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[–] 45 points 5 months ago (20 children)

as an aphantasiac I will literally describe the worst possible scene and you will be forced to picture it

and I will win

:3

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    Yeah i'm like 80% aphantasiac, I can picture maybe the last time I saw a cow I, could probably imagine something else in the static scene, I can't even really make it turn it's head.

    There's no rotating it.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    All I got is dark gray static. No cows. The occasional moving blob of different dark gray static.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I can think about how a cow looks, colors, patters, what a cow might do but I can’t visualize anything. I didn’t know there was a word for this or that people could actually visualize things in their mind. I thought it was just a turn of phrase.

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    My dreams aren't visually detailed, but i'm not sure that's necessarily unique. I also have trouble with faces, but I can remember really long selections of words and numbers.

    Oddly I can do a really good job drawing 2d and 3d things from reference art if they're 1:1

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    I have an idea or a concept of a cow. Turns out that's not standard either and falls under aphantasia.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Same, but I remember that I used to not be able to stop rotating things in my head… wonder if aphantasia can develop with age or maybe brain damage (yay covid, messed up some flavours and smells for me too, artificial mango flavour stuff tastes like TV static)

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    You're also free from seeing horrific things you've experienced over and over again. What are your dreams like?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    That might not be specifically aphantasia, but closely related symptom called SDAM(severly deficient autobiographical memory), but yes, I'm immune to seeing or reliving any of the past traumatic or bad events. Lived through past or experiences don't exist for me.

    I don't have dreams or at least the handful of times per year i have something that might resemble a dream. It's forgotten within minutes after waking up.

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  • [–] 43 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    Why is the cow wearing a thong? :(

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  • [–] 28 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    You'd rather it be naked that's fine you can rotate naked cows

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Yo everybody! Get a load of this guy! His rotating mind cows are naked!

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  • [–] 40 points 5 months ago (20 children)

    Aphantasia enters the chat.

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  • [+] -36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (18 children)
  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    I mean, it's a pretty hard thing to understand if you don't know about aphantasia. Since we can't know what other people experience in their mind, what we perceive is considered 'normal' because that's all we know.

    I didn't realize I had aphantasia until I was 18. Doesn't mean I suddenly became aphantasic at that same time.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I was 48 when I discovered that I had Aphantasia. I was blown away that when I learned that people could imagine pictures in their mind’s eye.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Same here. I think it was actually this meme that did it. I saw people commenting that they could not and I'm like "ha yeah, of course you can't, who can do that?". The lots of people are like, yeah, I can create a complex 3d shape in my mind and manipulate it, turn it, get closer, etc. I'm like WTF who are these megamind savants who can do this. Turns out, most people.

    I felt very alone and very incapable after that realization.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Man...same. Had no idea people could actually picture something in their mind until I was well into my 20s. Wasn't until that point where I felt like I was at such a major disability at work compared to everyone else..the amount of times I was told, "picture this..." not realizing they meant literally.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I am curious about this condition. What goes on in your head and how did you figure out you had aphantasia? Now I am trying to imagine a rotating cow after reading the comments (didn't imagine it when I saw the meme), and I can only recreate in my head the gif somebody posted in one of the comments.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It's like knowing a cow is the room next door. You are aware of the cow but you can't see it. If someone says the cow is brown, you are now aware the cow in the room next door is a brown cow but you can't see it because it's in another room. Except the other room is your mind.

    I don't need to see a cow to imagine it in the next room. Same concept.

    It's easy to figure out if you have aphantasia. Think of a cow. Do you see a cow?

    It's not a condition or a disability, it's just a different way that some brains work. Don't fall into the trap of - it's outside the majority so it must be a deficiency. Most people with aphantasia don't even know they have it.

    Also, strangely I can rotate a cow in my mind, but there is no visual feedback. I "feel" the cow rotating. I choose where in the physical space to project the imagined cow and there is the imagined "physical" sensation of the cow spinning as if it's an extension of my mind. I can imagine sound as well. But I don't see anything.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago*

    I have an easier time feel it moving that seeing it. But I can see it and I doesn't rotate on the same axe than all those GIF. The legs goes up until it is on its back then back where I can't see them and on its legs again.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    I got recommended a video that introduced the term to me and it was a very jarring realization.

    Personally I've always struggled with expressing my thoughts in general. Before I learned about aphantasia I had started saying it was like I think in concepts instead of words or pictures. I know what I'm thinking and it's not like it's a vague idea, but for whatever reason actually translating it into a real language is really hard for me. I have an easier time writing out my thoughts than I do speaking them at least.

    The most I can visualize are a few 'vivid' images that I spent a lot of time curating, usually from listening to music or remembering a dream I wrote down. Even then, When I try to think about those little exceptions, it's still only a tiny fraction of the whole image that I can really come up with. Thinking about it now, it's super weird to describe! I got super intro writing after I figured out I had aphantasia (shattered my hopes of being able to draw. But that doesn't mean aphantasic people can't draw. I just learned how to draw incorrectly and it screwed me over) and I like to think I'm decent at describing visuals despite all this.

    To use the gif as an example, I can really only imagine the frame, moving images are practically impossible for me. And it's really only the sillohuete I can make out.

    I also realized I'm face blind too, and part of me wonders how much that correlates to aphantasia

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I think I understand what you are saying. I have a hard time imagining scenes, especially when I am reading, and definitely not in any vivid detail. For example, there is a kitchen scene in a book I am currently reading. I vaguely picture the kitchen of the house from my childhood but that is pretty much all I can come up with. I don't think that is aphantasia, though.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    While a prevalence of 0.8% may seem like a tiny amount but when applied to a large population it's a significant number of people. Let's say a city has a nice round 100,000 people, a small city by any measure. That's 800 people, not such a small number anymore. The lives of those 800 people are worth thinking about. Granted in the context of a larger population but it's still something.

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    [–] 75 points 5 months ago* (6 children)

    Consider the consequences of your actions, please!

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Is it worth it? That depends. What percentage of the boys does it bring to the yard?

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  • [–] 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    When I used to have to go to church as a kid, I'd imagine I was starting a new save file of Zelda Ocarina of Time. By the time mass was over I'd usually be up to one of the first rooms in the Great Deku Tree, in my head. It was only decades later I learned I was also autistic, but that's a story for another day!

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    A polish song about doing cocaine playing quietly

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Am I supposed to assume a spherical cow?

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Traitorous people want to make you believe for some reason that YOU CAN do things WITHOUT your LOCAL CORPORATION knowing. TO USE such DANGEROUS things as IMAGINATION is ANTI AMERICAN, and is the attempt of ILLEGAL ALIENS to weaken the AMERICAN ECONOMY which is doing great, best it has ever been, yesterday a big economy, strong economy; beautiful economy, came down to me, tears down its eyes, thanking me, saying mister President, thank you so much for making me beautiful again, and I said of course I did, after SLOW POWEL got out, I was able to lower interest rates, devalue the dollar and FORCE AMERICAN FACTORIES back so that great products like most AMERICAN products can really SUCEED and BRING the AMERICAN DREAM BACK contrary to CHINA which is faltering, have you seen how mismanaged their real estate sector is, I could’ve done much better, cause I am a GENIUS and clearly I am amazing, did you see how I ACED MULTIPLE COGNITIVE TESTS, they asked me list these animals, and I said, it’s obvious, woman man person camera TV and the doctor, she speaking of XI, he’s an amazing leader who is making China great and TOLD ME that I PREVENTED AMERICAN DECLINE AND AM NOW ON ROUTE TO A GOLDEN AGE like my BALLROOM which is GOLDEN and TACTICAL, and SAFE just like our stock market IT IS RISING AND BETTER THAN EVER. THANK YOU FOR YOU ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER, PRESIDENT DONALD JOHNATHAN TRUMP

    Gotta be honest, sleep deprivation really helps with these

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    ...and the cops can't stop you

    Neither can the cow hehehehehehe

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    I don't even have to close my eyes to do this

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    I have seen aphantasia mentioned many times but don't forget about hyperphantasia

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Thank you for sharing.

    I have a thing were I can imagine speech without having to imagine sounds. I don't know how to call that. That is some sort of quiet internal narration for my imagination that happened when I read a lot. When I watch a lot of movies, I end up imagining camera mouvement, like traveling and zoom in/out. It is like I can imagine vividly but the way my imagination express itself is out of my control and depend on my recent environnement.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I like to interpret the flow of imagination as a river that has impressions in it. I can play with that at will, be precise and specific or just observe what passes by, zoom out to a broader view. There is energy where is concentration. But if I am tired or bored and have to do repetitious tasks, it can be very distracting to dream away and I think this is important to consider for people that are creative. Many are diagnosed with ADHD or other conditions when they just haven't found out enough about themselves.

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  • Me: Low chuckle

    Mind police: "Hands up!"

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    That did not solve my boredom.

    I made the cow walk upright, gave the cow a bardiche, made 665 more cows like that, and made them raid a village.

    That was entertaining.

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    Why stop at cows?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    This is very Zen. Im going to keep this.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Thanks for the very valuable tip, person whose name is Hot Diarrhea.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    "Don't have a cow, man!"
    - Bart Simpsons, police officer

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