The only thing preventing the entire world from being stuck in complete, abject despotism is that these people are often at each other's throats. When they collude, everything they touch turns to garbage.

That's the hope. I'm sure there are a handful of billionaires who are decent enough people, tech co-founders who didn't get all weird about the tech money. But the other 98% are legit sociopaths. They can't co-exist for long, they're all secretly undercutting each other. It's in their nature.

One possible future is letting the dragons fight it out, and picking off the stragglers. Fingers crossed 🤞

Absolutely agree. They really believe that they are all that matters.

Imagine fighting a long war where one side knows they are fighting the war, and a vast majority of the other side thinks they are trying to help them.

There's no war other than class war. We've been fighting it for centuries. Remember that.

i think the oligarchs do defacto control a significant chunk of the world and they are trying to exercise that control to enact their deranged ai-hallucination-like version of reality that their confirmation broken brains think should be done

thankfully they do not share these visions with eachother commonly and nation states are slowly making laws to prevent them abusing the global financial system

fifedoms

"Fife"doms aside, it should be thiefdoms

Woah man. That's what conspiracy theorists argue.

so hopefully there will be some local opposition present.

update: https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2026/07/03/wicklow-hotel-cancels-secretive-peter-thiel-conference/ ✨

Who hasn't? Simpler that way. Someone showed up with money at Joe's, 2012 if I had to bet.

Has he had on Timothy Mellon, the second largest political contributor after Elon Musk in the last election cycle? Has he had on the Uihleins or the Adelsons?

Only a small subset of the people making huge political donations want publicity, and only an even smaller subset of those are interesting enough that Joe Rogan would do a podcast with them.

Don't think that most of them are interesting in a macabre way like Thiel or Musk. Most are old, crotchety assholes who inherited vast fortunes who aren't interesting, don't seek publicity, and just want to remake the world without pesky democracy interfering.

Cory Booker, Ezra Klein, and Reid Hoffman aren’t people I generally consider evil. I wonder if we can get them to say something about this whole affair and what goes on there.

Holy shitballs.

And compost them too!

Sorry for this odd question, but why "3.5 thousand" instead of 3500 or 3.5k?

🤷 New people get born every day. Gotta restate the obvious from time to time, make sure everyone is caught up.

One theory I heard: Crazy conspiracy theories were created by the government to make legitimate conspiracy theories look ridiculous by association. "Oh, you think there's an island of pedophile billionaires running the world? I bet you also think the moon landing was fake." A classic "the butts match" gambit.

Thats level one feury. Level 2 is when they tell you a well known asshole billionaire is going to fight the shadow cabal for us.

Shadow cabal and oligarchy aren't mutually exclusive. Seems to me the oligarchs are just the more obvious nodes of the shadow cabal web, the fuckers with the money and power that can go on TV and talk directly to senators.

Go one step back away from the limelight and you get dudes like Cheney, Bannon, people who interact with all the obvious oligarchs but don't need to post on social media and don't need to stay relevant to constituents. And then people like Epstein, agents in the field gathering blackmail.

Shit is pretty fucking crazy tbh.

You know them, you know their names, net worth ranked etc.

Among other things they were high on ket and thought they can teabag democracy in the face because everyone is so dumb.

They have shits for brains now that betray the game blatantly.

“As you probably know I represent the Rothschild’s” -Jeffery Epstein in email to Peter Thiel.

No need to wonder, it's been obvious for years now.

Being a useful idiot doesn't require the person being aware of their idiotic usefulness. Usually they aren't.

I think Rogan believes he's in charge though. He talks like he's making his own decisions.

Undoubtedly he's being manipulated but yeah at the very least he's a useful idiot.

Yes, and that someone is largely believed to be Thiel.

Yup. It's just people. And we can still mend this.

Don't fall for the "it's an all powerful force beyond your reach" misdirection.

The emperor wears no clothes. We see the man behind the curtain.

[PS, "conspiracy theories"'s a term the crooks have used to dissuade scrutiny of them.]

I thought only the queen of England, John English, and PDQ Bach's estate had that kind of wealth. I wish I was right

And history shows that EVERY time they felt their wealth and power were genuinely threatened, they conceded both. You don't even need a bloody revolution, they just need to see that it is a possibility before their thin skin starts crawling.

The british monarchy saw the french revolution and invented the parliamentary system. The robber barron's saw the communist revolutions in the east and suddenly the new deal, suffrage, and civil rights. Today, the billionaires are outclassed and out numbered worse than either of those examples, and will crumple like a paper tiger the second their facade is broken. All they have is their propaganda networks to protect them.

Easy fix, just don't talk about what you know to random people. :)

It's like trying to sell icecream to people who hate icecream. Also, I certainly didnt learn about these things from someones comment on the internet. It was just watching world events like 9/11 and not being a complete moron believing the official story. :)

Then I got interested, found lots of good documentaries. YouTube used to be full of very good ones before they deleted them. I was very interested in that stuff.

Now the world is very different and people are seeing evil openly in the white house even. But it was very different back then.