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[–] 74 points 4 months ago

Where do you think grok gets the info?

Mein Kampf.

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  • [–] 138 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    Sadly I have generally watched in horror as my friends quote Gemini slop as fact checking on the regular, because it's the default search result.

    I speak up about it, and explain why it's problematic. Doesn't matter. It's convenient.

    Convenience always wins.

    We're cooked.

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  • [–] 31 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I know people that will complain about the crappy results but then not use a different search engine. Like it's too much cognitive load to go to duckduckgo or qwant or whatever

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    To be fair, duck duck go also has some garbage results compared to like 2015 google. I have used ddg for the past several years and many topics yield terrible results. I was "the good googler" amongst my peers at the time. I haven't tried qwant, so it might be better. A lot of search engines are worse and I'm guessing it's partially because the web is just bloated with trash now.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    A lot of search engines are worse and I’m guessing it’s partially because the web is just bloated with trash now.

    That's sadly a big part of it. Other is that search engines in general are worse today as everything apparently needs to be AI. Google spesifically has gotten worse over the years, but it's not alone. And that indirectly affects other engines, like duckduck, which at least partly uses other engines at the background.

    But with DDG bangs are pretty neat. If you don't find what you're looking for via DDG search just add '!g' to the query and you'll get same search from Google. Or pick from "a few" other engines with their own bangs.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (4 children)

    Hmm, makes me wonder if a big factor is that it reads the first couple of results and summarizes it. Like if it was turned off, people wouldn't bother clicking through and reading, so they just leave and and "fact" get saved in their brains. If they were really motivated, they would click through and read and come to the same incorrect conclusions but most don't bother so the misinformation doesn't propagate as easily

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    This was always a thing. The results on page 1 had a much greater click rate than on page 2+

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    That used to be a direct result of how good the search was. In the aughts it was generally on page 1 or you had to rephrase your query; the remaining results were the era’s equivalent of ‘slop’, link trees and redirect rabbit holes and plaintext sites with random stolen content. I was met with genuine surprise any time I found what I was looking for on page 3 or 4

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  • [–] 46 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    And hence why we call it "métrage" in French, as in "un long métrage" (a feature film) and "un court métrage" (a short film) ; because we measure in metres !

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  • [–] 37 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    There are many different tiers and types of AI users. Anyone who uses Grok might not be eligible for the death penalty in the US due to diminished capacity.

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  • [–] 31 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    When I was a kid I thought “talkie” was such a ridiculous, funny-sounding word for the advent of films with sound. It was only years later that I realized that the word “movie” which I had never thought twice about was almost the exact same thought process for, you know, pictures that moved.

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    I thought it got it from Elon Musk. That's why it's stupid as fuck. 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    I never really used A.I at all. I remember the very first wave of midjurney i think, and i found it fascinating, made a few pictyres and was like woah, cool. Never touched it again. Tge other day i wanted to make an STL file but i didn't really feel like learnic CAD, so i thought: A.I is supposed to be supper smart and can create images and code and shit, right? I sat down and told it what i need and it started creating something. It looked nice and all, but missed the mark. I exoplained what was wrong and it made something else. Most of the time it ran in circles and said: oh i get it, and made the same thing again. It made things that weren't connected. Sometimes it made sometging that was close and when i told it what to change it made sometging else entirely that was all kinds of wrong. After a while it wasn't even about tge thing anymore, i juat wanted to figure out why it can't do it. At the end i sat on my couch for like 3 hours and it was nothing. I do not understand how prople claim that A.I is so smart, it was one of the most frustrating thimgs that i have done in a long time. It was like explaining somethimg to someone who clearly doesn't get it, and you just do it yourself at the end.

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Merriam-Webster is a source of factual information. Factual information is woke or something. Elon doesn't allow grok to consider anything woke in its answers. Therefore grok doesn't get the info from Merriam-Webster.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    @grok how do i wipe my ass after poop?

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    We have "Schadenfreude". We're gonna need a word for physical pain caused by witnessing such stupidity.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    Is there a term for people who only get answers from Ai?

    Like some AI cuck?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    It could be argued that they are a willing variant of Reverse Centaur

    Start with what a reverse centaur is. In automation theory, a "centaur" is a person who is assisted by a machine. You're a human head being carried around on a tireless robot body. Driving a car makes you a centaur, and so does using autocomplete.

    And obviously, a reverse centaur is a machine head on a human body, a person who is serving as a squishy meat appendage for an uncaring machine.

    That's not a slur though, it's generally sympathetic.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    To be fair, I wouldn't expect grok to be using actual facts and reputable sources as its baseline knowledge, given its owner.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    If you're lucky, this is where it gets its info.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    So the only explanation here, is that they thought Merriam Webster is a person not an Encyclopedia, right?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    @grok explain this I lack braincells

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    @gork is this real??2?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Either dumb or deliberately summoning fucking Grok just for the lulz.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Grok gets information from the Cambridge dictionary.)

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    From the OG OED.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Merriam Webster is my least trusted dictionary. Meanings and words I've looked up in the past have been either inaccurate or biased to a North American understanding. I use English English, and prefer Cambridge and (secondary due to online paywall) Oxford (UK ver.).

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Merriam Webster is my least trusted dictionary. Meanings and words I've looked up in the past have been either inaccurate or biased to a North American understanding.

    You don't like Merriam-webster because the american dictionary company caters to American English?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    It doesn't always clarify it is American English, and implies to non-English speakers that it is the standard form, when it is a variation. This, along with American English teachers around the world teaching their form, misrepresents English itself.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago

    i'd always thought it had the same root as "photograph"

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  • [+] -8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    And M-W defines literally as its own antonym, so it's not even logically sound.

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