Feeling really happy that my tv lost internet privileges a while back
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Good thing I air gapped my TV.
Ehhh...yeah, maybe, but I think that the problem is really broader than that.
Petflix, a Roku app documented by The Verge, is a representative case. Its opt-in screen reads: “To enjoy Petflix for free with fewer ads, you are allowing Bright Data to occasionally use your device’s free resources and IP address to download public web data from the internet...
Say you have kids. And your kids have friends over. Are you curating what "free" apps your kids' friends have on their phones that they connect to your WiFi network?
Privacy is ultimately lost isn't it?
It's just a matter of time before actual 1984 level prevention of wrong comments and everyone is going to be listened to all the time.
Whether AI grows quickly or slowly it will just add to it. Those with power will control it and it will reinforce their opinions and silence ours.
A note on what the partner list proves: Being listed in Bright Data’s config means an integration might have existed at some point. It does not by itself prove that a specific publisher’s currently-shipping app(s) includes the SDK in production. For any named publisher, per-app verification is required.
I'm not sure what this article is claiming is happening? My TV is browsing websites? Why haven't they proven it? Seems like it would be relatively simple to monitor the web traffic from the TV to see if that's happening, then they wouldn't put a disclaimer about it being unproven, Are they asking me to do the verification work for them?
So they turned millions of TVs into a giant VPN? That would actually be kind of cool if they had asked first. I mean, imagine a torrent network like that.
No, they're saying that it's technically possible for an Israeli company to have done this. The article says that an SDK exists, but there is no proof that it's being used in the way they're speculating about. They're Just Asking Questions (TM). But it's possible and mentioning an Israeli company makes certain people paranoid similar to how mentioning Warren Buffet makes certain people paranoid.
It's be relatively simple for security researchers to monitor the traffic from smart TV. But maybe all of the security researchers are working for the Israelis too. Can't prove that they aren't all working for the Israelis. Therefore we should just trust in what is implied by this one article that isn't even showing any network packets from any specific devices.
Just how internet conspiracy theories work. People tend to not question those that are Just Asking Questions so long those implicated in the conspiracy are people they hate.
I learned today my router (Japan domestic Buffalo router) can't block domains, only IPs. That's annoying.
I maintain that everyone who buys every pice of smart crap tech is a fucking idiot.
Depends. This year I bought a smart-crap air purifier. It can only be used connected to the manufacturer's app, connected online.
Except, this smart-crap is powered by an ESP32 system on chip, a very popular development kit amongst DIYers and electronic hobbyists. Some smartass has already created a program to make use off 100% of this air purifier functionalities, connecting only to Home Assistant, completely locally! Unboxed the thing, tear it down, flash the chip, and BOOM ! Turn the smart-crap into a reasonable Home-Automation device. All thanks to the collective efforts of smart, altruistic people.
I am all for people buying all sorts of smart-crap devices if they hack them and share instructions online :D
Oh, link? Me interested
Correction, they're right ignorant, smart, or very smart.
Ignorant: accepts everything, connects tv to internet.
Smart: Blocks Tv from internet.
Very Smart: removes the WiFi chip from the TV. Stuffs the LAN cable with caulk. Boom, subsidized TV.
Genius: creates their own TV OS for their specific TV and deletes the regular OS.
I will never knowingly use anything from that scummy shithole.
I take it for granted that they will use it for spying.
Should be boycotted in any country.
Once again DO NOT CONNECT YOYR SMART TV TO THE INTERNET
Do not do it. It’s not smart, it’s a spy device.
Yup.
I'm stuck with a smart TV, but it's from Pre-LLM days. I don't use the smart TV app or connect it to the web. I've also got the AI features ("Ad Personalization", etc.) turned off by default, just because it pleases me.
Well, technically, it is smarter than a lot of people think; "smart" ≠ "moral!"
But yeah, definitely just use an HDMI cable. They're harmless that way.
Israel speedrunning "biggest piece of shit country" in the past few years it seems.
they always did shady stuff. the difference is that they are losing international public support so it's safer to publish that stuff
Past few? They literally started as a bunch of whiners gaslighting other countries for compensations and pity and playing victim.
Wasn't their founder the colonialist so vile Cecil Rhodes, the man for whom Rhodesia was named, called him out for being too vile a shit candle, and refused to get involved on moral grounds? I know they had a moment like that a few years later with Hitler, when their all volunteer SS unit got side lined. The world is so antisemitic sometimes.
Great article; thanks for sharing.
Does anyone have any similar articles that can show why smart-TV connection is a terrible idea to a non-technical user?
even without shady stuff. it's just common sense. disconnect the 'computer' from the 'display' so you don't need to replace both when the 'computer' becomes obsolete--and it will, usually, before the 'display' quits working. don't connect it. if you want 'smart tv' functionality, get a cheaper and easier-to-replace streaming device of your choice instead.
beware of models or brands you have to go online with just to 'set up'. more and more are 'requiring' internet access and/or an 'account' just to turn on and use as a 'dumb' display.
more and more are 'requiring' internet access and/or an 'account' just to turn on and use as a 'dumb' display.
Wtf, ive never seen/heard of this (though it has been 3+ years since I last bought a TV). Can you point to any brands/models that require this specifically? Want to be sure those never show up on a "to be considered list" for myself.
My last LG started turning blue after just 5 years, but I still use the Apple TV I bought with it. With enshitification happening the way it is I think it may be the computer that starts to outlast the screen.
Fucking hell.
That's where we're all living now.
I'm glad my TV is 13 years old and stupid as fuck.
I'm glad I cancelled Xfinity fiber the same day it was installed because I discovered they wouldn't let me run my own hardware.
I'm glad I switched to Linux a couple of years ago.
I'm glad my car is a 2006 model.
But, I know I can't repair the dyke[sic] with my finger.
DO NOT TRUST DEVICES THAT SPEAK AND TRUST DEVICES THAT SPEAK TO EACHOTHER LESS
Everyone needs to just bite the bullet and start buying screens for enterprise use as TVs, more expensive but no bullshit built in. The smart tv I have hasn’t been allowed to tough the internet since the first week I got it years ago
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