I just exported my playlists as csvs and have switched to VLC with downloaded music. It has playlists and works with both my Android Auto and my Cardo for my motorcycle helmet. Spotify has been cancelled.

FWIW, I do believe there are Spotify-exclusive artists and Spotify-first releases.

But, Qobuz and Tidal both pay artists significantly better than Spotify; I recommend Qobuz. YT Music might be slightly better than Spotify for now, but Google is taking all the enshittified parts of Spotify and trying to do the same things to YT Music as fast as possible.

You’d be surprised at how addicted the kids are to their brain rot. Look at how much hate YouTube gets, and yet- they’re more profitable than ever.

Stockholm Syndrome of the modern tech world. And it gets so much worse from here.

I am proud to admit I have never subscribed to shit. You give them an inch then they make you their bitch. They already get the ads even if you pull your pants down. Repect yourself and drop all subscriptions and get a library card nerds

The only "review" that Spotify will understand.

And get off play store.

And even if you don't want a subscription service you can still buy stuff from them :)

Is there a way to see their library without signing up? Ive ditched spotify already but the problem i have is half the artists i like seem to only be on yt and spotify

I've been using Qobuz for a while and it's fine. I feel like I lost a bunch of niche artists when I moved from YT Music to Tidal and then more when I moved from Tidal to Qobuz. Still, it's got a wide selection and much of it is absolutely audiophile quality.

I wish their Android app had a legitimate offline mode. I have a playlist downloaded that I use when driving, but I often have WiFi in the driveway when I start it. This cause Qobuz to decide to stream the song, and then it continues streaming instead of using the downloaded songs, while I drive around and using way more data than I'd like. I've started turning off mobile data, and only hitting play once I think I'm far enough away from the house, but sometimes I'll drive past somewhere I have the saved WiFi for and Qobuz will switch to streaming, and then just stop playing with no error message in Android Auto once I leave the WiFi and the buffer runs out.

I wish their web app would allow me to access the "For Me" "Daily Qobuz" and "Weekly Qobuz" dynamic playlists. They are a fine way to start my day with a mix of stuff I know I like and new experiences -- but I have to open up my phone to start them, because that section is just compeltely missing from the web version.

I still recommend Qobuz every time I'm asked because they both pay artists more and aren't based in the United States (so they are less likely to kowtow to Trump); I even did the 3-year plan when it was offered. But, my personal experience is worse with them than the other services I've used.

I wish Qobuz was available in Slovenia 😓

I've had the opposite experience with Tidal vs Qobuz. Tidal had almost none of what I listen to, but Qobuz did the best job of catching my library when I migrated.

I think it depends entirely on what your music interests are. But I've been pretty happy with Qobuz.

Not to Joe Rogan.

Hmm, I grew up with the pirate stuff back in the day but am kind of at the age where I don't mind paying a little more for things I appreciate. I'm into self-hosting and all, but would love for there to be an ethical and legal alternative to recommend 😅. I think I would miss the jam-feature the most on such a route, as sharing the playlist/queue wherever you are from a huge catalog with friends is difficult to maintain. It seems that convenience is always the way they keep you locked in ☹️

Would prefer to support Google as little as possible. Why use YouTube?

Well, the review/opinion is there for others to see, while just leaving would not make any waves at all. Granted, it may as well be both, but I'm not sure where to go, yet. For instance, as Deezer's Android app are just 0.1 out of 5 behind it might just tip someone in a better(?) direction. Honestly I thought most of the competitor apps would have been better by now, as they were pretty slick back in the Zune days already from what I remember.

It's been known that Spotify is the worst platform for artists for YEARS. If you don't hate the people who make your music then leave that dogshit platform

you sound like a smart person

DEEP SPACE RADIO

It is a streaming service, but seeing as (first) it lets podcasts and music intermingle and (most recently) says it doesn't mind slop, I have a hard time imagining people who actually like music subscribing.

Its a scam