My perfect coffee:

  • fill bottle of the same volume as my press with water.
  • pour ~10% of it in the electric kettle, and start it.
  • put two (or three) full teaspoons of light roasted fine ground coffee in the press
  • the water boiled. pour it into the press.
  • put remaining cold water in kettle, start it again.
  • shake the press a bit so coffee hydrates and foams. Cover the press.
  • grab a coffee paper filter (circle) fold it in "pizza-like" shape 4 times and cut the outer skirt, so the new radius is about 1cm larger than the press filter.
  • rest of the water is boiling now, pre-water+coffee mix has no foam. Fill press with water.
  • put the paper filter on top, and insert the plunger so that along all the inner circumference, the paper filter is between the press inner wall and the plunger.
  • press the coffee very slowly, don't rush it at all. It will take you a solid minute or a bit more.

Now you have crystal, non acidic, and flavorful golden coffee. I usually pour a cup immediately, and put the rest in an all-metal insulated little bottle.

I divide the water in two parts to quickly get rid of the foam under the paper filter. Foam makes the pressing way slower. If you have time, you can immediately boil the whole water volume, but leave the coffee mix covered for 5-10 mins and the foam will be gone by then.

Press coffee maker with a circle of paper filter on the side. A full teaspoon of ground coffee is being held in front of it

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[–] 22 points 5 months ago (23 children)

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You just need a decent ground coffee and this thing will make a perfect coffee. Of course, you'll get an espresso size coffee, but I prefer it that way.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    They have a super sized one too

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah. But you don't want to drink a 500ml cup of the kind of coffee these make. At least if you want to survive the day.

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    Yeah, but an americano is just an espresso with an offensive amount of water. It's not a 500ml espresso, so the big moka is still pointless.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Hey, just wanted to say after our conversation I ended up picking one up last night after finding the 3 cup size on sale as my local shop. I made some this morning and loved it! Definitely the best coffee I’ve made at home. I made some for my wife too and she also really enjoyed it. Clean up was also super easy. Thanks for the info, it was way better than I expected it to be.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Awesome! Glad you like it! What model did you get in the end? The traditional moka or a venus? Was it an original Bialetti or a different brand? What coffee did you get? And did you use preheated water? Was the stove top an issue?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I went for the 3 cup Bialetti Moka Express. The coffee was Three Sisters by Kicking Horse. I think they’re Canada exclusive but I could be wrong. They’re probably not enthusiast specialty beans or anything but they’re available everywhere here, they’re not crazy expensive, and I like the taste. The one I had was very chocolatey, which I like in a coffee. Which is funny because I hate it in a beer.

    For the stovetop issue, I followed a guide. Preheat your stovetop on medium heat, and while it’s heating boil the kettle. Then use the freshly boiled water in the moka, screw it together, and put on the centre of the burner. When the coffee first starts coming out, move it to the edge of the burner, so half (or more than half) of the base of the pot is off the heat, and as soon as it starts to sputter remove from heat immediately. The guide also did mention to run cold water over the base of the pot once it starts to sputter if it doesn’t immediately stop after removing it from heat, but I didn’t have that issue so I didn’t bother with cold water. It sounds unnecessarily complicated but it really wasn’t a big deal at all. The whole process was only a couple minutes.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (13 children)

    What type of stove top do you have? I was curious and looked up that coffee maker and everything shows it with gas but I have ceramic. I looked it up and got very mixed results on how well it fares. Some people recommended the Venus instead if you aren’t running gas, but that’s double the price. Do you know anything about that?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

    Venus are made in steel instead of alluminium so they work in induction stove tops. But the working principle of them is the same as the moka so in a ceramic both of them would have the same issue.

    I think the problem with the valve may be related to using a bigger stove top than the moka; normally, you put the moka in a fire that's smaller than it's base and just wait until water boils. Reading the instructions of the moka it says that when using something that's not gas fire, you should use a medium intensity but they say specifically to use a source of heat that's smaller than the heater part of the pot. However, if you are having issues with that because of the ceramic, I'd recommend to preheat the water near boiling point and use that water for the moka; that way you'll have the coffee made sooner and your stove top won't have the time to turn off and on before the coffee is made.

    Also, since we are talking about them: always clean your moka with water and nothing else. Do not use soaps or anything for the inner parts of it, just clean water!

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    Good point about preheating the water. I might try that if I pick one up.

    How annoying are they to clean?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Annoyingly easy. As in you just rinse it in water and use your hand without any soap to clean the rests of the coffee. Just remember to change the rubber ring every year or so.

    Those things were made to last a lifetime, if you take basic care of it , like, again, cleaning it with just water, and using low-calcium water to prevent deposits that might end blocking the moka (I use filtered water from a brita jar), it will probably outlast you.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Thanks for all the info, I appreciate it. I’ll probably pick one up soon then. Do you use espresso beans for it? Or regular coffee beans? And how finely do you ground your beans, or do you get pre-ground?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I buy pre-ground. Usually kimbo and lavazza have products for moka pots; espresso coffee is not suited for these. If you want to ground yourself, keep in mind the grain shouldn't be as finely ground as for an espresso machine. Think a middle point between espresso and dripping machines.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (6 children)

    They make Induction friendly pots; I have one.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    My stove isn’t induction, it’s just a regular electric ceramic/glass stove top, but I’ve heard since it cuts in and out to regulate heat, it can cause issues with the pressure valve. Not sure if this is a case of trying to dial in flavours so finely it’s all likely bullshit or if it’s an actual noticeable difference. The problem for me with coffee (and same goes for audio equipment in my experience) is all the snobs swearing up and down they can tell the difference between the most minute things and claiming one completely ruins the experience where an average person likely couldn’t tell the difference if they tried both back to back and new which was which.

    Sorry, mini rant aside. Which model do you have? Do you remember? Or do you have a picture of it?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    It's Bialetti. It shouldn't matter that you don't have induction; it's made to be cross compatible. I use it on a gas stove.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Yes and no. Alluminium mokas are not induction compatible, but they do make some mokas whith the heater made of steel so they can be used in an induction kitchen. Venus are full steel so they are compatible. But it's important to keep this in mind so you don't buy an incompatible moka!

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago* (7 children)

    4 scoops of the cheapest ground coffee to a 1l French press.

    Then boiling water added and waiting for a bit before i can force the plunger down.

    Then poured into the biggest cup i have found at home and some sugar replacement added in.

    Now all the coffee lovers, you're free to pour out your hatred towards me.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    You'd honestly get a better cup, cheaper and with less effort from a high quality instant coffee.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    It's not about quality or taste really, it's just a cheapest caffeine delivery method.
    Instant coffee is much more expensive, nearl 50€/kg, 3in1 is around 20€/kg, beans are around 15-30+€/kg while the one i drink is around 3€/kg. So the price makes everything up for it.

    The only reason i don't use pills is that i can delay a little and slowly boot up in the morning while drinking the biggest cup i have.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Instant coffee is roughly 30€ per kg in German discounters with very ok quality. The marketing heavy brands are expensive due to marketing, not due to quality.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    I do basically the same thing. I just try to make sure it's light or medium roast, use brown sugar and a bit of milk, and the second half goes in the fridge to become iced rocket fuel for the next day. Also means I get to alternate making and cleaning.

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    Oh my god ... I'm a guy and I would probably shriek like Ned Flanders with my fists in the air if I saw this.

    Every time I go into a cafe of any kind, I look behind the bar to see what kind of machine they have. The board may advertise 'espresso, cappuccino, mochafrapamachitomoochoochoochinowhatever' ... but if you don't have a machine like this prominently sitting in the back for everyone to see, you aren't serving proper coffee.

    It's surprising how many places are out there that call themselves 'cafes' and have a simple $500 instant coffee machine in the back. The ones who aren't aware or don't care, just place the machine in full view and no one cares. Some places tastefully try to hide the machine and pretend they have an expensive machine somewhere serving coffee.

    But the gold standard is if you see a machine like the one in your image that costs $5,000 to $20,000 serving the most delicious coffee ... that is the point where I will pay $10 for a single shot of espresso.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    That looks amazing.

    My wife and I travelled to Europe many times over the past 30 years. We aren't wealthy, we were a couple of budget travellers that enjoyed seeing as much of the world as possible. One of our favourite things to do was to spend the entire day walking a new European city ... we never spent money on anything, we just enjoyed walking as much of the city as possible. We spent most of our time in southern Spain and northern Italy, the lands of coffee. The only thing we spent money on was coffee because we knew every major Spanish, Italian or French city would always have many great cafes with some of the most amazing espresso machines ever made. The first morning coffee was usually a cappuccino, then a walk and maybe a second one with a croissant or chocolate pastry. Then the rest of the day was an espresso or two and it was all enough to carry us all day until we had a great meal at the end of the day. In Italy, it was customary to eat your pizza meal and wrap it up with an espresso.

    Thanks so much for showing me this ... so many great and wonderful memories for me of being with my life partner just enjoying a simple cappuccino or espresso as we watched a new city. My wife passed away this past December, we had been together for just over 30 years. Your image has really made me happy ... at first I was joking that I would act like a silly idiot like Ned Flanders over some coffee ... but now your familiar image has me choking up with joy, sadness and nostalgia (but mostly joy). Enjoy your espresso, it looks amazing, it's made me happy and I'm very happy for you.

    EDIT: I was doing a quick search through some of our old photos and I thought you would be interested in this one .. Majestic Café in Porto, Portugal .... open 105 years ago in 1921, its described as a " It's a living museum of Belle Époque architecture where literary figures, artists, and intellectuals once gathered to debate ideas and shape Portuguese culture." ... not only do you get to have a great European coffee, you feel like you're having it after entering a time machine

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    It’s surprising how many places are out there that call themselves ‘cafes’ and have a simple $500 instant coffee machine in the back.

    Not when idiots (Rebbekkkahh) are ordering warm desserts they call coffee. They pile so much dairy, fat and sugar in, the coffee hardly matters.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I stood in line at a Tim Hortons the other day just to get a small black coffee because I was going for a walk.

    I was behind a young couple who looked like they were just hanging out. I thought this was going to be fast .... I stood there for 20 minutes ... because they had each ordered some sort of strange Mocha-cheeka-frapa-wach-a-me-call-it extra large with extra cream, six sugar, maple shot, vanilla shot ice frappachino thing .... the server had to jump from station to station pumping creamers, flavours, sugar, cream, ice and coffee and then over to a milkshake mixer to mix it all together for each one. I assumed the couple knew it was going to take long because as soon as they finished explaining and detailing their order to the server, they went to go sit down .... all while the rest of us 8 people in line had to wait.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I make a small latte (or three) on my Gaggia Classic.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I used to be a Breville man, pressing the tamper, admiring the crema, steaming the milk, even roasted my own beans there for a while. All that gear went with my ex. I'm more a tea drinker now.

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    Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    fill electric grinder to blades

    buzz for 10s

    put into moka pot

    boil

    drink

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  • I'm usually completely naked.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    I love filter coffee, but useally there is too much and stands too long on a too hot plate. Some months ago i got this in a sale. And I do like it. I got my fresh beans coffee and my wife her decaf (you can put pre-grinded coffee in on the top and tell it to skip grinding beans so it takes that instead)

    Outdoors i like Kokkaffe

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    V60, sustainable, equitable coffee because I'm no scumbag class traitor, hot water.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I use a Toddy cold brew thing I got a long time ago. Buy a pound of whatever, throw it in the container with water for a day. Drain it, and you've got coffee for two weeks that's low acid and quite enjoyable. Add hit water and a dash of milk-adjacent product and it's really quite enjoyable. And also very affordable.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    two weeks

    more like three days in my house, and there's only two of us!

    but yea Toddy is great. One part cold brew to four or five parts soymilk is how I usually do it. Hell, sometimes I'll add hot water in a similar ratio for a hot cup and it's still got an edge over regular hot drip brewed coffee

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    ... I cold brew just in a regular water carafe.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Typical routine:

    • weigh out 18g beans and grind
    • into the basket, WDT, tamp
    • pull a shot in the 40-50g range
    • enjoy as an espresso or steam some milk for a nice latte

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Upside down Aeropress, ideally with freshly ground beans from a vacuum container. Boil water, let it stand to cool down to 90 C, pour small amount in to aerate for 30 seconds. Pour rest in, close with double paper filter (pre-rinsed with some boiling water). Leave 1 minute. Slowly press. Dash of whole milk.

    Oh man, makes me want one now.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    75g into the French press, fill with room temp water, let it sit over night. Cold brew is great for getting a stronger cup from lighter roasts because it's nearly impossible to over-extract, allowing much higher ratios. You lose some bitterness, but you get a bunch of other flavors which are hard to get from other methods, like woody and floral notes.

    If I want it hot, I throw it in the microwave, and store the leftover in Tupperware for a day or two. Really it's the perfect method because it's all prep the night before, but doesn't require a countertop appliance.

    Bonus tip - you can eat coffee beans for a quick boost. They are quite tasty and have a satisfying crunch.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    I got a reusable metal filter for my aeropress and get beans from my bean guy (the local coffee shop roasts their own and I am no coffee snob but I am a foodie and they are amazing. Fuck. I am ten minutes away from eating a different sammie and my belly calls to their bakery) I am not good at making coffee but I am learning. I love what a moka pot makes but I do not have access to a reliable heating source for it at home (I can get it to work great camping but I don't have a good electric heating element. And I'm not going to get one I am sick of trying)

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I wish I liked coffee because there seems to be so many interesting ways of making it, but it tastes like someone farted in an ashtray and then poured hot water in.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I cannot stress this enough: starbucks and friends' coffee is undrinkable; burnt, acid, 3rd-degree burning. An absolute abomination.

    Perhaps you could give it a try at home. My only "trick" is to exclusively buy light-roasted arabica coffee. (the light-roasted part being much more important). Forget the fancy labels. I get mine from the bulk coffee section at Wholesome Choice (a general supermarket that started as iranian-focused)

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    If you feel like taking the chance, go for a lighter roast or a breakfast blend. Something unapologetically nutty and smooth. Drip coffee is not usually great. Pour over or French press is the easiest method for getting smooth coffee.

    It may take some experimenting to dial in the steep time that works for you, but for French press I’d recommend starting at 5 to 6 minutes before slowly pressing the grounds. Too strong or bitter? Steep for less time.

    Add half & half to taste. It softens the coffee flavour a bit and complements a nutty brew.

    Starbucks and other corporate coffee is not good. If you have a small local coffee shop that roasts their own, give them a try. A good barista can suggest a brew for you if you describe what you’re after.

    Or: Continue to not drink coffee. You’ll avoid that slight daily caffeine dependence and save some money, so I really can’t fault you at all.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I keep my grounds in a jar next to a 5 cup dripper. Yeah it's not a fancy French press or espresso maker capable of fine tuning brewing pressure and temperature but my boring sensibilities like a simple hot coffee. I'd occasionally do cold brew by mixing grounds and water in a jar overnight and filter/dilute it the next morning.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I like the press because it is versatile:

    • Coffee? Yes.
    • Mate or tea? Yes.
    • wanna add some herbs? Yes.
    • Temperature? Whatever you want.
    • How to heat water? Whatever way you want.
    • Amount? Whatever you want.
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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    First I open the McDonald's app

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I lost my sense of smell so I don't like espresso anymore. So my method nowadays:

    1. Heat water in a kettle to 90c
    2. Grind some generic beans in my rancilio rocky (sometimes I treat myself to better beans)
    3. Load the ground coffee into my upside-down aeropress with a steel filter. Fill with hot water
    4. Wait 1 minute
    5. Press the coffee into my moomin-themed mug and enjoy black
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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    At home: Put cup in machine, push button.
    At work: Good ol' drippy filter, baby.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    60 grams course ground coffee in a reusable filter, submersed in 700ml water for 24 to 30 hours in the fridge. then take out the filter, use smaller amounts and dilute to preference. works better with medium roast

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    I am learning, reading these comments, that I am a crazy coffee nerd...

    I use my 1Zpresso handgrinder (the best sub 1000€ grinder I've tried, IMHO) to grind my ultra light roast 20€ 250g frozen coffee beans, then go through ridiculous puck prep, and ultimately make the thing in my manual lever flair 58.

    I really want to get something with a smaller diameter though, because I recently tried my mother's DeLonghi machine with a 48mm diameter, and it was surprisingly good, despite the bad temperature management.

    I'm an espresso guy though, and I can only really enjoy very good medium-light or good light to very light roasts nowadays. And preparing those well is very difficult. I actually don't really recommend the flair for it, because the temp doesn't stay that consistent (and it's 58 mm).

    The most important thing with espresso is not how much your machine costs or even how nice your grinder is, though. It's 10000% your beans. I get new, different beans every week to month depending on how much coffee I'm drinking. I almost never get the same beans twice. Only specialty coffee from a select few roasters. Only 250g bags, always freeze them immediately. They are ridiculously expensive but have improved my quality of life immensely. I am a coffee nerd – worship the bean.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I'm interested in your beans and freezing process. I've never seen gradations of light roast or frozen my beans. Are you getting generally more longevity after freezing? 250g would only last 5 ish days if my wife and I are both having coffee every day.

    I will say that I'm an espresso guy when I'm in Europe and for maybe a month after, but I always end up back at plain old drip coffee because I want the volume. It does seem like that may put a limit on the quality of the cup though.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago*

    I also keep my grounds in a Mason jar.

    Usually I go for ease of ingesting caffeine as quickly as possible and use a generic single-cup coffee maker.

    1. Fill the reusable k-cup with grounds and put it into the coffee maker
    2. Fill the coffee cup with water and pour into the tank
    3. Place cup and press the power button
    4. Take the dogs outside while it's running
    5. Add a splash of sweetener and/or vanilla syrup
    6. Enjoy

    Obviously, I'm not fancy about it at all. When I do get fancy, I'll use the French press. Sometimes I'll cold brew in the French press overnight but I always forget so that's a rare treat when I do remember.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    My daily driver is a 1L French press. 40 grams of beans, ground to 800 micron's in a Kingrinder K6, with a long steep to let fines settle down to the bed, and the plunger only partially depressed to avoid disturbing the bed. Gently poured as consumed. This makes a good cup with a variety of types of beans and roast level. I mostly use locally roasted fresh coffee.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    French press extracts cafestol and it jacks serum cholesterol. You should paper filter.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I think the science needs to mature more before making causal life choices. Or maybe I'm just living on the edge with my unfiltered coffee. 😃

    Studies show that it can increase serum cholesterol, but might also have anti carcinogen and neuro protective effects. My cholesterol is checked yearly and comes back healthy each time, while I don't have the same ready screening for cancer or brain health. I think as part of a healthy lifestyle it comes out in the wash for most people, and an annual blood panel is a good thing to trust but verify.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    lol ... I got the same French Press carafe as in the photo

    I dump in four tablespoons of coffee, pour in hot boiling water, stir it with a spoon and let it steep while I make breakfast. Once steeped for several minutes, I apply the press and pour out coffee in a mug to go with breakfast ... then the rest goes into a small thermos.

    First coffee is hot and goes with my first morning meal ... on most days, second coffee goes with me to the home office during the day ... or I throw it in a backpack to take with me for a motorcycle ride in the afternoon.

    ... and yes I do get a bit of bitter grounds and grains at the end ... but I usually don't drink the last ounce of coffee, and just pour it out and rinse everything.

    The problem is the filtering ... yes you can filter it more to get the grounds out but it either takes a lot of time or effort and there is still a 50/50 chance you mess things up and you end up with grounds anyway ... or you just do a rough filtering job and put up with a bit of grounds at the end and don't drink the last bit of coffee at the bottom of the cup. It reminds me of Turkish coffee that has a ton of grounds at the end that aren't supposed to be consumed.

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    1. Put coffee and water in the brewer
    2. Press on
    3. Wait
    4. Drink
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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago
    • Size 1 v60

    • Size 2 filter paper

    • freshly ground beans

    • large coffee mug

    • put the filter in the v60 and place on top of the mug.

    • add a dash of boiling water to moisten the filter paper, discard the water

    • add 15g ground coffee, add 50ml hot water (just off the boil), wait 30 seconds, add 250ml hot water (off the boil).

    • put the v60 in the sink, and the grounds in the food waste.

    • take the mug to the desk and stare at the meeting blankly.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    40g of beans (usually medium roast) into my ariete grinder, water to the 8 cup line of the Breville, run the "gold roast" routine. I've played a little with seeing my own bloom time and pour over speed and I couldn't really tell a difference with grocery store coffee beans and tap water.

    I hate acidic coffee. My BIL imports and roasts his own beans and it seems like acid is one of the goals or something, but I just dont like it at all.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    me personally i like to put the tea in the screen-door ball thingy and pour hot (not boiling) water on it and oh shit i made tea let me try again

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