I hope Iran fuses Israel into a blob of melted steel and plastic

Herod did that to the first couple of Roman emperors until Vespasian clocked on what was going on

The US is officially in the cuck chair

The Medes were the pre-eminent indo-iranian group for a bunch of the iron age.

They were integral to the grand alliance that finally brought down the Assyrian Empire, after similar alliances had formed and been defeated. The Median Empire took over huge chunks of the defeated empire and their name was so well known that even in the Persian Wars, the Greeks referred to joining the Persian Empire as Medizing.

Speaking of, one of the subordinate tribes in the Median Empire's coalition was a minor regional player that today we call the Persians...

We are at war with Iran, we could already be in a world war.

Because that's how it's played out every single time throughout history and that's exactly how it will play out now. The longer we wait, the more blood will spill.

Well, it seems written…

Is trump going to bring the IDF to help with election fraud or whatever bullshit he will manifest to justify it?

Previously the US government was only going to be scammed by US companies. In this plan, they'll also be scammed by Israeli companies, which if my mall kiosk experience is accurate, are already extremely proficient at scamming.

Unfortunately plenty of secular neolibs ok with this (Sam Harris)

They're only the greatest source or war and murder in human history. What's not to like?

Imagine for a moment that the purpose of Epstein's sex trafficking was to get compromising video and other evidence to use for blackmailing powerful leaders and such for Israeli intelligence.

I don't claim to know for sure that is true, but I feel like a great many things make more sense if it is.

capitalism and zionism.

They have been involved in bribery of world leaders for decades, they have a PAC that is deeply embedded in US politics, and they have invested heavily in intelligence collection (HUMINT and SIGINT), including gathering and creating compromising information about key individuals.

They're America's unsinkable aircraft carrier next to the gas station

Israel has one of the strongest intelligence agencies in the world. Does Pegasus ring a bell? Actually, they may even see what you have typed on your smartphone in Lemmy.

Ukraine right now is at the forefront of modern warfare innovation. Despite being small and embattled, larger countries are coming to Ukraine to learn what they are doing with the latest drone tech. For Ukraine, this is a real, everyday, life or death battle and they have been thrust to the cutting edge of what’s possible by this. They are also very smart and making the most of it.

Meanwhile the US is fat and slow and sheltered, invested in the warfare of decades past. So the US has a lot to gain from watching closely what’s going on or even having a formal security partnership with Ukraine to learn first hand.

If the US goes a whole generation without major military conflict, it will literally forget how to do it and lose its edge. It will have no battle hardened commanders and all its tactics will be decades old. I believe this is one reason the US starts so many conflicts. Its whole empire is built on its military might and that sword needs to stay sharp.

What does this have to do with Israel?

Well, I want to avoid direct comparisons between Ukraine and Israel, because one is an innocent nation that’s been brutally invaded and the other is an aggressive religious ethnostate carved out of other people’s lands and maintained through force, brutality and espionage.

But let’s just say that Israel, too, is very active in warfare, counter terrorism, and espionage. Remember their scheme with the exploding pagers? When’s the last time the US pulled off something like that?

The US wants to learn from Israel. Like Ukraine, Israel is full of smart people who are living it every day and pushing the boundaries. You don’t get into top condition without real experience and pressure, exercise. Israel has that in a way the US does not.

This is one factor. There are many others including the wackadoodle religion stuff. But this is one factor I did not see mentioned yet.

There was a former CIA guy or so he claimed that pretty much made the claim the only people they didn't fuck with in the intelligence community was Mossad. Not because they couldn't but because mossad will use any means. ANY means to succeed collateral damage be damned and they are hardline on revenge. And they are good at it because they are absolutely ruthlesssly competent.

And I bet they did a LOT of dirty work for the USA to acquire that skillset, amongst other entitties

Well finishing up Lebanon first. Then Syria, Jordan, and eventually Egypt.

Well they fucked their arab allies in the region. They lost their bases hosted by those allies. This means the Americans can't rely on the pre-existing material base or the goodwill of the arabs. What they got left in the region is Israel. Perhaps they think they no longer need the arabs to project power.

Blame ordinary folks instead of pushing primaries to remove the genocidal maniacs in charge, that will solve it!

Kamala lost because she was a trash candidate who didnt get her voters off the couch. She was about to drop from the primary with like 1% of the vote when Biden picked her for VP. Picked on a cynical demographics play. Of course she couldnt win. She could barely string together a speech and she had no policy positions she cared enough to lead from the front. And, she supported ongoing zionist war crimes, which is a no-go for a significant portion of the Dem voters.

If the next Dem candidate is a zionist they will lose as well, because the GOP doesnt care who they vote for or if that person will represent them. They just flat out hate the left. So their voter turnout will be more solid than Dems no matter how much trump hurts them.

The Israel situation has been boiling for almost 80 years now. If you need to make your leaders lose one election to send a message that they need to change their tune on it, so be it.

Reagan looking up from the lower layer of Hell at Epstein and thinking "That's my boy!"

ghislaine is alive, and she is serving her purpose to achieve israel's aims.

THiel has been allowing israel to use PALANTIR to target iranian palestinian targets for a while now.

If we could both get on with it then

israel will be able to use more us soldiers, or assets without compromising thier own troops, and losing support in thier own country. thats what israel is really afraid of, they are afraid of being cut-off from military aid in the coming elections.

Friendly reminder that that's obviously complete nonsense