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[–] 136 points 5 months ago (11 children)

I hate the modern ones you need to hover above so they even display, and then it's 1 pixel wide and a shade of grey that's about 2% darker than white.
Less functional and 500 lines of js garbage.

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  • [–] 31 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    It's a few lines of css, no JS required.

    .my-div:hover {
      overflow-x: scroll;
    }
    

    And the look and feel of the scrollbar is generally determined by the browser/OS. Unless someone does a custom scrollbar implementation, but that is exceedingly rare. So that thin rounded gray bar is a browser/OS design, again, without any JS.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I don't know about scrollbars specifically, but apparently a lot of windows 11 is written in react

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    It’s the start menu that’s written in react.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    You can style the native scrollbars with css now

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Oh, interesting, that's pretty new. Technically it's not an official part of the W3C spec yet, but it's close enough that browsers support it now. Though, it only allows you to control the bar color, track color (which is generally invisible nowadays, so track color changes nothing), and width. So, yes, more customization than was there before, but still extremely minimal.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)
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    JS is a programming language that runs from the website on your computer. By "JS scrollbar" it was meant that the scrollbar is generated by the code, as if it was a program.

    CSS is just a sheet of rules on how things should look like, it's not meant to run programs. This person is pointing out you can just tell the browser to add a scrollbar to something using CSS, without programming.

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  • [–] 31 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Now you can't even find the fucking thing when you need it. Thanks, "UX design".

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    UX, whatsat?

    Also, it completely disappears after a second.

    And why is it a different color on the addons page anyway??

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  • [–] 53 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I like how they added some grip between 2001 - 2009 so you would have some traction when you used then

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago

    2009, pls.

    But I guess with the end caps from 2006.

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  • [–] 62 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    1998 was truly the best time. When all OS widgets looked the same. And could be used in apps, and everything had a consistent look. Yeah you could override this in your app. But fuck people who did that. Everything looked so nice and uniform and you knew what to expect from a widget and its look and behavior. Get off my lawn.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    1998 was in my formative years with computers, so I will always be partial to it. Xfce can get pretty close.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 5 months ago

    Honestly I’m partial to it as well. Possibly for the same reasons, but also because the bar and buttons are clearly defined and have good contrast. The later designs begin to fade out until now the scroll bar is just a thin line, which is sometimes hidden, so you don’t see it unless you’re looking for it.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago

    2012? Elder? Cmon, it wasn't that long ago... wait... no...

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    And then they got thinner every year while screens got wider..

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I miss my big chonky scroll bars. now they hide them.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Search for "Always show scroll bars" in settings

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    1998 not only had the best scrollbar, but the best UI overall. Shoulda just stopped then and we would have utopia by now

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    I'd say 2001 and 2006 purely because the scrollbar is textured in a way that make it seem dragable at first glance |=|.

    Which is standard by now but still, besides that 1998 has all the other visual cues to denote what's clickable and i would otherwise agree as i generally prefer flatter designs.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Definitely either 88 or 98. Large, very visible, no bullshit. I prefer 98, but would also be perfectly happy with 88. The reason I like 98 better than 88 is because 98, while not as high of contrast, is closer to if it's physically there, with shadows and stuff, and therefore visually faster recognizable as a scroll bar, it's more intuitive.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    By 2026 AI does the scrolling for you, a feature made mandatory (all scrollbars removed) in 2028 😭

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    1988 still the best one, somehow

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Do you remember the feel of switching from 1998 to 2001? It felt like stepping into the future.

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  • It never got better than 1998

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    What was wrong with the high contrast of 1988?

    It is at home in both light and dark mode

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    The issue with 1988 is that it isn't intuitive what the background color is, and thus if the bar is up or down.

    The middle years are obvious because of the 3d effect. The last one is obvious because the background is the same for both the arrows and the bar.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I miss that glass aesthetic from 2001

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    2009 was peak

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    '98 to '09 was the sweet spot. Textures make the page slider easier to spot and use.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    2026: some invisible or light grey on white background |

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Man, we had it right from 1998 to 2001, it only went downhill after that...

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    We've gotta bring back frutiger aero.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I'm partial to 2006

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