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[–] 114 points 5 months ago (39 children)

Just for adultery? the list is a lot longer... a lot lot longer.

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  • [–] 52 points 5 months ago (36 children)

    Is there a commandment he hasn’t broken

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  • [–] 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (34 children)

    Maybe number 6. Don't murder. But that is hard to confirm. All the other 9 he has afaik.

    Edit: Since people keep claiming that he did break it I would just like to say I always interpreted the commandment to mean direct murder.

    He killed many more people by declaring wars there is no doubt about it.

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  • [–] 26 points 5 months ago (14 children)

    Well the Epstein files have him marked as someone present for the murder of a baby. My bet is on 4. He definitely doesn't do shit on Sunday except golf and post bullshit

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    Yeah I know that's why I said hard to confirm. But at the same time being present is not exactly 100% the same as doing the killing. Not defending it just saying it's not said he personally killed the baby.

    Wait isn't 4 about respecting your parents? He definitely does not go to church/do anything relating to praising god on Sundays.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    4 is keep the Sabbath holy. Respecting parents is 5.

    As a side note, God's priorities are kinda fucked up that not murdering isn't even in the top 5 commandments

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    Well I guess it depends on the locale. Where I live respecting the Sabbath/god's day is 3, respecting parents is 4 and not killing is 5.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (5 children)

    It would be nice if somebody had written them down, back in the day.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Translations and all that. Some got aplit while others got combined.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Split and combined? The fuck? There’s ten of them.

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    Depends on which sect. 7th Day Adventists believe the Sabbath is on Saturday. The Catholic Church and several Protestant sects believe the Sabbath is Sunday.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Funny, anyone literate enough to get through the first couple lines of the storybook, that has bothered to read it, knows that "god rested on the seventh day" also called the Sabbath, the day jews are supposed to not do anything. Christianity is such a stupid mess that it can't agree with itself over the meaning of its own prequel.

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  • [–] 49 points 5 months ago* (10 children)

    He gave the ok to blow up fishing boats in Central America. He started a war to distract from the Epstein files which has probably already cost thousands of lives. The economic turmoil the war will cause globally will probably kill tens of thousands, if not more.

    He quite possibly pushed his wife down a flight of stairs, killing her.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    The first examples are murder but I don't think in the way the commandments mean it. He could justofy it by some kind of way the wars and killing in the bible are justified.

    He might have. He was also present at the killing of a baby (Epstein files). But so far we don't have direct proof of him killing someone directly.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    When a president starts a war solely as a criminal obstruction strategy, that isn't justified by the Bible, that's just straight up murder.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It is not direct murder. Arguably it's even worse. I never said it's justified by the bible but they make their excuses and lie why they really started it.

    This whole debate has gpt out of hand. The point is that he has pretty much broken every single commandment.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    If you order the murder of another person, knowing it will be carried out, you are committing murder. Trump ordering war to distract from his own legal issues is no different than a mob boss ordering the murder of someone who is bothering him. It's murder, even if you don't pull the trigger.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Found this doc from the epstein files that refers to the reported incident of a sex trafficked woman's baby being killed while Trump was present: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00025010.pdf

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    There's also allegations that people involved with Epstein were killing kids and eating them. See the Sascha Riley tapes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ec/podcast/roasting-the-broligarchy-the-sascha-riley-tapes/id1723123705?i=1000745506603 . As far as I know, Trump isn't directly implicated, but there's a very real possibility he knew about it and participated. There's also alot of very strange emails with a bunch of very wealthy, powerful people making a weirdly big deal out of jerky: https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1qz0gaq/most_interesting_jerky_mentions/ . Hard to say for sure, but seems odd if that jerky weren't something rather forbidden.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    He may have not pulled the trigger, but indirectly he is responsible for a lot of deaths.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    Sure. But I always interpreted the commandment to mean murder in the more direct sense.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Why? Either way you're responsible for the death. I'm pretty sure God wouldn't be ok with hiring a hitman just because there's one layer of abstraction in between you and the act.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    God just wanted us to learn proper design patterns, but then we came up with enterprise Java. The abstraction layers were stacked so high, God punished us by creating thousands of frontend framework in JavaScript!

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago*

    The word is ratsach broadly means “destroy.” That carries a broad personal culpability that “murder” does not fully cover. There are other words for killing used in the context of justice, so ratsach is about personal responsibility for any unjust killing, intentional and unintentional.

    Murdering fishermen, school children, aiding genocide, ordering the murder of an infant, inciting an insurrection that resulted in death, fomenting followers who murdered in his name, and more cases too numerous to name all paint him guilty of violating the sixth at enormous scale.

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  • [–] 44 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    Shit, according to the Bible he is the spitting image of the antichrist.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    No, but you see. This is good because it means the rapture is near.

    /s

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Man, can you imagine how pleasant and peaceful it'd be if all these assholes get raptured?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    It would be funnier if everyone but them got raptured. If heaven includes those assholes I'd just as soon stay here.

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  • [–] 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Let he who hasn't partied with Jeffrey Epstein throw the first stone

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Got some bricks for me? As a loan. I'll return them, promised

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  • [+] 20 points 5 months ago (4 children)
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    I don't get how americans can swear on bible or even believe in christianity. Did they ever read it? Their whole country, from the moment it was created, from the very first day, was built on constant commitment to being sent to hell.

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    So in the Bible adultery is specifically having sex with another (Hebrew) man's wife, not merely having sex outside marriage. Having sex with other women while married is allowed and sometimes even encouraged in the Bible. For example:

    Deuteronomy 20:13-14

    And when the Lord your God gives it into your hand, you shall put all its males to the sword, but the women and the little ones, the livestock, and everything else in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as plunder for yourselves. And you shall enjoy the spoil of your enemies, which the Lord your God has given you.

    It's plausible Trump has had sex with other men's wives, though no specific example comes to mind.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Moses, after coming down Mt Sinai with the 10 Commandments, which of course contains the very memorable "Thou shalt not murder" then immediately goes out and genocides the entire kingdom of Og.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    For the nit-pickers perhaps just put him to death one time each for the "bearing false witness" and then we can get to the adultery afterwards.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    what about not honoring his father and mother? can we put it to death for that too?

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Keep your religion to yourself

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Isn't that a violation of church-state split? Or does that not apply to schools in the US?

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    so the bible is kind of important culturally when understanding literature written in english, so us schools will often cover it somewhat in that kind of context in the same way that "what is the quran" is a reasonable thing for a kid to know. presenting the bible as fact goes against the separation, but saying "this is a book" doesn't

    trump, being bad, is proposing dumb dumb fascist gibberish propaganda class (illegal, not enforced)

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    According to the Bible, fella oughta tie a millstone around his neck and jump into the sea himself rather than try to make an appointment at the pearly gates.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    And don't forget about his mixed garments!! 🤮

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Rabia is freaking cool af.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    He wouldn't know that though.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I mean to be fair, thats why the bible should be studied. Its a pretty complex text, being extremely internally inconsistant especially because it was written by many. Understanding the historical and literary context is also important. This is true for both believers and non-believers cause if someone in an absolute power condition gives you instructions you still have to interpret it. If your teacher tells you to pay more attention, youre not gonna pay them literally. Now add a thousand years of linguistic change to that and it suddenly means to viewbot your tikslop account.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    What's the point of reading the bible if you don't follow any of its teachings?

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    "Yeah I'm Christian, but I don't follow the Bible, or go to church, or believe in God."

    Do you know anything about religion? Lol. The whole point is that you try to follow the teachings of whatever holy book you subscribe to.

    Bet you thought you were cooking with that stupid reply lol go touch grass or something.

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    [–] -4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I notice a significant pattern, children who have the Bible and the Faith duck pressed into them as kids grow up hateful and eventually leave Christianity as a whole, whilst people that found the Faith themselves as either kids, teens, adults, dont usually leave Christianity and have thus have a higher chance of actually receiving the Holy Spirit instead of viewing Church and Mass as "boring" and quitting. Kids will hate whatever theyre forced to do and grow up to hate it, so dont force them to read the Bible or go to Mass, suggest it to them, give them the pros and cons and let them decide

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    There’s plenty of people that get raised xtian and stay there for the remainder of their life growing up to become hateful bigots. There’s also plenty of people who become xtians later in life as an outsider and start adopting problematic views when they do so. Which are just as significant patterns.

    A significant pattern doesn’t mean a statistical majority.

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  • [+] -6 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    that is the old testament, which has been fulfilled by Jesus when he died for our sins

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (8 children)

    That's Paulian/Roman nonsense. Jesus preached duty and righteousness and you will taste Hell as one should if you don't do as Jesus did, within your personal limitations ofc. You're supposed to believe and behave like Jesus (he doesn't even use himself as an example because he understands only God is truly good, he says we have to be "perfect like the Father", a monotheist maxim), not "in Jesus" like he's Zeus or something.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (7 children)

    all of us are sinners that is fact we cannot be as perfect as Jesus We are supposed to TRY our best to be like Jesus we CANNOT be completely like Jesus, and believing so is prideful.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Jesus wasn't perfect, he was a righteous man though, a very clever and selfless one (and not everyone is blessed with his intelligence or enough clarity to be selfless). We must follow his lead the same way he followed/was inspired by previous prophets.

    Ofc if you believe in Jesus, "the anthropomorphic deity part of a tripartite pantheon" instead of Jesus the wandering rabbi, things start getting messy. Sorry if I'm triggering, I don't mean to be but I know anyone who believes in anything in earnest might be.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    Jesus had one nature, divine and human.

    and Jesus was literally sinless.

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