw with IBO S2 is indeed McGillis being a total dumbass, but that's nothing compared to what they did to the characters in Destiny.

The worst there to me was what they did to Cagalli. In SEED she was a strong character who took the initiative to investigate the people close to her because she held peace at a high value and took her responsibilities as princess seriously. In Destiny she's worse than useless until Jesus Kira shows up to save her from a political marriage with a guy she doesn't like who won't even make her political position better. I'll skip talking about the other characters they ruined, but...

Mu La Flaga. What the hell were they thinking? You thought bringing back Galileo was an asspull? This dude got reduced to atoms right in front of everyone's eyes. The fact that they chose to confirm it's the same person when there's a more interesting "he's a clone" option baffles me. We know his dad was playing with human clones, so it would have actually made sense too!

Honestly I think half the vitriol towards IBO S2 comes from the fact that it's a tragedy and some people don't like that but overall I still think it's an enjoyable watch. But Destiny? Yikes. I never want to grace that mess with my eyeballs again.

I havent returned to the hobby in like 6 years now and this is my backlog:

I have an RG Zeta sitting in the box awaiting final touches. I finished the build over a year ago.

I started it in 2020.

I have a set that has been sitting half built on my dining room table for over a year, yet I keep buying more sets anyways

I didn't come here to be attacked

Two dozen? Yes, that would be cumbersome to carry from house to house. >_>

Ignore the beeping from the box truck backing up to my storage unit. And definitely don't notice that it's dressed up like a radio flyer wagon.

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That backlog is far too reasonable, but I suppose you can't just carry two dozen boxes around while trick-or-treating.

Ah, that makes sense.

Whoops, that's a mistype. I meant "UC hadn't had a main-line entry [when SEED came out]", but typed "hasn't" instead.

Huh? Is Unicorn not mainline UC? Does it not count because it was an OVA series?

Nah. I don't think I've seen that much more hate coming from Wing fans. Hell, I don't think I've ever seen anyone "throw a tantrum" over Freedom's wings.

If you're seeing anything, it's just pure statistics: In 2000, Wing fans were a tremendous segment of the Gundam fandom. UC hadn't had a main-line entry since the unsuccessful Victory in 1994, with only 08th MS Team to tide it over in the meantime. The other side continuities (AWGX and Turn-A) had failed to pick up steam.

So a fan who was active, emotionally engaged, and willing to disagree in the fandom was most probably a Wing fan.

I dunno, I personally hated Wing even more than SEED Destiny or Freedom, but that's a sample size of one.

Yeah they were bad, especially Freedom. And I say that as a SEED fan.

I mean maybe they should've not made Destiny and Freedom such trash.

SEED is my favorite. Yes, I've watched them all (except for Fighter G, couldn't make it 4 episodes) and I've heard all the arguments against it.

I still love it. It's fun, it's got good characters, it's got great action. It's got a coherent, interesting story with all sides of the conflict being sympathetic and flawed.

But it's the people that lift up Fighter G and 00 while hating SEED that completely mystify me.

Ah, thanks!

Sorry for the late response. Here's a non-exhaustive list from memory:

• the weapons
• the inside of the vents
• the vulcan
• the areas around the larger yellow vents on the legs
• the gray marks on the toes
• the red parts of the waist side armor
• the attachment points on the forearms
• the underside of the shield

After a bit of sleep I've decided the photo was too dark, so here it is brightened up a bit and with the background more thoroughly suppressed!

That is a fabulous pose.