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[–] 77 points 5 months ago (1 child)

Zuck building a bunker for his ex-military head of security who will murder him instantly.

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  • [–] 35 points 5 months ago (26 children)

    What is their plan when we just pour two meters of concrete on the bunker entrances?

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I would expect them to be. It seems like a very obvious flaw if not. Though with hubris more obvious things have been ignored before

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    Do you know how to build an EMP?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    Buck shot, pit traps, or just cages will be lower tech solutions

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    If I've learned anything from robot combat shows is that robots can't deal with any entanglement device like strings and nets.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I've always heard that the ceramic on spark plugs, when smashed to manageable pieces, makes excellent material for destroying electronics when propelled by a 12g round.

    Never tried it though...kind of curious.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The more important question is: are they very, VERY good boys who like belly scritches and fetching sticks?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I need to be protected from millions of angry people.

    How about robot dogs?

    Won't they need maintenance?

    We will have maintenance people.

    Won't they need power?

    We will have a power plant with operators running it.

    Won't we need replacement parts?

    We will have manufacturing facility with operators running it.

    Won't we need to house all the people running our infustructure?

    We will build them living facilities and pay them wages.

    Won't they want families and a fulfilling life?

    We will provide resources for them to prosper.

    Isn't that called society, you know, the people that want to kill me?

    Thats why we have the robot dogs.

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    They aren’t “all of a sudden”. They’ve been bunkering up for decades.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    It's also not necessarily indicative of anything. $100M is nothing for Zuckerberg, about 0.05% of his estimated net worth.

    For context, excluding billionaires, your average 42 year old American (Zuckerberg's age) is worth about $135k*. 0.05% of $135k is about $68.

    Given the choice, would you spend $68 to completely cover you just in case the world falls apart? Most people would. I certainly would.

    *That still includes some pretty wealthy people that skew it higher, so don't feel bad if you're not even close in net worth. I'm sure not!

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I don’t know what’s worse. That ~40 year olds are worth so little or that the “$68” is so little of Zuck’s worth.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago*

    Definitely the second, the second is 10000x worse.

    If someone is only worth "that little" but society provides free healthcare, childcare, education, price controlled utilities, housing, and food, and income security through some form of universal income, and everything was clean and green because billionaires didn't exist and the extra gold hoarding blood money went into society and making sure the earth would stay safe for humans, everyone would be much better off.

    A high net worth isn't needed when all of your basic needs are covered and billionaires aren't ramming prices of everything up 2-10x

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  • [–] 66 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    People refusing to work for them would put a quick end to them.

    They need us way more than we need them. They're the parasites, we're the hosts.

    If you know someone who works directly under a billionaire's umbrella, shame them. Make it uncool to work at Meta, or SpaceX, selling Teslas, or Amazon at any level. Make it uncool to work on their yachts, or in their homes, or as their driver, etc.

    We DO have the power, we need to exercise it together.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago*

    Make it uncool to work on their yachts, or in their homes, or as their driver, etc.

    Hang on a sec, some of these jobs come with the opportunity to, uh, do something very cool.

     

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I 90% agree with, but given the state of the economy, lots of people gotta pay the bills and finding another job is difficult if not impossible right now. And that's exactly by design. Not to mention working inside one of these companies comes with the potential for sabotage. Maybe lets not shame people who don't get the luxury of choice right now.

    And of course, encourage union participation as well as any form of sabotage that one can perform that won't end in the death or harm of innocents.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    It's much easier to clog up air intakes than storm an above ground building

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    He is building a bunker mistakenly thinking it will not be his tomb.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    They know climate change is an extremely major problem

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    This delights me... to be a fly on the wall of that bunker!

    Should he ever use it, he'll find out that locking himself in with his staff was a massive error in judgment. They will tear him apart.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Should he ever use it, he'll find out that locking himself in with his staff was a massive error in judgment. They will tear him apart.

    I'm sure these billionaires have found a solution that makes perfect sense to them.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    The collars will be vibe coded by the lowest bidder's roommate's nephew and will immediately explode once the doors are closed leaving them effectively stranded inside, helpless to watch on the security cameras as the concrete trucks roll up to seal off the doors...

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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    When they all go to their bunkers, we should block the doors and build an equitable society

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The joke's on them, we'll just weld the doors shut from the outside.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    The billionaires are going to bury themselves, you say?

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Because there is an impending global catastrophe they have determined is unavoidable and unpreventable that they have kept under wraps due to the inevitable collapse of society once people learn of it. This is why there are no long term plans for anything anymore. Because there won't be a long term.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    There never were long term plans. Market economics is an evolutionary system. Business are the organisms with that system (so are nations, and any other organization made of people, really). So long as a business metabolizes human labor into profit, it continues. What looks like planning was really just ~two centuries of exponential growth. There is no driver's seat, not really. The capitalist that forsakes profit doesn't stay a capitalist long. The system itself imposes a greater selective pressure than any individual human will. It will outlast last its components... until it doesn't. Nothing can maintain both exponential growth and equilibrium within it's environment.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Its not really all of a sudden though. These assholes have been building their bunkers for a decade. All part of their schemes.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The only satisfaction I'm getting out of any of this bullshit is the knowledge that these fuckers will at best live a few weeks longer than me after it all goes to shit. In that time they'll have plenty of opportunity to reflect on where they went wrong.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    No they won't. Locking yourself in a bunker is about the worst thing you can do in a major crisis. At worst, you are locking yourself in with your own murderers, at best your supplies will dwindle until you have nothing and die. Real life crisis scenarios prove that peppers are only the haves for about an extra week before they join the have-nots. The only way through hardship is together.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Real life crisis scenarios prove that peppers are only the haves for about an extra week before they join the have-nots

    After having pissed off the have-nots by being insufferable selfish assholes...

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Underground? On an island? On a volcano?

    You fool!

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    They are trying to avoid being eaten when the time comes.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    Build an underground bunker on an active volcano. I see no possible problem with this plan.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    They are not living in reality anymore. There is something within these Techbros that denies consensus reality and substitutes some kind of simulation of their own.

    That's the reason this guy can build a bunker on an island close to the water on a volcano.

    There is also some interesting symbolism in there.

    They feel the need to hide from the people, because they know they would face the fate of Johan de Witt if the people ever found out what they did to them.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    There's something that happens to your brain when you get lots of money it seems.

    Sam Bankman-Fried the disgraced crypto entrepreneur was an effective altruist with a few of his coworkers and their goal was helping people. I was reading up on them and it was initially about feeding people and earning money to give to others. When they started getting more and more money they were like: "what if there's a zombie outbreak?" Obviously, we're really smart and society needs people like us to survive so we should be spending money on private islands and having our own country to make sure we can keep humanity going or some shit. It was weird.

    Despite what anything thinks about Bill Burr now ... I think he had a really good point about these "end of the world" catastrophes -- I simply don't want to be alive for any of them. I don't wanna be scrounging around the remnants of humanity with a dying ecosystem and dwindling human race.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    There are no active volcanos on Kauai; they are only active above the hot spot which Kauai has been moving away from for about 5 million years.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Hot spots are by nature in constant flux. Kauai isn't nearly far enough from the main plume to say for absolute certainty that a flare in the mantle couldn't cause the dormant volcano there to reactivate. At the very least there are seismic events to consider. There was a 6.0 quake about a week ago just outside of Kona. That is plenty to potentially cause a landslide of cave-in on Kauai. These could also cause tsunamis which could cause all sorts of issues for a bunker.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    The Hawaiian Islands are an archipelago, the furthest being Kure Atoll which is about 30 million years old. The hot spot that has created this archipelago is activating volcanos on the Big Island, as well as the Kamaʻehuakanaloa Seamount.

    The reason the volcanos on Kauai are extinct is the direction the Pacific tectonic plate is moving.

    I made no arguments against any other type of events affecting his future crypt, only that Kauai is not an island with an active volcano.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    The volcano on Kauai is classed as extinct, which means it has not erupted in the last 10,000 years. You are right there. My point is that there are plenty of documented cases of extinct volcanoes reactivating. Hayli Gubbi in Ethiopia and Fourpeaked in Alaska are both examples.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago*

    Zuck:

    My actions might lead to the most anti social behavior ever conceived including: genocide; cataclysm; and living in a hole in the ground

    My mom:

    "Likes anti-trans propaganda on Facebook"

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    It would be highly karmic if a natural seismic shift made the island tip or break, sinking his bunker to the bottom of the ocean.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    Or an earthquake collapsed the bunker on top of him the day after he went in.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    That would be the proper end of it was a movie or TV series.

    Seriously though. These guys are draining the money from the world, building bunkers, and with the full knowledge the rest of us will burn.

    Fix nothing. Save yourself.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I honestly wouldn't read too much into these bunkers. Wealth inequality is the bigger issue. Zuck has a net worth of about $220 billion. $100 million to Zuck is like a middle class family with a net worth of $300k spending $136. An underground bunker for Zuck is like dinner and a few drinks for most people.

    So why do they have bunkers? Because they can. If you could build a doomsday bunker under your house for a hundred bucks, wouldn't you? People invest far more than that in storm shelters. Read something sinister into it if you want. But this seems like a "because we can" expense more than anything.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    This is a reasonable analysis. I guess because we are in a (silent) Cold War 2.0 and the world population became disillusioned with globalisation, billionaires building their own bunker is their insurance policy should the world is thrown into another chaos. After all, many countries who could afford did build bunkers for their citizens during the first Cold War, in case we decide launch nukes and extinct ourselves. Billionaires building their own bunkers is not different.

    But on the one hand, there could be something intentionally sinister. Several billionaires, especially Peter Thiel and Elon Musk, are accelerationists. They see the world is going to end and so might as well speed it up and get on with. Although, they want to rule the ashes after. That's their idea.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    Come on. If you had all the money in the world you'd probably build one too, tbh. I know i would. I would build a freaking underground network like extra homes. It would be awesome

    but yeah, zuck probably is doing it for evil reasons.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago
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    They know exactly how unstable Donald is

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Because they think a bunker will help them. Eventually people will get so pissed off that even the oligarchs own guards are a risk to them.

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